The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread

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oqvist
It sure get hot though. The foam had melted a bit on mine when I took it apart to replace the fan. That explained the smell :)

Btw what is the name of the old drivers. I searched and found some 2012 ttrs_3. Have to install it on my backup computer.
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They go by year, then update number. That was the third (and final) update of 2012. 2013_ttrs_1 is the first update they did after they released the GTE add-on wheel earlier this year. This is 2013_ttrs_2 since it's the second update they've done.

I've rolled back to 2013_ttrs_1.
 
OwensRacing
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Cheers, received my big brake pedal and fitted it yesterday.

Very happy now and have no excuse for bad driving.

For anyone interested you can check out photos of the pedals and my rig here:

http://insidesimracing.tv/forums/topic/8061-visionracer-vr3-without-center-support-post-updated/

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JohnBodin
Ooh -- nice-looking pedal for a nice-looking load cell! 👍

;)

How does the load cell feel with the larger pedal? Any difference, or just more room for your foot?
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I just had time last night to stare at it and admire it from a distance. I think the biggest benefit will be to just allow me to switch from left to right foot braking that bit easier depending upon the car.

And yes John still loving that load cell of yours!
 
Simpa,

While it doesn't have the visual allure of a CSW on several levels, it is a solid product from what I have read and personally experienced. While it's not without it's issues, the majority of them will not keep you from using the equipment. The trouble right now is finding one...

It seems as though the T500RS may be getting replaced by the TX. The TX has a brushless motor among other things. :) However, I'm not that fond of the rim and do not know if it can be swapped, etc. I know the rim and it's size are important to you so that is something major to consider there.
 
mrbasher
Simpa,

While it doesn't have the visual allure of a CSW on several levels, it is a solid product from what I have read and personally experienced. While it's not without it's issues, the majority of them will not keep you from using the equipment. The trouble right now is finding one...

It seems as though the T500RS may be getting replaced by the TX. The TX has a brushless motor among other things. :) However, I'm not that fond of the rim and do not know if it can be swapped, etc. I know the rim and it's size are important to you so that is something major to consider there.
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Isn´t the new TX only for Xbox one? If I would buy the T500 I would be buying a DSD adapter and a Momo or Sparco rim so It´s not that big of an issue, the biggest issue is that I would in the end pay around 1000$ if I would buy a new wheel rim and CSP V2 for the T500. And 1000$ is same price I would pay for a CSW hub, BMW rim and CSP V2 pedals.
 
Simmpa
Isn´t the new TX only for Xbox one? If I would buy the T500 I would be buying a DSD adapter and a Momo or Sparco rim so It´s not that big of an issue, the biggest issue is that I would in the end pay around 1000$ if I would buy a new wheel rim and CSP V2 for the T500. And 1000$ is same price I would pay for a CSW hub, BMW rim and CSP V2 pedals.
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Without revealing too much... I'll just say, that is unlikely. ;) However, that is why I stated the TX may be replacing the T500RS. Since there are still some unknowns to the public this creates a bit of a situation, potentially. If a person waits, they may not be able to find a new T500RS. Then what? I just wanted to mention it.

If you go the T500 route, here is my recommendation:

Purchase the T500RS, a rim from Sam Maxwell (this gives you full buttons that work on the rim), and a load cell mod from John Bodin.

The total price should still be under $1000 for the whole setup depending on the rim you choose and you will surely enjoy it. Plus, you can still use it on the PS3. :) (or likely PS4 as well)
 
mrbasher
Without revealing too much... I'll just say, that is unlikely. ;) However, that is why I stated the TX may be replacing the T500RS. Since there are still some unknowns to the public this creates a bit of a situation, potentially. If a person waits, they may not be able to find a new T500RS. Then what? I just wanted to mention it.

If you go the T500 route, here is my recommendation:

Purchase the T500RS, a rim from Sam Maxwell (this gives you full buttons that work on the rim), and a load cell mod from John Bodin.

The total price should still be under $1000 for the whole setup depending on the rim you choose and you will surely enjoy it. Plus, you can still use it on the PS3. :) (or likely PS4 as well)
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Wich site do I go to, to order a Sam Maxwell rim? Worth to mention is that I live in Sweden so I hope the shipping cost isn´t too high. Thanks for your help anyways.

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I forgot to mention, is there any drilling template for T500? I have an Obutto Ozone rig to attach the wheel to and there are no predrilled holes on the wheel plate.
 
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If you can wait until there is more info. There is a possibility MS don´t want their "official Xbox One" wheel to be available on other platforms... You never know I don´t believe that will happen but I wouldn´t be shocked.

I would advice getting the F1 integral (or T500RS if you just don´t believe you have any use for a F1 arcade rim). What would you use the standard rim with if you could get a solid rim more suitable for real usage. Sure could get the new smaller GTE rim and then get the 320 mm rim you will race with 95 %.

But I believe it will work so that when you tried a rim that is made of light metal and doesn´t flex you will want to replace the 300 or 285 mm rims with the real deal anyway.

If you race on PC you don´t get a Sam Maxwell wheel way overpriced. You get a SRW S1 wheel strip it from the paddles and mount it on your custom wheel. It would been better if it was wireless if simraceway follow up with a wireless version I will buy that too most likely.

This give you rev lights all customisable with free software in Fanaled and 15 buttons plus D-pad. For iRacing and simraceway of course you get the 3 levers operating as well. I have no problem reaching them on my 320 mm rim but I have relatively large hands. For larger rims it will start to get tricky.

The new TX is highly interesting. May fix the one big issue I have with the T500RS and it´s the smoothness. If they can keep the torque but getting it as smooth as the Fanatec wheels for example it may be a real winner though the price may be customability. Suggested MSRP suggest it´s a bit of a budget version so somewhere they is going to cut obviously.

My 320 mm rim is certainly preferrably for a lot of cars where even the 300 mm may feel to small. Took quite a bit of adjusting though as I was used to the small Turbo S and G27 rims. But it would perhaps feel a bit bulky as a one and only rim. For rallying I would like a smaller one. But you can mount almost every wheel on the planet on the T500RS a really cool feature.

I payed a bit more since I got the F1 version but I actually payed less for my 320 mm suede rim that is of way better quality then the stock GT rim. I found the SRW S1 for 15! USD including most wanted so with that and shipping it was about the same price as the stock GT Rim. Absolute no brainer which is the better deal.

F1 rim do work quite okay. Sure it is plastic and not that appealing but stealth black so nothing that really distracts while racing. It certainly is a lot easier to integrate then the 320 mm rim as it doesn´t build on the already huge bulk of the T500RS. This goes much easier now that I switched from a small 24" monitor to a 46". Don´t matter as much now that part of my vision is clouded by the wheel rim and the proportions feel much more natural.

The smaller diameter do give the sensation of more torque despite it´s the same weight as the 320 mm. The downside is that it feels a bit less smooth and of course it´s plastic not 100 % metal like my 320 mm Rim but it can actually cause some nice vibrations. It´s quite okay though a bit expensive for what it´s and smaller diameter than that would be really hard to get any kind of precision with. Primarily for twitch shooters.

I bought my rims from rallydesign.co.uk rmd malage was my weapon of choice. Suede is nice but beware they loose their super grip very fast.
 
Oh and for the pedals you don´t need to pay for an expensive load cell mod either. Mr Basher himself has a bushing mod that work really well for me. Competes very well against my clubsport V2s.

I find the T500RS pedals more ergonomical and nice to use. Brake is even steven just different feels. CSP V2 throttle is a bit smoother and better though. Clutch is also better but if I race well I never have to use it :)
 
ok thanks for the info, currently I don´t play any racing games becuse I have no functional wheel to the PC (my Fanatec GT2 wheel was defect and the G25 powercord is lost) but my preference is racing and rally, I have no much interest in F1. And like you said oqvist I have my doubts if the TX will work on PC but I might wanna wait and see what happens.
 
oqvist
Oh and for the pedals you don´t need to pay for an expensive load cell mod either. Mr Basher himself has a bushing mod that work really well for me. Competes very well against my clubsport V2s.
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The basher mod is great, I had it for quite some time and while you don't need to get the Bodin load cell you'll certainly want to. I upgraded to the Bodin Loadcell recently and I found about 2 seconds on the track!
 
Simpa, I always forget about the F1 integral setup... It's actually not a bad option. You could purchase one of those and just sell the F1 rim to get some extra money offset the cost of the rim you want. I can't remember how much the F1 rim goes for used but I think a decent amount. Maybe $80? They are $150 ish new so you may even be able to get $100. Something to think about.
 
I would guess that they will be upgrading the T500 with brushless and maybe some other improvements (load cell brake?) and that's why there has been a drop in T500 availability. They have probably cut production and begun production of a new wheel. I'm sure that the TX will not be their top of the range model.
 
eKretz
I would guess that they will be upgrading the T500 with brushless and maybe some other improvements (load cell brake?) and that's why there has been a drop in T500 availability. They have probably cut production and begun production of a new wheel. I'm sure that the TX will not be their top of the range model.
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This is likely as well. Something is amiss certainly. I think they stopped production of the T500RS some time ago and did not anticipate demand well enough to handle the time between models. It's been a LONG time since retailers actually had these in stock, too long for something not to be going on. I mentioned this around the first of the year and it was met with some measure of skepticism... :P
 
mrbasher
This is likely as well. Something is amiss certainly. I think they stopped production of the T500RS some time ago and did not anticipate demand well enough to handle the time between models. It's been a LONG time since retailers actually had these in stock, too long for something not to be going on. I mentioned this around the first of the year and it was met with some measure of skepticism... :P
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What's crazy is, last Thanksgiving everyone was selling them for 350. I bought mine at Amazon for that price. All the third parties on Amazon had dropped their price to that. Newegg was selling it for that.

I guess maybe they didn't anticipate how popular it would be at that price? And they sold out all their stock and were therefore dry until a new model launched in late 2013? It's an odd situation.

oqvist
If you race on PC you don´t get a Sam Maxwell wheel way overpriced. You get a SRW S1 wheel strip it from the paddles and mount it on your custom wheel. It would been better if it was wireless if simraceway follow up with a wireless version I will buy that too most likely.

This give you rev lights all customisable with free software in Fanaled and 15 buttons plus D-pad. For iRacing and simraceway of course you get the 3 levers operating as well. I have no problem reaching them on my 320 mm rim but I have relatively large hands. For larger rims it will start to get tricky.
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Have you ever posted pics of this? It sounds real interesting.
 
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Why would they upgrade the T500 I believe they would rather release a new model makes more sense.

What I don´t understand is why they sold the T500RS so cheap for a while and then raise the prices again. When I bought mine the T500RS was down to 2700 SEK and the F1 integral 3200 SEK. Surely import firms from the baltics but anyway.

I guess we will see what happens soon enough I am sure Thrustmaster don´t plan to miss the Forza 5 launch.
 
Paul I think I posted pictures of it here somewhere. Swedish racers can check up some in forum.swedishsimracers.com about it.

I am a bit busy new lola t70 for rFactor 2 coming out and need to do some corvette c6r racing I will see. But the mod is really stupid simple.

Tools required screwdriver or what it is named in english. remove the paddles and handles. Tricky to get it together again if you would want to mount it on a G27 or something. I doubt it could handle the torque of the T500RS well as a mini f1 wheel but I haven´t tried that.

The shape of the metal bars dictate how easy it is but if you just use a standard three bar design it will be an effortles mount. I just use some of those plastic cable tighteners model bigger on my rmd malaga wheel. Stupid simple is really the name of the game here.
 
oqvist
Why would they upgrade the T500 I believe they would rather release a new model makes more sense.

What I don´t understand is why they sold the T500RS so cheap for a while and then raise the prices again. When I bought mine the T500RS was down to 2700 SEK and the F1 integral 3200 SEK. Surely import firms from the baltics but anyway.

I guess we will see what happens soon enough I am sure Thrustmaster don´t plan to miss the Forza 5 launch.
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I think you are misunderstanding. By "upgrade" I meant a new, improved top-tier wheel, not saying that it will necessarily be called the T500 still. It may or it may not. It could be called the T500TX, or the T500 Mk.2. Or maybe a whole new name. I'm sure the lower pricing was to clear out old stock; they just didn't anticipate how many would sell at that lower price and started to run out before they got to the intro of the next wheel is my guess. So prices went back up to reflect low supply/high demand.
 
I think the price drop was more related to the lack of recently released AAA racing titles to support it, and once GT6 was on the horizon it snuck back up. as for it's successor, yeah it's about that time, however as it was still being showed as the official GT wheel at E3 and other shows, I don't think it's on it's way out yet. TM has invested money into making the T500 into a "platform" of sorts with the rims and accessories, and if they do release a NEW wheel that doesn't support them, then they lose all that development.
 
eKretz
I would guess that they will be upgrading the T500 with brushless and maybe some other improvements (load cell brake?) and that's why there has been a drop in T500 availability. They have probably cut production and begun production of a new wheel. I'm sure that the TX will not be their top of the range model.
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I think they defenetly are gonna release a new model, it is soon 3 years since T500 was launched and the T500 was launched shortly after GT5 in Jan 2011, maybe there will be a new official GT6 wheel?
 
I would honestly like to know, because I'm currently holding out on the T500 for two reasons. One: I can't find the official load cell anywhere in the US. Two: I keep thinking they're gonna make a new one. Amazon has the t500 for about 550 instead or 600.
 
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I think the load cell add-on has been scrapped. Somebody posted a link about it. Didn't sound like odds were that great of it ever seeing shelves.
 
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It's listed, but it's not actually available. Clearly Thrustmaster had plans for this at one point (as evidenced by numerous sites putting it in their database and the leaked PDF user manual), but something appears to have changed. For whatever reason.
 
Probably because they found it problematic to add on (cost-wise or whatever) and scrapped add-on plans in favor of introducing a load cell brake on the new model when it comes out.
 

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