The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread
- Thread starter TomN
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- GTRL_Junior
- protoapocalypse
Wow!! Getting ready to sell my G27 wheel for this bad boy. I cant wait to see what this wheel will be capavle of doing it pc and PS3.
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why the change in brand loyalty? PD has been supporting Logicool (both Japanese companies) for how long now? According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrustmaster), Thrustmaster was founded in Oregon. I find it very strange for this to occur, especially considering Japanese culture and the past they have with the U.S. Perhaps it goes to show that Kaz is truly more interested in a quality product (not that my G25 isn't excellent) than in racial traditions and (not-so) ancient history....?
Upon further review, Thurstmaster's parent company, Guillemot (http://www.guillemot.com), appears to be a French / U.K. company. But this still furthers my puzzlement, why endorse products of the Axis Powers when there's an excellent peripheral manufacturer 'around the corner'? Even if there was a dispute with Logicool, I'm sure there are several other Japanese electronics companies that would more than welcome the endorsement.
Upon further review, Thurstmaster's parent company, Guillemot (http://www.guillemot.com), appears to be a French / U.K. company. But this still furthers my puzzlement, why endorse products of the Axis Powers when there's an excellent peripheral manufacturer 'around the corner'? Even if there was a dispute with Logicool, I'm sure there are several other Japanese electronics companies that would more than welcome the endorsement.
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after the banners stuff on their site they posted a link to a new FB page...seems things are in process!
You can go to their Facebook page for news: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thrustmaster-T500-RS/177715455589531?v=wall
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Good spot with the Facebook page. There may be some new information there about the H.E.A.R.T. FFB system:
“H.E.A.R.T. HALLEFFECT ACCURATE TECHNOLOGY™” is the name of the new technology developed by Thrustmaster to reproduce movements made on a product in games. It relies on magnetic – and not mechanical – 3D (HallEffect) sensors, placed in different locations according to the product in question. The precision made possible by the use of this technology is significantly higher than that provided by standard technologies. Another advantage of this system: by eliminating all friction, it guarantees zero mechanical wear, for permanent precision that won’t decrease over time. The level of precision is also enhanced by the absence of any dead zones: even the slightest movement made by the player results in a reaction. Actions in games are therefore more linear, smoother and without any untimely jolts. A patent application has been filed for this technology.
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Well, they changed the first part of the animation, and now they show the shifting paddles NOT rotating with the wheel, which is the way I expected from the way the wheel's rotating bezel is separate from where the shifter is placed.
The first animation showed it rotating together with the wheel. This could be a hint from them showing that the wheel will have the option to be set to be fixed or turn with the wheel somehow. Or it could be that they just made an error with the first animation and changed it. It's hard to tell, but one thing's for sure, the animation showed both.
So it seems to be confirmed that the paddles will either:
Not rotate at all.
Or
Have the option to change from rotating to fixed.
The first animation showed it rotating together with the wheel. This could be a hint from them showing that the wheel will have the option to be set to be fixed or turn with the wheel somehow. Or it could be that they just made an error with the first animation and changed it. It's hard to tell, but one thing's for sure, the animation showed both.
So it seems to be confirmed that the paddles will either:
Not rotate at all.
Or
Have the option to change from rotating to fixed.
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Well, I didn't say anything was confirmed, I said it's confirmed to be either one of those options. I think the first one too.
Fixed paddle ALONE is out of question now, otherwise they wouldn't have changed the animation. So it's gotta be either rotating ONLY or both. Meaning it's confirmed to be one of those two.
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- South Yorkshire
- GTP_Thedeester1
Most cam and crank sensors in engines these last 10 years are hall effect its nothing new.....nice to see it in a wheel though...I guess thrustmaster called it 3d for a buzz? Its basic phisics!
Hall effect has been known for some time so I doubt theres a patent there...Its the effect a steel or iron object has on a magnetic field. It can give very accurate results and it doesnt wear out...so thats why its so expensive?
Lame marketing...Since a standard pot wont wear out for like 5 years! They should have used less plastic and more leather.........A whole lot of geeks are gonna buy this
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- GTP_Thedeester1
.....Sorry to turn this into a science forum but thats a massive scam....The technology is not new and wasnt developed by thrustmaster....Old Physics below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect
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- jonny_goddard
dose anyone know how much it costs???
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It is not out yet but Kaz Yam said around $500.
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- jonny_goddard
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- Labounti
Who said it was new or their own?
Anyway Looking at the wheel the paddles are on a rotating plate the diameter of the paddle's base. Inside that plate is the steering column. So it appears the wheel can be fixed or rotating paddles. Until its confirmed that's my theory.
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- RedSuinit
This type of application however has NEVER been done before. Therefore the Tech they used to make it applicable in this situation IS NEW, and was DEVELOPED BY THRUSTMASTERS. Doh! 
Ah Ha! Thank you. The mysteries of the universe have been solved. Swiss made stuff is always great quality. Nice screen name by the way...
Ironically, my first encounter with Hall Effect sensors was in ABS systems (Wheel Speed Sensors). My understanding is that it is the primary application for them. Also, there is a huge difference between '"patent pending" or "patent application has been filed" and actually being granted one. I could apply for a patent on a Flux Capacitor designed specifically for the AE86 Toyota Corolla if I wanted.
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New info and new pics!
"The pedal set of the T500 RS is 100% adjustable: you can adjust the height, the spacing and the inclination of each pedal and even replace the Thrustmaster pedals by a set from motorsport manufacturers!"
"The pedals set of the T500 RS is made of 100% of metal (7Kg / 15.4Lbs) which provides optimal stability, the best durability and the most realistic, simulation experience!"
Source: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thrustmaster-T500-RS/177715455589531
"The pedal set of the T500 RS is 100% adjustable: you can adjust the height, the spacing and the inclination of each pedal and even replace the Thrustmaster pedals by a set from motorsport manufacturers!"
"The pedals set of the T500 RS is made of 100% of metal (7Kg / 15.4Lbs) which provides optimal stability, the best durability and the most realistic, simulation experience!"
Source: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thrustmaster-T500-RS/177715455589531
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The more I hear about this wheel the more the price seems justifiable to me, so it's becoming a must buy in my 2011 list too.
I can't wait to get more info on the technology used in the pedals, maybe some more info on the wheel, and most importantly info on the shifter that is sold separately. More pics from them would be great too.
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