The Political Satire/Meme Thread

[HenrySwanson]

The interesting question then is why does it cause them to question their sexuality, if the attraction was based around the pure assumption of the object of desire being a woman how has it actually affected their sexuality. What if the object of desire was post-op and they had sex and the man still had not realised?

I wonder, is the answer always going to be transphobic.

Would we label users of Dil Mil, Salt and Muzmatch prejudiced for having a preference? Maybe they only become prejudiced if they outright refuse to consider the possibility of dating someone outside of that preference....

 

[Scaff]

I wonder, is the answer always going to be transphobic.

Nope.

Would we label users of Dil Mil, Salt and Muzmatch prejudiced for having a preference? Maybe they only become prejudiced if they outright refuse to consider the possibility of dating someone outside of that preference....

For using them? No.

Maybe they only become prejudiced if they outright refuse to consider the possibility of dating someone outside of that preference....

That depends on the reason for the refusal to consider it, again is it based on preference or not.

 

[HenrySwanson]

For using them? No.

This is interesting because if I Google "Asian dating app", "East Asian dating app" or "Black dating app" I'm given ads and search results for services that support that preference yet type in "White dating app" and I'm given an ad for African Cupid, a first result leading to a Black-White interracial dating site and articles saying dating apps are racist.

That depends on the reason for the refusal to consider it, again is it based on preference or not.

Would a refusal to date someone who was born a man * be considered a refusal coming from prejudice.

*I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm not aware of how trans gender individuals consider themselves before transition (i.e. would a MtF person have thought they were "born a man") which is ignorance on my part but I'm using the phrase as it would be accepted in the general usage, No offense is intended and if there's a proper way to state this then I'd use it in future.

 

[MatskiMonk]

This is interesting because if I Google "Asian dating app", "East Asian dating app" or "Black dating app" I'm given ads and search results for services that support that preference yet type in "White dating app" and I'm given an ad for African Cupid, a first result leading to a Black-White interracial dating site and articles saying dating apps are racist.

Welp, that's your google ads decided for the next 50 years then.

 

[Scaff]

This is interesting because if I Google "Asian dating app", "East Asian dating app" or "Black dating app" I'm given ads and search results for services that support that preference yet type in "White dating app" and I'm given an ad for African Cupid, a first result leading to a Black-White interracial dating site and articles saying dating apps are racist.

White people don’t need a racial prefix in a majority white nation, dating apps and sites in the UK are by default aimed at whites.

It’s the same reason white people don’t need a white history month and straight people don't need a straight pride.

Would a refusal to date someone who was born a man * be considered a refusal coming from prejudice.

*I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm not aware of how trans gender individuals consider themselves before transition (i.e. would a MtF person have thought they were "born a man") which is ignorance on my part but I'm using the phrase as it would be accepted in the general usage, No offense is intended and if there's a proper way to state this then I'd use it in future.

I'm not sure why you seem to be looking for a simple answer to a complex question.

 

[HenrySwanson]

White people don’t need a racial prefix in a majority white nation, dating apps and sites in the UK are by default aimed at whites.

It’s the same reason white people don’t need a white history month and straight people don't need a straight pride.

Whoa, whoa wait a second....

So there'd be no problem having a dating app marketed towards white people in say South Africa or India.

I'm not sure but I think I hear alarm bells ringing here.

 

[Scaff]

Whoa, whoa wait a second....

So there'd be no problem having a dating app marketed towards white people in say South Africa or India.

I'm not sure but I think I hear alarm bells ringing here.

I think the only place the alarm bells are ringing is in your own head...


...oh and cut out the strawman arguments.

 

[HenrySwanson]

I'm not sure why you seem to be looking for a simple answer to a complex question.

Sorry, that should have been:

Would a refusal to date someone because they were born a man be considered a refusal coming from prejudice.

 

[UKMikey]

Sorry, that should have been:

Would a refusal to date someone because they were born a man be considered a refusal coming from prejudice.

I guess it depends on considered by whom. If the transwoman in question is attractive as, say, Nicole Maines then the man who refuses is less ikely to gain approval on Rose Twitter.

I'm not sure why he'd be interested in stifling criticism from strangers, though, if he's so secure in his belief that what he's doing is the right thing.

 

[HenrySwanson]

I think the only place the alarm bells are ringing is in your own head...


...oh and cut out the strawman arguments.

I wonder then, what is the consensus on ethnicity filters on dating apps.

On the one hand we say no we shouldn't allow people to filter matches based on your preferred ethnicity.

Then we also say, because you're a minority you can use an app to....look for people who match your preferred ethnicity.

It just makes my head spin - aren't these other apps just one big ethnicity filter??

 

[UKMikey]

Today I learnt J-Date is racist.

Funny, when people like my mum and dad were marrying across social, religious or ethnic boundaries they faced criticism by parts of society which told them they weren't allowed to date whomever they wanted.

But when superstraights do it and people make judgments about them, let's read out the riot act. They and only they should be free from criticism.

 

[TexRex]

 

[McLaren]

All that fuss over a man who literally doesn’t give a toss about Trump anymore.

 

[Touring Mars]

Took me a minute to realise that video repeats automatically..

 

[TexRex]

Took me a minute to realise that video repeats automatically..

I think all do on the Twitter. Anyway, screaming Mark Levin surely gave it away.

 

[Scaff]

I wonder then, what is the consensus on ethnicity filters on dating apps.

On the one hand we say no we shouldn't allow people to filter matches based on your preferred ethnicity.

Then we also say, because you're a minority you can use an app to....look for people who match your preferred ethnicity.

It just makes my head spin - aren't these other apps just one big ethnicity filter??

Who does?

Who exactly does, because right now all I see is you, once again, engaged in a long-form gish-gallop!

 

[TexRex]

long-form gish-gallop

I like this.

 

[UKMikey]

The replies to this tweet and its parent are filled with the darkest Swiftian humour. For one of those folks who sounds like those who equate abortion on demand with infanticide, Gov. Ricketts alarmist stance isn't all that surprising.

 

[TexRex]

Dave Rubin is aggressively stupid.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Dave Rubin is aggressively stupid.

If he really is that dumb, that is kind of shocking, but since the video has been edited, for some reason, it is hard to know exactly what he means.

 

[TexRex]

If he really is that dumb, that is kind of shocking, but since the video has been edited, for some reason, it is hard to know exactly what he means.

"FAKE NEWS!" *REEEEEEEEEEEE*

 

[UKMikey]

Yeah, if you wanna disprove this, you really have to show us what he's really saying that isn't dumb, rather than just poisoning the well by saying it's edited. That's a bad faith argument.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Who does?

Who exactly does, because right now all I see is you, once again, engaged in a long-form gish-gallop!

Blame my laziness for not putting sources in:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/dating-apps-grindr-ethnicity-filters-1047047/
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...discrimination-grindr-tinder-algorithm-racism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/abramb...e-of-their-ethnicity-filters/?sh=74d5541d768f

As for if it being only myself who would hear alarm bells at a site for people preferring to date white people in India and South Africa there was actually a site in the States that didn't go down so well.

Today I learnt J-Date is racist.

Funny, when people like my mum and dad were marrying across social, religious or ethnic boundaries they faced criticism by parts of society which told them they weren't allowed to date whomever they wanted.

But when superstraights do it and people make judgments about them, let's read out the riot act. They and only they should be free from criticism.

I think it's more, if people find an ethnicity filter racist, they should equally find J-Date racist. They're both filtering on racial/religious preference.

 

[UKMikey]

I think it's more, if people find an ethnicity filter racist, they should equally find J-Date racist. They're both filtering on racial/religious preference.

I'm sure there are people who hate Jews who find J-Date racist. I'm sure its users don't give a **** though.

 

[TexRex]

Fauxpression is a hell of a drug.

 

[HenrySwanson]

I'm sure there are people who hate Jews who find J-Date racist. I'm sure its users don't give a **** though.

It's all about the optics. For instance take this seemingly innocuous passage from the Rolling Stone article:

Some folks of color were able to use this feature to find a friendly face on the apps, in what can be a sea of white torsos, or in the real world, in a town palpably lacking in visible diversity. Yet, in other hands, this feature amounted to little less than institutionalized racial profiling.

After changing the subjects in that first sentence, would it be acceptable to say when talking about dating apps in South Africa or Zimbabwe:

Some white folk were able to use this feature to find a friendly face on the apps, in what can be a sea of black torsos, or in the real world, in a town palpably lacking in visible diversity. Yet, in other hands, this feature amounted to little less than institutionalized racial profiling.

 

[UKMikey]

Fauxpression is a hell of a drug.

I like how every time they show Davis his forehead seems to get longer and longer.

It's all about the optics. For instance take this seemingly innocuous passage from the Rolling Stone article:

Sounds like much ado about nothing to me. People are always going to criticise these things so it sounds like nothing to get worked up about. Statuegate-in-a-teacup no. 2.

 

[TexRex]

I like how every time they show Davis his forehead seems to get longer and longer.

Mebs!

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[andrea]

 

[TexRex]