- 7,711
- Indiana-USA
- OwensRacing
Hey Dave,
These are going to be really nice!!!! Excellent idea.
These are going to be really nice!!!! Excellent idea.
The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread
- Thread starter TomN
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- 838
- Tennessee
Hey Dave,
These are going to be really nice!!!! Excellent idea.
Damn those are huge! I want some. What does the accelerator pedal look like?
- 7,711
- Indiana-USA
- OwensRacing
This is a replacement for the brake pedal.
Basically Dave was wanting a larger pedal for two footed driving. So we made one about 1 1/2 times wider. Same height. As well fully adjustable as you can see. We went a lil thicker since there is more over hang.
CNC'd 6061 Aluminum.
Basically Dave was wanting a larger pedal for two footed driving. So we made one about 1 1/2 times wider. Same height. As well fully adjustable as you can see. We went a lil thicker since there is more over hang.
CNC'd 6061 Aluminum.
- 6,356
- Michigan
- DaveTheStalker
OwensRacing
Yes it does! Can't wait for UPS to get here. Too bad they don't deliver on Saturdays
. My precious pedal is sitting in some UPS barn :'(How did the curve work out?
Guess I probably won't be needing to disassemble the unit to swap the pedals.
- 838
- Tennessee
So are you milling them? If so I will pm you.
- 6,356
- Michigan
- DaveTheStalker
Well, we know there are 2 people who will reap the benefit of a larger brake pedal. With the lack of a shifter, most people's left foot isn't doing much. Why not left foot brake?
This will he'll ease the squeeze in the 'man region'!
This looks much nicer than the solution PlaySeat came up with for the G25/27 left foot brakers.
This will he'll ease the squeeze in the 'man region'!
This looks much nicer than the solution PlaySeat came up with for the G25/27 left foot brakers.
- 7,711
- Indiana-USA
- OwensRacing
VINCE__
Dave is actually the man with the idea. I just helped him make it happen.
So you are best to PM in regards to pedals.
If you wanting sone CNC work done then by all means feel free to PM me.
- 838
- Tennessee
In my opinion I think this will be a must have when "The Shifter" comes out.
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- dumchidumchi
- dumchidumchi
Hey makimak22, thanks for the pictures. You know it's funny...after few days playing with my T500RS, I don't really mind the rubber wheel rim. The first thing I noticed about the wheel rim is that since it's made in rubber, there is no stitches on the inside of the rim. With G25/G27 and GT2, I got scratch mark on the inside of my thumb from those stitches. With T500RS, I'm perfectly okay even after long hours of playing.
I guess they will eventually release wheel upgrade with more fancy wheel rim option. But the thing I really want to see is a load cell brake mod or something similar. The included "Realistic" brake mod is nice but I would like to see something that can gives a bit more stiffer feeling than that. I'm so used to the short travel distance and the stiffness of AP electrix load cell mod on my G25/G27.
I guess they will eventually release wheel upgrade with more fancy wheel rim option. But the thing I really want to see is a load cell brake mod or something similar. The included "Realistic" brake mod is nice but I would like to see something that can gives a bit more stiffer feeling than that. I'm so used to the short travel distance and the stiffness of AP electrix load cell mod on my G25/G27.
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- dumchidumchi
- dumchidumchi
That oversized brake pedal is nice. Are you selling them?
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- asobu225599
You must have very delicate hands
I don`t mind rubber but the quality of the T500 wheel had me worried about durability... Also I prefer thicker rims than the standard G27/T500.I might get a chance next month to `test drive` the Fanatec GT2/CSP.
- 6,356
- Michigan
- DaveTheStalker
Wheelskins can make a "skin" for any sized wheel.
http://www.wheelskins.com/
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_a...8&node=15684181&field-brandtextbin=Wheelskins
http://www.wheelskins.com/
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_a...8&node=15684181&field-brandtextbin=Wheelskins
Mr Latte
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- N Ireland
Those are only an example.
Id expect 1/8th scale size to be fine as these would be used along with the current springs/tension the pedals use.
These could maybe just help give more response and allow a stiffer setting.
Its worth investigating...
Im also close to sorting my Buttkicker based brake pedal which increases in strength with the pedal depression.
Just need a suitable mounting solution for it but will think about a few alternative options.
Nice to see some mods coming by others, love that wheel rim as well.
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- Gordata
So jealous of makimak22's wheel. Lol
- 838
- Tennessee
If you can come up with the right concept I would be willing to give it a test. The gas pedal actually feels pretty good. It's the clutch (if we are ever going to need it) that I will want a more realistic feel. It just feels to light. Needs more spring to it in a major way, ya know?
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- dumchidumchi
- dumchidumchi
You must have very delicate hands
I might get a chance next month to `test drive` the Fanatec GT2/CSP.
Hmm...durability...You know I worry about durability on my GT2 more than any wheel I've owned. My first GT2 was dead after less than 30 mins of playing. Now the replacement wheel is working alright...but the whole experience already left me a bad taste about Fanatec QC.
If you test out the CSP, you might want to adjust the brake pedal a bit. Will you have access to the tuning kit? If so, swap in the longer brake rod and harder foam. And you might also want to put the brake one slot up to get a shorter travel distance and stiffer feel. The standard/default brake pedal setting doesn't feel good at all...well, at least that's what I think.
Oh, if you like thicker rim, GT2 might suit you. I like the rim size on T500RS...guess I have smaller hands.
I have the same thing. I believe this is just because of the resistance from the belt drive. In fact this is my main gripe with this wheel.. I posted this on the iRacing forums too:
I have owned a Fanatec GT3RS wheel before. The thing that put me off the Fanatec was the intrinsic resistance or dampening caused by the friction of the belts moving around inside. And, I'm sad to say, the Thrustmaster suffers from the same thing. When the forces on the steering wheel are light, such as when you're going over a crest or even down a straight, the resistance of the wheel masks the subtle force feedback effects so that you miss out on vital information. For instance: driving the iRacing Falcon V8 at Road Atlanta, when going over the final crest before the finish line, I nearly always get a little bit of oversteer as the car gets light (almost airborne) over the crest. With my G25 I can feel this tiny cue clearly and correct it in time by applying opposite lock. With the T500 I can't feel anything until it's too late.
The best way to demonstrate this problem is to try driving the iRacing Lotus, or the netKar KS2. With these cars the steering is light at low speed but tightens up at high speed. This means you'll have to turn your FFB setting down quite a bit to feel anything at high speeds. BUT! That also means that at low speed, the force feedback effects are VERY weak. And, with the T500, these forces are almost completely masked out by the resistance of the wheel. I found it nearly impossible to drive the Lotus with this wheel. If anyone has had success, please share!
I've switched back and forth between the T500 and the G25 several times, and every time, going back to the trusty old G25 is like breathing fresh air again. The low (nearly non-existant) internal resistance of this wheel means that EVERYTHING I feel comes from the game itself, and even the weakest force-feedback signals get conveyed (provided you use reasonable FFB settings). Sure it's not as quick as the T500, but who needs that speed when you can correct so quickly and nicely yourself??
I've read that the T500 wheel might require a bit of a "break-in period" for the belts to soften up and stuff, so I'm going to keep using it for another week. If I still feel the same way about then as I do now, I'll return it to the store and get my money back.
Can anyone relate to my experience, or is everyone unanimously praising this thing?
- 10,403
- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
I've got a question.
Does the wheel wobble in GT5 like other wheels when driving a powerful car?
Does the wheel wobble in GT5 like other wheels when driving a powerful car?
- 10,403
- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
That's good about no wobble,
Found this here Solution for T500RS Wheel in TDU 2-PC:
http://www.racedepartment.com/test-drive-unlimited-2/52247-solution-for-t500rs-wheel-tdu-2-a.html
http://www.racedepartment.com/test-drive-unlimited-2/52247-solution-for-t500rs-wheel-tdu-2-a.html
- 1,961
- Texas
- sandboxgod
You didnt have this issue with a Fanatec gt3/gt2 wheel right (I'm just curious cause still waiting on my gt2 to get here)?
Yeah thats the great thing about the T500RS I havent seen anything like that. I did use to get that issue with a DFP wheel tho
- 10,403
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sandboxgod
Tbh I haven't tried it. I imagine not as you can dial in deadzone if needed.
I know the T500RS doesn't have that function so I wondered how it coped.
I don't play GT5, it was more of a question to see how it coped.
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- dumchidumchi
- dumchidumchi
Hi Sandboxgod, I just did few laps on GT5 with my GT2. Well, to answer your questions...first, I took the Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93 to Nurburgring Nordschleife. On the long straight towards the end, I took my hands off the wheel and the wheel remained straight right until the end of the straight where the wheel wooble a bit. But it's nothing like what DFP does. So, I think you would be okay with this.
Also, GT2 does return to center if you let go of the wheel...but it's much slower than what T500RS does.
I have spent the past few days playing with T500RS on GT5. Going back to GT2 feels very different. T500RS wheel feels so much tighter, it gives me a sense of precision as I turn the wheel. T500RS FFB is also much stronger yet refined. GT2 FFB on GT5 doesn't feel as tight and detail as T500RS. It kind of gives a "toy-like" feeling. I know there will be people out there disagree with me. But that's just how I feel about these two wheels.
The pedals...at first, I missed the load cell brake on my G25 with AP Electrix mod. After tweaking the CSP with tuning kit and put the brake one slot up, it feels much better and it feels closer to the AP Electrix mod. But after few days on T500RS' inverted pedal setting, I don't really miss load cell that much. I guess this is the thing that you can get used to. But one thing I do miss is the CSP ABS vibrating motor. I have it set at 95 so when I really slam or floor the brake, it vibrates. I like that effect a lot and it helps me to judge how hard I am hitting the brake.
I'm going to stick with GT2 for a bit longer because I want to finish off Forza3 before the new one comes out later this year. I was about half way thru the events before my 3rd Xbox wheel broke down. Now, I am going back to it with GT2 and enjoy the game.
- 2,980
- The Ramapo Mountains
- jjaisli
I noticed that the price of the T500 RS has now dropped to $549 on Amazon.com and eligible for free shipping within the US. I'm actually quite interested in replacing my G27 with the T500 so I almost pressed the button. But I'm just not willing to make the jump until I know I can get my hands on the h-pattern shifter and know for a fact that it operates, feels and functions at least as well as the wheel itself. I'm a bit disappointed that we're now half way through April and at least to my knowledge, we haven't seen so much as a pre-production spy photo or speculation rumors for any further official comments from Thurstmaster. I'm very worried that this could end up being a piece of vaporware and we'll never actually see it.
Has anybody heard anything further about the h-pattern shifter?
Has anybody heard anything further about the h-pattern shifter?
I've been googling T500 H-pattern shifter everyday trying to get some news about it but nothing still. I wouldn't miss the H shifter on my g27 at all in in GT5. It doesn't really function really well and I always miss the shift and just get stuck in neutral if I'm driving a high hp car and playing online. I end up just paddle shifting instead. The g27 h shifter just brings the fun in the game but if I want to be competitive I just paddle shift.
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- The Ramapo Mountains
- jjaisli
Well, this is true. At least with the G27. If you use the clutch and H-pattern shifter, no matter how quick you are, depending on the track, you're giving up anywhere from .5 per lap up to goodness knows how much on the full Nurburgring. So for truly competitive events, you're forced to use the paddle shifters or you're just not going to be fast enough. I think in a way, this is slightly flawed. For cars (IRL) that have the option to use both a manual and semi-automatic transmission, like say, the Ferrari F430, the semi-auto will offer an advantage. But it doesn't really make sense and it's really not fair that you can shift much faster (in the game) using the paddles than you can with the h-pattern shifter. The game gives a clear advantage to people who use their fingers instead of their elbows. I think PD engineered this on purpose to avoid the kind of fire that resulted from the G25 mod in Prologue where people could shift without lifting the gas and gained an advantage in TTs because of it.
But just like using cockpit view (especially in the rain) it's a nice thing to have and and it's the sense of immersion that draws me in, even if it slows you down a bit. I wouldn't drive the R10 with the clutch and H-pattern. But at the same time, it feels silly to drive the 1965 Alfa TZ2 using paddle shifters. And using the h-pattern makes it a much more enjoyable experience.
The fact that it's all too easy to 'miss' a shift and throw the car into neutral if you don't time it exactly correct is something I REALLY do consider to be a flaw of the game. No question about this one. Although this was improved greatly after the 1.06(?) update.
But just like using cockpit view (especially in the rain) it's a nice thing to have and and it's the sense of immersion that draws me in, even if it slows you down a bit. I wouldn't drive the R10 with the clutch and H-pattern. But at the same time, it feels silly to drive the 1965 Alfa TZ2 using paddle shifters. And using the h-pattern makes it a much more enjoyable experience.
The fact that it's all too easy to 'miss' a shift and throw the car into neutral if you don't time it exactly correct is something I REALLY do consider to be a flaw of the game. No question about this one.
Although this was improved greatly after the 1.06(?) update.Similar threads
