The Real Cuba.

[vladimir]

80% of the population of honduras supposedly lives in absolute oder moderate poverty. how many cars and computers do they have in their families?

free healthcare won't help anyone if it is rubbish. it should not only be mandatory, it should also be working. and according to the WHO, which does nothing all day long but investigating into such matters, it is working in cuba. it states that the people in cuba are more healthy than those in all other latin american nations, despite some of them being a lot more developed. do you want to tell me that you have done more research and now better!?

and please stop suggesting i believed that tarmac or television was unheard of in third world countries, thats just childish...

here is another report from someone who visited cuba:
http://mikebaird.com/Cuba_2000/

seems unbiased to me since he describes both sides, the few positive ones as well as the many negative ones.

 

[vladimir]

argh, wrong button, sorry.

 

[OZZYGT]

It just took me 1 second to realize what kind of person he was on that link.

Just look at the picture up top. Now, I know what i'm expecting out of him.

Speaking on the immigration percentages, I looked at your stats and they can be as correct as they can get. But, seeing that Cuba is in the top 3 or 4 on that list, makes me think that the country is indeed the poorest one, know why?

Because people from every country other than Cuba in THAT list, can be allowed to come to the U.S.A. with a Tourist Visa, Student Visa, working Visa, and other type of permission as well. Cubans on the other hand, are put behind bars if they attempt to ask permission to leave the country (unless you're a professional and you have reasons to come back). They HAVE to get here by crossing the strech between Cuba and Florida, there's no way they can make it here by plane like many other ones.
Mexicans, have it easier...they are next to this country, Salvadorians AND Hondurans I believe they have a working permit so they can stay here legally, and as far as non-Latin American countries, the U.S. have different types of laws for them, which are usually less-harsh.

BTW, my mother works as a paralegal on an Immigration Attorney's Office.

The problem with you is, you look at some stats and BAM! you think you know how a country's economical state is. And that's not they way to do it, as Diego (the one with the ugly "RebRuM" name ) said before, your stats are wrong because they don't reflect what is really happening in that country.

I have personally lived in South America (Argentina) for like 2+ years and I met PLENTY of people who were very lefty minded, my best friend for instance. He was one of the people who told me that Castro's goverment was hidding the other face of the country to foreigners. And he witnessed that when he went down there.
And not only him, but a handful of people as well. My point is, there's a lot more to it than just stats. You have to look at many other perspectives and then you can make out a conclusion. That's all; but hey, if you're reluctant to see it that way, then that's your prerogative.





Ciao!

 

[Diego440]

hmm... I thought you were just a wop, Ozzy... now I have to confess I have a different, more positive notion about you, having lived in different countries usually improves your perspectives about the world and how everything works.


Now if you'd only lose the "ciao" at the end of your posts....

 

[OZZYGT]

Nobody takes that Italian bit out of me Diego

I'll PM you to tell you what it really means to us.




Ciao!

 

[vladimir]

since when is ignorance cool?

i'll now do the same ozzy, i won't read any further than the first sentence of yours:

why would this guy, if he was what you suggest he is, call cuba a police state and critize almost everything there is about cuba?

judging a text by some picture at the beginning is nothing but ignorant and stupid and makes it very obvious that you are extremely prejudiced.

 

[OZZYGT]

since when is ignorance cool?

i'll now do the same ozzy, i won't read any further than the first sentence of yours:

why would this guy, if he was what you suggest he is, call cuba a police state and critize almost everything there is about cuba?

judging a text by some picture at the beginning is nothing but ignorant and stupid and makes it very obvious that you are extremely prejudiced.

NO. I did read your article buddy, and I got what i was expecting, like I told you. People like that have to learn they difference between what they think about a particular way of running a country and what reality really is.



Ciao!

 

[vladimir]

so you're trying to tell me that the WHO is not aware of the fact that castro lies and thus reports false numbers?

 

[Omnis]

Just thought I'd pop in and remind people that reality is subjective.

 

[ledhed]

Oh hardy har har, lets ignore his point based on semantics! What fun.
Perhaps I should have phrased that better: I see no reason as to why they should be making any more money than they are, when they are pretty much in the upper levels when it come to countries to the south of Florida.
South of Texas. And yes, but I'm surprised that I need to post all of the countries that had stakes and colonies in South America and the surrouding areas.
So is not realising that the Cold War ended over 15 years ago, and that a country would have a hard time getting aid from a country that doesn't exist anymore. Not to mention assuming that Cuba should be able to have a great economy after 15 years of not having any countries other than mostly even worse off countries to trade with.
I truthfully fail to see the relevance of that question, as the only non-biased facts that have been posted in this thread were posted by vladimir, but are apparently irrelavent as "80% of statistics are wrong."

So, the United States is a Latin American country?

Si senor Muchchas Gracisias .