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I think by release, or soon after it will be £350-£400 if you look at the discounts currently being offered on the warthog.
The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread
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I think by release, or soon after it will be £350-£400 if you look at the discounts currently being offered on the warthog.
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- Don't Need One
Fixed it for you, GT's physics have really progressed over the years and GT5's physics is the best to ever hit consoles. In my personal opinion GT5's physics rivals the GTR series physics (which was good). It might not rival the likes of LFS, Iracing, RBR (rally aspect) but its a damn well is a good simulator and i will be willing to shell out the cash for this wheel. Also considering that this wheel will support every PC sim its a win-win situation
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- FaRhOuL
Fixed it for you, GT's physics have really progressed over the years and GT5's physics is the best to ever hit consoles. In my personal opinion GT5's physics rivals the GTR series physics (which was good). It might not rival the likes of LFS, Iracing, RBR (rally aspect) but its a damn well is a good simulator and i will be willing to shell out the cash for this wheel. Also considering that this wheel will support every PC sim its a win-win situation
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wa wa wii wa that's a lot of $$$ esp. with no shifter.
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- Bongomancan666
Holy not cheapness... still no talk of the added or adding of the Shifter and its that price. HA.
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That is in no way proof they never will be supported (although I have my doubts they will ever be for GT5).
The buttons all work with PS3 as in the PS3 can detect them, however it's up to the individual game programmer to support them or not. In this case PD have given the G27 the shaft for some reason (while the G25 gets much better support - all buttons work AND they can use RA Function!)
Note that some of the buttons that don't work in GT5 DO work in other games (including GT5P).
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/PLAYSTATION-3-READ-ONLY-ARCHIVE/G27-Button-Map/td-p/404863
Here you can see a logitech forum support person explaining it's up to the game dev what the buttons do. In the case of GT5 many of the buttons do nothing and for some stupid reason you can't launch RA menu from the wheel no matter what you assign it to.
This pisses me off quite a bit BTW....
With this new official wheel out I really doubt PD will "fix" (I put quotes because I think PD intentionally crippled G27 support in light of the new official wheel as it's probably the biggest competitor) the G27 problems.
shirakawaa
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No need to "fix", driving physics and the simulation of many things (tire model, brakes, differentials... or even etc) in GT5 could be better in many ways. I hope it will evolve to PC-sim level detail soon.Fixed it for you, GT's physics have really progressed over the years and GT5's physics is the best to ever hit consoles. In my personal opinion GT5's physics rivals the GTR series physics (which was good). It might not rival the likes of LFS, Iracing, RBR (rally aspect) but its a damn well is a good simulator and i will be willing to shell out the cash for this wheel. Also considering that this wheel will support every PC sim its a win-win situation
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- DaveTheStalker
600 bucks!!!! Wow, the wife won't be happy about that. All depends in reviews to determine if it's worth that price tag. At least I have until the end of January to decide.
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For me, even if it's "worth" it I don't know that I could bring myself to do it... it had better be PC compatible too for the price (although I can't possibly see it being 360 compatible).
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$600? Wow. I was really hoping when Kaz said $500 that was the JDM price, and like the G27, it'd be cheaper stateside, but now it's even more than that and still without a shifter?
I think I'll just hold out for full G27 support for now, and wait for reviews, the shifter to come out, and a price drop before I even consider buying this.
I think I'll just hold out for full G27 support for now, and wait for reviews, the shifter to come out, and a price drop before I even consider buying this.
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You all seem to forget that $500 is the MSRP so it will most likely sell for about $430 ON RELEASE? A month or 2-3 later the price will already drop a bit, and a year after it'll probably be less then what the g27 is now
On a whole different note:
I hate that i cant see how it attaches to things like tables and such, because i have a very old thing to lock between the legs to which you can attach your steering wheels, and still today every logitech fits it (But i got it with my old Logitech Driving Force. (Nope, not the pro, or the gt, or anything else.)) And for me, since i have no room to race anywhere else than on my adjustable bed. This thing would be rubbish if it doesnt fit.
PS: I Do ****ing love the Pedals
On a whole different note:
I hate that i cant see how it attaches to things like tables and such, because i have a very old thing to lock between the legs to which you can attach your steering wheels, and still today every logitech fits it (But i got it with my old Logitech Driving Force. (Nope, not the pro, or the gt, or anything else.)) And for me, since i have no room to race anywhere else than on my adjustable bed. This thing would be rubbish if it doesnt fit.
PS: I Do ****ing love the Pedals
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I may have took the plunge and got this if it was less than £300. As it is, I'm just going to use my 5 year old DF Pro until it breaks. When it does, I'll see what price this is at the time.
The DF Pro is a much cheaper wheel, and the pedals aren't great, plus there is a whopping force feedback deadzone, but this thing has lasted 5 years of abuse and it all works 100%. You can't knock Logitech for value.
The best wheel, IMO, for price/value was the wheel I sold to get the DF Pro - The Logitech Momo Force (not the cheaper Logitech Momo). The pedals were fantastic quality, and the wheel mechanism was rock solid - and I think the price was pretty similar to the DF Pro.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-racing,470-10.html
The DF Pro is a much cheaper wheel, and the pedals aren't great, plus there is a whopping force feedback deadzone, but this thing has lasted 5 years of abuse and it all works 100%. You can't knock Logitech for value.
The best wheel, IMO, for price/value was the wheel I sold to get the DF Pro - The Logitech Momo Force (not the cheaper Logitech Momo). The pedals were fantastic quality, and the wheel mechanism was rock solid - and I think the price was pretty similar to the DF Pro.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-racing,470-10.html
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They are testing the market and if they get enough pre-orders thrustmaster will think the price is right - my advice - DONT pre-order!!!
£300 seems about right any more and it's taking the Michale unless of course it totally takes wheels to another level - lets wait until the reviews come in.
£300 seems about right any more and it's taking the Michale unless of course it totally takes wheels to another level - lets wait until the reviews come in.
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I would have agree with you until the last show. ISR suppose to have use Logitech wheels so long yet didn't noticed you had to calibrate the brake pedal in Gt5? FFB dead zone with the dfgt when I have to add dead zone with the fanatec wheel just to keep it centered? I didn't notice any dead zone with my dfgt.Oh, stop whining about 'sour grapes.' ISR promotes a product because it is the best - I do not see any fanboy-favoritism in their reviews and I have been watching their show for ~2 years.
go back and watch all of the ISR episodes. ISR is fair, balanced and open about likes and dislikes.
merry christmas!
Also "using CSP is almost like cheating" yet I can brake just as easily with my G27 especially with the nixim mod. ( I've used both pedals with GT5) ISR is not going to push the nixim mod (works just as well as a load cell) because it's very cheap.
I must say after this last show I lost a little faith in ISR. Now as far as Gt5 they did seem fair but now I have to agree they seem to be Fanatec fan boys.
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Though this is VERY cool and I have a box in the garage FULL of Thrustmaster products, I'm just not sure how they could invest SO much in this expecting a return unless PD chipped in...
If this was THE definitive peripheral for racing games then it would have 360 and PC compatibility... But then it's branded with GT so that seems like a further limited market...
Not sure how one game even as popular as GT could justify a somewhat proprietary device like this... ESPECIALLY when the Porsche wheel as FULL hardware compatibility and an H shifter...
Personally I would LOVE one but I would think if it was down to most people the money would be better spend on a play-seat and DFGT... and for like 100 more throw in the PS3...
totally confused... no clue how they are going to recoup the R&D costs unless there are arcade cabinets or other deals... or if the GT branding is only for a period of time...
If this was THE definitive peripheral for racing games then it would have 360 and PC compatibility... But then it's branded with GT so that seems like a further limited market...
Not sure how one game even as popular as GT could justify a somewhat proprietary device like this... ESPECIALLY when the Porsche wheel as FULL hardware compatibility and an H shifter...
Personally I would LOVE one but I would think if it was down to most people the money would be better spend on a play-seat and DFGT... and for like 100 more throw in the PS3...
totally confused... no clue how they are going to recoup the R&D costs unless there are arcade cabinets or other deals... or if the GT branding is only for a period of time...
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- FaRhOuL
Just wondering:
Is it normal for the paddle shifters to be attached to the base of the wheel and not to the wheel rim itself? Now when you change gears while turning won't it be a pain to displace your hand to push the gear levers (which in turn can be risky and time-losing)?
Is it normal for the paddle shifters to be attached to the base of the wheel and not to the wheel rim itself? Now when you change gears while turning won't it be a pain to displace your hand to push the gear levers (which in turn can be risky and time-losing)?
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Just wondering:
Is it normal for the paddle shifters to be attached to the base of the wheel and not to the wheel rim itself? Now when you change gears while turning won't it be a pain to displace your hand to push the gear levers (which in turn can be risky and time-losing)?
It is done on the Nissan GTR I believe. They put it off the steering wheel to increase steering response times I think on the GTR.
shirakawaa
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With fixed shifting paddles you always know where the paddles are, especially since the wheel has got 1080 degrees of rotation. That's something that should have been put on the G27 since it doesn't have a sequential shifter.
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Exactly, couldn't have put it any better. I'm so glad they did this, it was one of the things I always wanted to see in a wheel, but they were all fixed to the wheel.
90 degree wheels like F1 you always have your hands in the same place, so the shifter is always there at the tip of your fingers. With more that 90 degree rotation you end up losing it if you have to turn the wheel more than 180 degrees.
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- FaRhOuL
Oh I get it now. I never used a steering wheel with shifter paddles and I had seen on many wheels that it was attached to the rim and that's why I thought it was weird.
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