The Rolex Sports Car Series /Help Plan Season 2!/

At the end of the night I only got to test the Nissan and Sauber. I think they are pretty even at this point. IMO the Nissan is faster in the turns and the Sauber is faster in the straights. Even trade if you ask me. 👍

About the TCS. I think its all preference. Half the people say it will slow you down and the other half say it made them faster. I tend to not run TCS and just use the LSD to help me keep the power to the ground. Of course throttle control is a big help too...along with pedals. In my DS3 days I ran at least TCS on 1 for any race cars.
 
FlyinHawaiian77
At the end of the night I only got to test the Nissan and Sauber. I think they are pretty even at this point. IMO the Nissan is faster in the turns and the Sauber is faster in the straights. Even trade if you ask me. 👍
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Sounds solid! Now let's get this Minolta into that equation! If it goes to plan, it'll be on either of the two sides, or in the middle.

And then the monster....

SPECING THE GT CARS!!! AHHHHHH

Just kidding, it shouldn't be too too hard... Or maybe....
 
I would like to help GT testing. I own every car that is up for evaluation and to the real life specs which I posted on page 123 of this forum.
 
+1.

Since people are commenting on how well the ITCC was balanced, and you guys seem to be doing similar things, I might actually be able to help.
 
I've been testing the Chevy Camaro (450 bhp / 1318kg), R8 5.2 (450 bhp / 1313kg) and 458 Italia (500 bhp / 1270kg) on a stint at Grand Valley Speedway with all following a set suspension and transmission setting. Parts are given if the car doesn't match spec, up until they meet or slightly exceed the bhp limit they're being tested at. All car have clutch/flywheel/LSD/CTD parts, though LSD and Torque Diff are kept stock.

So far, the Ferrari is a second quicker than the other two, though all three cars last 7-8 laps around the track on their tyres, from outlap to inlap. In the Audi's case, thus far the slowest, it had normal front tyre wear but awesome rear tyre wear, which if a balance is met between front and rear tyre wear when people eventually go off to tune the cars to their liking, will see the tyres lasting.... mmmm.... 10 laps perhaps, give or take. I'll be testing the Viper ACR now, and I'll edit a brief summary of what I'm noticing.

I've got a slightly more detailed feedback on the cars on the Skype chat, if people are interested to see what I've had to say on the cars thus far and want me to copy/paste what I've written.

Ok so the Viper (500 bhp / 1361kg) is currently one of the fastest cars I've tested. It's probably second only to the Ferrari by a few tenths around Grand Valley Speedway, but not by much, and if you give the weight some consideration that's quick! Tyre wear on the front is horrible though, 6 laps, but the rear tyre wear seems pretty well at about 10 laps (considering I pitted with a bit less that halfway worn on lap 7). Given this, the car will probably need a diet of around 41-61 kg, (1300 - 1320 kg) and maybe a power of 460-480 bhp. However, that's not even considering the other cars left to test yet.
 
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Rear tires hardly go off at the pace of the other GT cars on those Audi's. The fronts are about the same. I used a 10/90 or 20/80 torque split on it for the races, and ran 1.5 camber angle.
 
I noticed that too, but strangely, look at the edit I made on the Viper. Essentially, its a faster, less tyre efficient Audi.
 
I ran a quick offline test this morning. Ferrari is .3 seconds faster than viper and mazda. Everything else is a full seconds slower than the Ferrari. Camaro and Audi are just about dead even on lap times. The Porsche(Ruf) is within a tenth faster than those 2. The Corvette was the slowest. I could not make a consistent lap with it. It is faster, I just couldn't drive. I went to Laguna Seca. The GT times were fairly consistent with the lap times turned in the real life GT class at Laguna Seca except that Ferrari was below the track record almost a half second.
 
freshseth83
The Viper could go with the specs of the Audi, with about 15hp more IMO.
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The Viper could do with more bhp? Oh wait... 465 bhp and 1281 - 1313 kg? Depending on what R8 we're talking here. I'm assuming since you promoted the V10 you're talking about that one.

If we could somehow work on a balance of sorts with the cars in ALL respects, not just times but tyre wear, consistency of times, and fuel depletion also...*coughcoughcough* sorry. :D

I just think if more than just times were considered and regulated, then the races may be closer. I see testing as a way to highlight each car's potential, and giving room for trying to achieve/surpass it.

I know you're going to roll your eyes and say "we know, Storm..." but I do want to stress this:

This isn't ITCC; pitstops aren't mandatory, they're a necessity. Frequency of pitstops can dramatically affect a race here in Rolex. Fueling strategies actually play a part in how your race goes, and getting it wrong can mean disaster, unless luck smiles on your side (Mel @ Indy). Not disputing you aren't considering it, but I just feel its in the back of people's minds, hat with ITCC going through testing and those factorsnot really playing as big of a part, and its kinda important feedback to share.
 
That is definitely in consideration. I almost had a fuel disaster at Le Mans. This kind of stuff takes time. I wouldn't worry about tire wear until we get the cars running fairly even times. Once we get there, then we will worry about the fuel and tires. Plus with caution flags, that helps tire wear and strategy.
 
cnd01
That is definitely in consideration. I almost had a fuel disaster at Le Mans. This kind of stuff takes time. I wouldn't worry about tire wear until we get the cars running fairly even times. Once we get there, then we will worry about the fuel and tires. Plus with caution flags, that helps tire wear and strategy.
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Taking the 'one step at a time' approach. Can't argue with that.
 
Right, so, I'm thinking that we could give the Ferrari less power, and allow it to sip fuel/wear tires better? If a car's fast, then it wears its tires/fuel much quicker.
 
MrMelancholy15
Right, so, I'm thinking that we could give the Ferrari less power, and allow it to sip fuel/wear tires better? If a car's fast, then it wears its tires/fuel much quicker.
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It will have to because at real life specs the Ferrari is 0.3 seconds faster than the closest competition.
 
MrMelancholy15
Right, so, I'm thinking that we could give the Ferrari less power, and allow it to sip fuel/wear tires better? If a car's fast, then it wears its tires/fuel much quicker.
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Possibly, tyre wear could be a weight issue aswell though. I mean, if I were to tune the Viper and had to keep it at 1361 kg I'd be pushing more weight back anyway. With the Audi it'd be different, I'd push the TQ Diff back, add a bit of weight, and then push the ballast to the back.

Anyway, I'm not testing the cars like this yet, nor am I maximising the performance it its given specs, I'm just seeing the strengths and weaknesses of the cars at a base level. I think that kind of thing is up to the people who eventually choose and drive it. We have pre-season to check see if things are somewhat balanced after personal touches have been made.
 
cnd01
Winning look at this. http://www.grand-am.com/Standings/Rolex/team.aspx?ecid=180&scid=3 Look at the GT standings.
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Tez_SP17
Possibly, tyre wear could be a weight issue aswell though. I mean, if I were to tune the Viper and had to keep it at 1361 kg I'd be pushing more weight back anyway. With the Audi it'd be different, I'd push the TQ Diff back, add a bit of weight, and then push the ballast to the back.

Anyway, I'm not testing the cars like this yet, nor am I maximising the performance it its given specs, I'm just seeing the strengths and weaknesses of the cars at a base level. I think that kind of thing is up to the people who eventually choose and drive it. We have pre-season to check see if things are somewhat balanced after personal touches have been made.
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Hahah, yeah... preseason has nothing to do with sorting out the passing rules etc... It's all about balancing the cars. (compare that idea, with the ITCC idea.)

Also, cnd, I know, but, they were so bad at the start of the year...
 
MrMelancholy15
Hahah, yeah... preseason has nothing to do with sorting out the passing rules etc... It's all about balancing the cars. (compare that idea, with the ITCC idea.)

Also, cnd, I know, but, they were so bad at the start of the year...
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There was a Ferrari on the front row in the 24 @ Daytona. I attended the race, and the Ferrari teams were competitive throughout the event. AIM Autosport had an electrical problem approx. 10 hours into the race. That put them several laps down.
 
Finally tested some of the cars today. I didn't like C9 as much as I thought I would. I, of course, did my fastest laps with the R92CP and the Minolta. Slowest lap was with the Jaguar. I also had lap times in the same range of the Minolta and R92CP with the 905. I have yet to test the 787B though.
 
I am getting off of work at 1 central today. I would like to have a test. This could be a pre-test for the big test tomorrow.
 
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