The Rolex Sports Car Series- Season 2! Finished! Thanks Everyone!

[cnd01]

Best day in a while. My dad comes home from work with a G27. He said that he was telling his coworkers about me racing, and one of his coworkers does rfactor, and he had upgraded from the G27 and he just gave it to my dad. Online trying it out now.

 

[polarbear345]

Best day in a while. My dad comes home from work with a G27. He said that he was telling his coworkers about me racing, and one of his coworkers does rfactor, and he had upgraded from the G27 and he just gave it to my dad. Online trying it out now.

Nice!!! Join the g27 club!!!

 

[FlyinHawaiian77]

We could do this.

At start of race countdown, DP pull off to the side.
GT will go one lap around the track and pull up behind DP.
DP will go around track with GT following. Starting the official pace.

This keeps the field bunched up before the start and gives GT a one lap advantage. DP will obviuosly make the lap up. This would work in the shorter enduros. This Daytona enduro we are doing I dont think will matter much.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

We could do this.

At start of race countdown, DP pull off to the side.
GT will go one lap around the track and pull up behind DP.
DP will go around track with GT following. Starting the official pace.

This keeps the field bunched up before the start and gives GT a one lap advantage. DP will obviuosly make the lap up. This would work in the shorter enduros. This Daytona enduro we are doing I dont think will matter much.

Since when were we discussing starting procedures?

 

[polarbear345]

Since when were we discussing starting procedures?

We haven't been...

And guys, bad bad news... I may not be able to make this saturday... I may still be in chicago. I've been under the impression we were driving home Saturday, but now it's Sunday... And I don't think I can race from a hotel room....

 

[FlyinHawaiian77]

I read Tez's comment wrong. He said something about finishing points. I thought he was talking about finishing points of the race. Not actual points for the scoring system. Disregard my whole statment then.

Is it safe to unsuscribe to season 1 thread?

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

We haven't been...

And guys, bad bad news... I may not be able to make this saturday... I may still be in chicago. I've been under the impression we were driving home Saturday, but now it's Sunday... And I don't think I can race from a hotel room....

NO!! What's wrong with Hotel rooms? They offer internet... it might be better than Storm's! I heard you might be improving, though, Storm? ?


Also, FH, it was our goal to reach 3000 posts. SUCCESS! :success: would be a pretty cool smilie.

 

[Wardez]

So when your races complete the GT drivers don't usually finish?

What FH suggested is standard practice in lap based finish formats in GT5, otherwise the GT drivers don't get a real finish.

 

[freshseth83]

It is a good idea, that they can get a lap advantage so that towards the end with the counter all the way up (180 seconds) they can finish their race. I doubt they will though, because I think they'll go down too many laps to complete it, so I guess it's just a tradeoff or a preference.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

So when your races complete the GT drivers don't usually finish?

What FH suggested is standard practice in lap based finish formats in GT5, otherwise the GT drivers don't get a real finish.

Well, the series is heavily based on realism. We run many rules to the letter that Grand-Am uses. In this case, I'd just like to be "heard" when I say it's less realistic.

 

[Wardez]

Trying to be realistic with the driving flavor is one thing, but trying to sacrifice something like a whole class not technically finishing the race is a much bigger priority.

If you guys wanted to truly be realistic there's much better alternatives rather than just starting every one on the same lap as you've been doing. You can simply have the GT field go around once while the DPs are parked, then have the GTs park in their gridboxes. Then start the race as per usual. Keeps things virtually the same as before but gives the nice bonus of allowing the GT cars to finish under time. For endurance races a second or third headstarter lap may be needed.

And it's not just an idea, we've used these methods in lots of multi-class series before so not only does it make sense, it's race proven time and again.

Also, the op says, " Semi-realistic."

It is a good idea, that they can get a lap advantage so that towards the end with the counter all the way up (180 seconds) they can finish their race. I doubt they will though, because I think they'll go down too many laps to complete it, so I guess it's just a tradeoff or a preference.

Solution? Have the GT cars go around more than just one lap to get a head start of as many laps as needed. The calculations to get the cars to finish around the same time aren't hard what so ever.

 

[cnd01]

It might work. I have never seen that done before. We might need to give it a try this weekend at the first preseason race.

 

[anirishnirvana]

I take it we're going to have to create some kind of theoretical gap. Hmm 8 seconds a lap advantage for DP, theoretically 106 seconds for GT per lap. Hence, it would theoretically take approximately 13 laps for DP to lap GT. However, with the extra factor of cautions...

If this is the plan though, I reckon the GT drivers should pit on the lap where they "catch up", so that they start the race with tyres that have only done a formation lap.

 

[unrealanthony]

We ran a few laps on Saturday. I hit a 1:38.4xx around Daytona with the R92. Someone else came in and ran a 1:37.7 but he ran 900kg, so his time was void. Also, I'd prefer NOT to have Anthony as a teammate. If he really wants the Nissan that bad I'll choose another car to drive. Nothing against him, but I would rather he be on another team so the standings are closer. Judging from what he achieved last season he should be able to score a lot of points, so teaming him up with me I think would be unfair.

SETH

Seth, I don't understand why you don't want to be my teammate!, worst, I don't understand your point!!, Did I do something wrong?. You said you want a closer standings, well, why if we have the same car, this is not gonna happen? I really don't understand what is the problem, but I want to understand your point, please, can you explain me?

 

[Storm_SP17]

I think I can explain that for him.

He wants both the driver AND team points being closer. You and Seth won last season (You in DP, him in GT), so if you look at it like that and see that you are also both on the same team, he thinks that it is very possible that Team Nissan will win easily because both of you will either be first or second. To stop that happening, he would rather race against you, because he wants ALL the teams to have a possible chance of winning.

If you want a simpler explaining of the problem, look at Audi last season. Basically, he doesn't want something like THAT happening.

 

[unrealanthony]

I think I can explain that for him.

He wants both the driver AND team points being closer. You and Seth won last season (You in DP, him in GT), so if you look at it like that and see that you are also both on the same team, he thinks that it is very possible that Team Nissan will win easily because both of you will either be first or second. To stop that happening, he would rather race against you, because he wants ALL the teams to have a possible chance of winning.

If you want a simpler explaining of the problem, look at Audi last season. Basically, he doesn't want something like THAT happening.

I understand that but, I think the DP class has too many fast and good drivers: Shin - Polar - Cnd...., and the Nissan is not the best car of the class. And maybe will be good the class has a close fight at the same team, for me was not boring the fights between Prost - Senna, Hamilton - Alonso, Button - Hamilton. So, I keep wanting an explication of Seth!

 

[cnd01]

I understand that but, I think the DP class has too many fast and good drivers: Shin - Polar - Cnd...., and the Nissan is not the best car of the class. And maybe will be good the class has a close fight at the same team, for me was not boring the fights between Prost - Senna, Hamilton - Alonso, Button - Hamilton. So, I keep wanting an explication of Seth!

Not to mention Wardez as another fast driver. Seth should stay with Anthony. Shin and I are turning some good laps. I am on pace with Seth right now. Wardez and polar should be quick as well. I think that caution flags will play as much of a role as overall pace. A good strategy by the 3rd best car will beat a poor strategy by a faster car.

 

[polarbear345]

Not to mention Wardez as another fast driver. Seth should stay with Anthony. Shin and I are turning some good laps. I am on pace with Seth right now. Wardez and polar should be quick as well. I think that caution flags will play as much of a role as overall pace. A good strategy by the 3rd best car will beat a poor strategy by a faster car.

I agree with you 100%!

And do remember, the rule "you must show up to at least one pre season race, and 1 out of every 3 regular season races" applies to everyone!

I may not be able to race this weekend, it's going to be a last second call (mom and sister decided we should stay in chicago for another day -.-) so I'm going to try to race from the hotel room. The hotel may be the same one where they bolted a piece of metal over the plugs.... Or it may be the one where every 10 minutes the hotel tv station would pop up (ruined my L.A noire experience for the night...)

James, could you run the show?

 

[cnd01]

I agree with you 100%!

And do remember, the rule "you must show up to at least one pre season race, and 1 out of every 3 regular season races" applies to everyone!

I may not be able to race this weekend, it's going to be a last second call (mom and sister decided we should stay in chicago for another day -.-) so I'm going to try to race from the hotel room. The hotel may be the same one where they bolted a piece of metal over the plugs.... Or it may be the one where every 10 minutes the hotel tv station would pop up (ruined my L.A noire experience for the night...)

James, could you run the show?

I can host if necessary. What about MrM?

 

[polarbear345]

I can host if necessary. What about MrM?

Hosting isn't a problem (Mrm seems to have that under control) I just have a problem with neither James or me not being there. It's our job to be at the races, and this season I haven't been. Granted, I've been on vacation, but I would have liked to make the race...

OR, do we push the race back a week? Just food for though...

 

[cnd01]

Hosting isn't a problem (Mrm seems to have that under control) I just have a problem with neither James or me not being there. It's our job to be at the races, and this season I haven't been. Granted, I've been on vacation, but I would have liked to make the race...

OR, do we push the race back a week? Just food for though...

I think we should go ahead and run it. Unless we don't have enough cars to at least halfway fill the grid.

 

[polarbear345]

I think we should go ahead and run it. Unless we don't have enough cars to at least halfway fill the grid.

Alright, sounds like a plan.

I will make a list of sorts too keep track of attendance. Failure to attend both pre season races will get you moved to reserve. Missing 3 races in a row will have you removed from the series (unless you have a excuse).

 

[cnd01]

Alright, sounds like a plan.

I will make a list of sorts too keep track of attendance. Failure to attend both pre season races will get you moved to reserve. Missing 3 races in a row will have you removed from the series (unless you have a excuse).

Good policy to have. Let's hope we won't have to enforce it.

 

[polarbear345]

Good policy to have. Let's hope we won't have to enforce it.

Yea, but it'll keep the grid pretty full.. At least I hope... And it'll open up some spots before the regular season, and well get a idea of how many people from each class show up. If need be, I'll move to GT. Seems like this season has the opposite of last seasons attendance woes, if we can gather anything from the pre preseason race.

 

[freshseth83]

I may switch to using the Toyota Minolta. Anthony, I don't want to be your teammate because I'd like to beat you using a different car. I don't think the Nissan is the fastest, but I think you are pretty fast. I don't know the other guys' speed, so going by what I've seen I think you would be the main challenge. So I set my sights on beating the guy who has won. That would be you, I don't want to be confined to a team mate and have to worry about what's best for the team that we would be on. So I would be freer to race against you if I weren't your teammate. That's what I feel.

 

[polarbear345]

I may switch to using the Toyota Minolta. Anthony, I don't want to be your teammate because I'd like to beat you using a different car. I don't think the Nissan is the fastest, but I think you are pretty fast. I don't know the other guys' speed, so going by what I've seen I think you would be the main challenge. So I set my sights on beating the guy who has won. That would be you, I don't want to be confined to a team mate and have to worry about what's best for the team that we would be on. So I would be freer to race against you if I weren't your teammate. That's what I feel.

Well, that cars full for now... Well worry about this problem the week before the start of the real season.

 

[cnd01]

Well, that cars full for now... Well worry about this problem the week before the start of the real season.

That's right. Everything will eventually work out.

 

[freshseth83]

Well, that cars full for now... Well worry about this problem the week before the start of the real season.

I stated early on I didn't want Anthony as a team mate. So maybe you could allow a switch? And why is the Minolta 1050kg when the other two are 1060kg? If anything the Minolta has a higher top speed, maybe they should all weight the same?

 

[polarbear345]

I stated early on I didn't want Anthony as a team mate. So maybe you could allow a switch? And why is the Minolta 1050kg when the other two are 1060kg? If anything the Minolta has a higher top speed, maybe they should all weight the same?

This is what pre season is for. The problem doesn't have to be fixed now, and it won't. I'm not going to switch people around because you don't want your teammate. And it couldve been a typo, I can't recall. I can't re test cars now either.

 

[cnd01]

This is what pre season is for. The problem doesn't have to be fixed now, and it won't. I'm not going to switch people around because you don't want your teammate. And it couldve been a typo, I can't recall. I can't re test cars now either.

Just be anthony's teammate. I would love to have ant as mine. (No offence shin)