The possibility to save race progress in endurance races

[MasterFocus]

That would be nice to be able to save our progress in an Endurance race instead of using Bob as a co-driver.

As a side note, my PS3 is often open all week long with no damage yet and its been 2½ years since I first plug it onto the outlet and you hear the fan only in summer where the ambient air is wayyyyy high

 

[d3br34k5]

You are completely right PS3 isn't a machine that can handle 24 hours straight
NOT EVEN THE SLIM VERSION

This is totally incorrect.

My PS3 has been on 24/7 since I purchased it in May 2008.

F@H (Life with Playstation)

You have no idea what you're talking about and using caps lock doesn't make you any more credible.

 

[cobraagent90]

This is totally incorrect.

My PS3 has been on 24/7 since I purchased it in May 2008.

F@H (Life with Playstation)

You have no idea what you're talking about and using caps lock doesn't make you any more credible.

I bet I do. Life with Playstation is nothing like GT5. I'm sure PS3 can handle 24hours straight (once or twice) BUT there is not only one endurance race in the game. Then I do not want to tire my lovely PS3 because I cant afford another one. Lastly I'm 14, I have school and incredibly annoying parents so I cant stay 24 hours in front of a TV

Note my friend: Some PS3s actually break down...

 

[Nicksfix]

Absolutely - no doubts here.

 

[chepe371]

I'm not down with saving progress in the middle of an endurance race, what's the point of endurance if you do 2 laps a day for 100 days.

Better to have a switchable driver, go from A-spec to B-spec (according to a race plan, i.e. after 40 laps switch driver for 50 laps,switch driver again) it will add a strategic aspect to the endurance races.

I think if they have save points in endurance races, it will somehow defeat the purpose, and make it just a really long race.
Either way there's always Pause.

 

[cobraagent90]

I'm not down with saving progress in the middle of an endurance race, what's the point of endurance if you do 2 laps a day for 100 days.

Better to have a switchable driver, go from A-spec to B-spec (according to a race plan, i.e. after 40 laps switch driver for 50 laps,switch driver again) it will add a strategic aspect to the endurance races.

I think if they have save points in endurance races, it will somehow defeat the purpose, and make it just a really long race.
Either way there's always Pause.

You got a point. I think the save points should be placed every 1 or 2 hours

 

[Bogie 19th]

As an option, yes, I would love that ability. I would take advantage of it for sure. I want to run those enduros, but I can't sit long enough to complete them in one sitting. With 50 hours a week at work, a wife, son, dog, cat, friends, family, golf, and biking, I would never be able to do it.

 

[Exorcet]

Either way there's always Pause.

Pause

Pro
Can stop/continue at any time


Con
Your system is still on
You're increasing your electric bill

Save

Pro
Can stop/continue at any time

Con
...

What's difference, except [potentially] damaging your system and wasting money? Based on your reasoning against save points, you should be against pause. Don't go against something just because it's new.

 

[chepe371]

True, but the only Con is one which might redefine the whole race, it might as well be called segment race or something, what are you enduring?

It's a test of will if you will, push you to the point of discomfort and further, its about stamina, might sound purist, but i think ill just get a fan behind the system.

Nothing to do with new.

 

[nikhil]

I'm not down with saving progress in the middle of an endurance race, what's the point of endurance if you do 2 laps a day for 100 days.

Better to have a switchable driver, go from A-spec to B-spec (according to a race plan, i.e. after 40 laps switch driver for 50 laps,switch driver again) it will add a strategic aspect to the endurance races.

I think if they have save points in endurance races, it will somehow defeat the purpose, and make it just a really long race.
Either way there's always Pause.

But if you don't want to save and pause, you don't have to. For the people who have other things to do in a day besides play a 24 hour endurance race it would be a welcome feature. For the people that want to play gt5 24 hours straight, well they can still do that too. If it makes the game more accessible to more people while still retaining what the core fanbase likes, I don't see what's wrong with it.

 

[Gumuz]

True, but the only Con is one which might redefine the whole race, it might as well be called segment race or something, what are you enduring?

It's a test of will if you will, push you to the point of discomfort and further, its about stamina, might sound purist, but i think ill just get a fan behind the system.

Nothing to do with new.

Well not everyone wants to feel any discomfort while playing a GAME. Also what is to anyone else if you sit the whole race without saving or save, take a rest and then continue? I notice some people sound almost pissed off at others because they used B-spec, the same would happen with if there was a save feature, why don't some of you just mind your own business and let those who want to use B-spec continue, its not going to hurt you and nor will it mean anything more or anything less.

 

[Northstar]

Either way there's always Pause.

I love this argument.

Saving in the middle of a race or using B-Spec= cheating and unrealistic

Stopping time for a few hours= realistic and not cheating

Really, there is no way to have a realistic 24hour race while only requiring one player. The only way to do it without saving, pausing or using B-Spec would be co-op which would be hard considering I don't expect someone else to schedule their life around me so I can beat a game.

 

[cobraagent90]

How about a 24h ONLINE endurance race?

 

[SETWAVE]

I love this argument.

Saving in the middle of a race or using B-Spec= cheating and unrealistic

Stopping time for a few hours= realistic and not cheating

Really, there is no way to have a realistic 24hour race while only requiring one player. The only way to do it without saving, pausing or using B-Spec would be co-op which would be hard considering I don't expect someone else to schedule their life around me so I can beat a game.

pausing a race is more of a challenge than saving it because when pausing you cant keep retrying if you make a mistake, retrying from a save point mid race is cheating in my view.
thats why i think saves are good but limited in number and are only loadable once.

 

[Northstar]

pausing a race is more of a challenge than saving it because when pausing you cant keep retrying if you make a mistake, retrying from a save point mid race is cheating in my view.
thats why i think saves are good but limited in number and are only loadable once.

Still, neither are realistic and also aren't cheating. It get's annoying how people act like the only way to do something is the way they do it and if they don't do it that way they are cheaters.

In my opinion the only way to cheat is if you are over aggressive and spin cars out or use a cheat device(which won't be a problem in GT5 as there aren't any for PS3).

 

[Angerdx]

You are completely right PS3 isn't a machine that can handle 24 hours straight
NOT EVEN THE SLIM VERSION

Well mine is on 24/7 365 except for updates and the occasional reboot after installs, so seems to me it´s damn reliable as it´s been going like that since early 2008.

As for saves sure why not aslong as it´s optional, but would love if you could co-op endurance races with 2-4 other players via online.

 

[Lucas]

Bad idea. You either do it the way crazy people do it (24 hours straight) or you pause it like normal people do it. OR you do it B-Spec, like people who love their PS2s do it (myself).

It's not realistic to save the game during a race, it would be exactly like rewind, but more of a pain in the 🤬.

 

[Perkel]

hey i just don't get it.. why do you even want to start a 24h race if you want to do this partialy.

as i said just skip it.

24h is not just a race, try it for real.


ONLINE CO-OP would be great but you can't wake somebody by headset....

 

[socomkiller59]

This is totally incorrect.

My PS3 has been on 24/7 since I purchased it in May 2008.

F@H (Life with Playstation)

Ok- but still, there are games out there that use up more power than folding home does. A game like GT5 could very well be using a higher source of power than..... idk, Little Big Planet does. The more data accessed a second, the more power its going to use. Am I wrong?

 

[d3br34k5]

Folding@Home greatly stresses the PS3's CPU but doesn't really use the GPU, aside from visualizing the actual protien folding process. About 115W is used when Folding. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3 Here's a link that talks about folding and mentions the stresses it has on the PS3.

Leaving GT5 turned on and 'racing' definitely takes more juice as the GPU and CPU would be getting used, likely to their maximums.

If a PS3 was to die from being on 24/7, which isn't likely, GT5 would bring that death about much more quickly than F@H would.

So no, you're right.

 

[Lain]

A big issue with people on these forums is that they seem to think everyone ought to play Gran Turismo the same way that they play it.

Who cares if you think 24-hour races are best experienced in one sitting? There are people who simply can't do that, but who would still like to be able to complete GT5.

And, really, there's not a whole lot of difference between pausing it and resuming it later than saving it and resuming it later. The few differences there are make saving the preferable course of action. What if there are other members of the household who'd like to use the PS3 while you're not actively using it? What'll leaving GT5 running for extended periods of time do to your PS3? Or to your electric bill?!

If you think it's more fun to do a 24-hr enduro in 24 hours, great. Have fun with that. But GT5 has to accommodate other players, too.

 

[MoreTorque]

A big issue with people on these forums is that they seem to think everyone ought to play Gran Turismo the same way that they play it.

Who cares if you think 24-hour races are best experienced in one sitting? There are people who simply can't do that, but who would still like to be able to complete GT5.

And, really, there's not a whole lot of difference between pausing it and resuming it later than saving it and resuming it later. The few differences there are make saving the preferable course of action. What if there are other members of the household who'd like to use the PS3 while you're not actively using it? What'll leaving GT5 running for extended periods of time do to your PS3? Or to your electric bill?!

If you think it's more fun to do a 24-hr enduro in 24 hours, great. Have fun with that. But GT5 has to accommodate other players, too.

Yeah I agree. If a save feature was put in people could still do it in one sitting if they wanted. I would imagine if there was one it would be underneath the pit options, and when you load the save it would just resume after your pit stop while you leave the pits.

People say it's unrealistic to save midway through the race, but then again is it really realistic to do an enitre 24 hour endurance race by yourself in one go? Le Mans drivers don't do it in real life. As for the cheating side if you have no intention of exploiting the save feature why is it any of your concern what other people do? Games like GT need to accommodate for everyone. Not everyone has the time to do the long endurance races even though they want to.

To be honest I never done any of the long endurance races in GT4, because they were too time consuming, and I didn't really like the idea of leaving my PS2 on for extended periods of time.

 

[SETWAVE]

But GT5 has to accommodate other players, too.

ah, but does it?
GT5 doesn't have to let everyone complete the game 100% in an easy way if it doesn't want to.
anyway i will say that i dont drive endurance races all the way through i let b-spec do most of the work, which is a different challenge. but if gt5 forced me to drive it all then single use limited saves need to come in. but..
i like the idea of online co-op drivers to get the race done. i see it like a real team that players can sign up for before hand, that team might have say 4 people and will last as a logged team online for 7 days. then during that time any of the players can login and race that car during the endurance race, obviously not at the same time. when one player has had enough driving then they pit and select the change driver option, this saves the current game position online, ready for another team player to take over and carry on from the pitstop. this can keep going as long as the team is active which as i say could be for 7 days, then it gets disbanded whether or not the race has been completed.
reason for 7 days is thats an acceptable maximum as a challenge to get the 24 hours of racing completed in.
i say the team disbands this would be for players using a random auto team generator for all those online wishing to do an endurance race. those with friends creating the team could stay as a team for other races/events but the 7 day limit for completion would still apply.
thats how i can imagine it. anything else?
teams could actually be a big part of GT5 that we dont know about, that could be exciting. with perhaps even management roles aswell. i can certainly envisage online team championship series running over a season like in real life.

 

[cobraagent90]

Folding@Home greatly stresses the PS3's CPU but doesn't really use the GPU, aside from visualizing the actual protien folding process. About 115W is used when Folding. http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3 Here's a link that talks about folding and mentions the stresses it has on the PS3.

Leaving GT5 turned on and 'racing' definitely takes more juice as the GPU and CPU would be getting used, likely to their maximums.

If a PS3 was to die from being on 24/7, which isn't likely, GT5 would bring that death about much more quickly than F@H would.

So no, you're right.

Look,you are right but there is a failure rate in PS3s.Surely not as much as the XBOX but there is. Some PS3s dont work at all, others break down after a period of time and others never break(like yours) 💡

This is taken from http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf :

Synopsis: SquareTrade analyzed failure rates for over 16,000 new game consoles covered by SquareTrade Care Plans and found that the Wii experienced one-fourth of the common failures that the other systems have.
Highlights of the study include:
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Looking at the first 2 years of ownership, 2.7% of Wii owners reported a system failure to SquareTrade, compared with 10.0% of PlayStation 3 owners, and 23.7% for Xbox 360 owners.
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Excluding “Red Ring of Death” failures, which are covered by Microsoft’s 3-year warranty, 11.7% of Xbox 360 owners reported a failure.
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While the RROD problem continued to be the major issue for Xbox 360s purchased through 2008, early indications point to the problem abating in 2009.
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The most common types of problems seen with the PS3 and Xbox 360 were disc read errors and output issues. The Wii had more power and remote control issues than the other 2 systems

 

[McLaren]

I don't know why they don't just do what 24 Hours LeMans did. You come in, pit, save, and then either keep racing or quit & turn off the console.

That was such a great game.

 

[cobraagent90]

I don't know why they don't just do what 24 Hours LeMans did. You come in, pit, save, and then either keep racing or quit & turn off the console.

That was such a great game.

Exactly what we all want

 

[yeti]

It's an ok idea to be able to save in the middle of a endurance race. Now if you can run other races and return to the endurance race that makes it a great idea. If saving and endurance race means powering off the system and when you return the only race available you can partake in is the very same endurance race you previously saved, then nah it's a bad idea and it should be left as is.

Actually - I think that once you are in an endurance race - then that is all you can do - in GT mode of course - if you want to do other races - then online/arcade would still be available.

C.

 

[Tnerb]

PD needs to be realistic. At the end of the day people are going to pause anyways, so why not let us turn off the PS3 and save some power. Anyways, no real driver could get close to driving for 24 hours!

 

[Daddybird]

Not having a safe function in the endurance races in previous GT's was always as retarded as eating glass with your ass.

 

[I-Runner]

two years ago i did with other players two 24h in ASPEC changing
driver every two hours !
so If you are in team and you are enogh crazy ... make a 24h in team,
is very fun !!! (try and say)
But if you are alone or you're playing your GTsave!!
you MUST have the possibility to divide the race in two or more
times ...

I-R