The Rolex Sports Car Series /Help Plan Season 2!/

Hey could someone put up a Nissan r92 to share? I don't have one, and need to snap a picture for the season two thread!

Thanks!
 
I will be gone all week this week do to my family camping and I will be back this weekend I will keep up with my phone
 
I am starting a DP test @ Daytona. I will be on Grand-Am.com to check lap times as we complete them. We can test the other stuff too, but I am determined to make the DP class as close as possible to the actual series times. The test will be in my lounge.
 
cnd01
I am starting a DP test @ Daytona. I will be on Grand-Am.com to check lap times as we complete them. We can test the other stuff too, but I am determined to make the DP class as close as possible to the actual series times. The test will be in my lounge.
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Sorry I had to leave. I tried to get one of my friends to sit in the room and wait for you. In other new we might have a new driver from the nationwide series
 
My lounge is open for testing now. I am not necessarily just testing the cars on polarbear's list. All of these cars are using their respective stock suspension geometry.

First laps Minolta Toyota. 1.40.410. 4/10ths of a second off of the track record set in 2011. I am using 500 bhp 1000 kg. The Toyota displays its muscle on the high banks of the NASCAR portion of the track. It was about 3 mph faster at the start/finish line than the Sauber.

First laps Sauber C89. 1.40.626. 500 bhp 1000 kg. A little slower because the Minolta is a 6 speed and the Sauber is a 5 speed. Through the infield the Sauber displays superior handling. It navigates turn one perfectly with great stability throughout the infield.

First laps Nissan R89C. 1.40.687. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Same pace as the Sauber through the infield. It lacks the top end speed necessary for better lap times. 2 mph slower at the line than the Sauber. It takes the chicane the smoothest and fastest.

First laps Mazda 787b. 1.39.947. 1.5/10ths below the track record. 500 bhp 1000 kg. On pace with the Sauber throughout the track. It's rotary power plant cranks out the 2 mph faster than the Toyota. It handles the infield with grace. It is the easiest to drive and the fastest.

First laps Jaguar XJR-9. 1.41.012. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Average speed. Same as the Sauber at the line. Sluggish through the chicane and the infield. It has speed, just not very much.
 
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cnd01
My lounge is open for testing now. I am not necessarily just testing the cars on polarbear's list. All of these cars are using their respective stock suspension geometry.

First laps Minolta Toyota. 1.40.410. 4/10ths of a second off of the track record set in 2011. I am using 500 bhp 1000 kg. The Toyota displays its muscle on the high banks of the NASCAR portion of the track. It was about 3 mph faster at the start/finish line than the Sauber.

First laps Sauber C89. 1.40.626. 500 bhp 1000 kg. A little slower because the Minolta is a 6 speed and the Sauber is a 5 speed. Through the infield the Sauber displays superior handling. It navigates turn one perfectly with great stability throughout the infield.

First laps Nissan R89C. 1.40.687. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Same pace as the Sauber through the infield. It lacks the top end speed necessary for better lap times. 2 mph slower at the line than the Sauber. It takes the chicane the smoothest and fastest.

First laps Mazda 787b. 1.39.947. 1.5/10ths below the track record. 500 bhp 1000 kg. On pace with the Sauber throughout the track. It's rotary power plant cranks out the 2 mph faster than the Toyota. It handles the infield with grace. It is the easiest to drive and the fastest.

First laps Jaguar XJR-9. 1.41.012. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Average speed. Same as the Sauber at the line. Sluggish through the chicane and the infield. It has speed, just not very much.
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Did you have setups on the cars?
 
cnd01
My lounge is open for testing now. I am not necessarily just testing the cars on polarbear's list. All of these cars are using their respective stock suspension geometry.

First laps Minolta Toyota. 1.40.410. 4/10ths of a second off of the track record set in 2011. I am using 500 bhp 1000 kg. The Toyota displays its muscle on the high banks of the NASCAR portion of the track. It was about 3 mph faster at the start/finish line than the Sauber.

First laps Sauber C89. 1.40.626. 500 bhp 1000 kg. A little slower because the Minolta is a 6 speed and the Sauber is a 5 speed. Through the infield the Sauber displays superior handling. It navigates turn one perfectly with great stability throughout the infield.

First laps Nissan R89C. 1.40.687. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Same pace as the Sauber through the infield. It lacks the top end speed necessary for better lap times. 2 mph slower at the line than the Sauber. It takes the chicane the smoothest and fastest.

First laps Mazda 787b. 1.39.947. 1.5/10ths below the track record. 500 bhp 1000 kg. On pace with the Sauber throughout the track. It's rotary power plant cranks out the 2 mph faster than the Toyota. It handles the infield with grace. It is the easiest to drive and the fastest.

First laps Jaguar XJR-9. 1.41.012. 500 bhp 1000 kg. Average speed. Same as the Sauber at the line. Sluggish through the chicane and the infield. It has speed, just not very much.
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Those are all really fast speed and does anyone know where I can find a 787B for the DP class
 
cnd01
No just the transmission. I think I can get 1 second off of each car which would have each car break the current DP track record at daytona.
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Alright, so shall we slow them down a little?
 
Tez_SP17
run them at 1032kg perhaps?
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+1 that is my suggestion. Next test will have the Mazda 787b at 1032 kg. The Minolta and Sauber will have 1025 kg. The Nissan R89C will have 1020 kg. The Jag will have 1015 kg. I hope this makes the cars more even.
 
Ok I think an ITCC test is going to start soon. Post the times up here. I am interested in what tuned cars can get at 500 bhp 1000 kg or whatever specs you use.
 
No, leave them as is. The track record is from the 2011 season, but the new cars are probably just as fast, if not faster (Daytona was their 1st race with the new machines, so you can't figure they'd be on top of the cars already). The 787B won't match the others with a tune, unless you're really good. The Sauber is the fastest, because it's the easiest to handle. But it can be said that the Nissan and Toyota can be made faster. I don't know if he's using stock settings or full downforce, but one lap doesn't equate to what the cars are going to be doing over the race. With the race pace in mind 1:41's and 42's around Daytona will be what these cars get.
 
freshseth83
No, leave them as is. The track record is from the 2011 season, but the new cars are probably just as fast, if not faster (Daytona was their 1st race with the new machines, so you can't figure they'd be on top of the cars already). The 787B won't match the others with a tune, unless you're really good. The Sauber is the fastest, because it's the easiest to handle. But it can be said that the Nissan and Toyota can be made faster. I don't know if he's using stock settings or full downforce, but one lap doesn't equate to what the cars are going to be doing over the race. With the race pace in mind 1:41's and 42's around Daytona will be what these cars get.
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Only thing I changed was the tranny settings. The average fastest lap in the race 2 years ago when the track record was set was 1.41.5, so that makes each car faster than the average fastest lap untuned. I ran 2 tire stints with each car. Downforce was default. I reset everything before I ran it because some of those cars I had tuned and some I hadn't. Race pace tends to be about 0.5-2.0 seconds off of qualifying depending on driver and tire wear. My pace fell between 1.5-2.0 seconds by the end of the tire run. I think each car can easily drop 1 second per lap. That means the Jag can beat the current track record if tuned properly. If the added weight makes the cars add too much time then I will take it back off.
 
Just hopped in the R89C. Same specs as cnd. Got a 1:39.490 in the first three laps. Car feels good stock. I think it can easily be tuned into the 38's.

Gonna pull out the Sauber next and see what she can do. Agree with Seth as far as actual race pace goes.

Oh, and the tranny was stock on my run. Gears were good for this track. But for personal taste I would have tuned it.
 
Just a heads up, I'm doing 1:40.556 in the Jag XJR-9. I've set everything to stock and am runnning with the bhp and weight at 500 bhp and 1000kg. I didn't take the first corner as well as I have been, so...
 
This may be just me, but don't you think we should just stick to the cars we have picked out? I mean, if one isn't working out, then change it, but why test 6, when we only need 3? And had them picked out?
 
polarbear345
This may be just me, but don't you think we should just stick to the cars we have picked out? I mean, if one isn't working out, then change it, but why test 6, when we only need 3? And had them picked out?
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I am just providing data relevant or irrelevant. I like the three cars we selected because as of right now they are the closest on my speed chart. I don't have the R92 so I am assuming the R89C si an adequate replacement.
 
Sauber checking in at 1:39.224. Its just faster in the straights. A litle harder to control for my style of driving. Def. keeps you on your toes. Again, easy 38's if you throw a tune on it.
 
Yeah, my new 1:40.318 in the Jag is possible for 39's too, without tuning it to my liking. I tend to have TC off, but I know a lot of you run it on LMP/Prototypes. I'm just testing the Jag because its a Group C, and gives a staple of what to expect.... AND because its British. :D
 
The lap record being in the 1:41's was during a race. In qualifying trim we'll get below that, but do we have to be spot-on for times just because it's the name of the series? I think sticking with 500hp/1000kg is just fine. Leave the fast cars at that and set the others to meet what they can achieve (like the JAG). I prefer we have more than 3 cars. 4 at least, so it gives variety and it's not the same car over and over. If we had 4 cars, maybe not everyone would want to use the Sauber. So maybe 2 Saubers, 2 Nissans, 1 Toyota, 1 Mazda or Jag. Depending on the interest in the DP class.
 
Tez_SP17
Yeah, my new 1:40.318 in the Jag is possible for 39's too, without tuning it to my liking. I tend to have TC off, but I know a lot of you run it on LMP/Prototypes. I'm just testing the Jag because its a Group C, and gives a staple of what to expect.... AND because its British. :D
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In real life, the DPs have no TC
 
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