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The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread
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- RC45
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[madiba]Neither was being besmerched, belittled, attacked and maligned... but that is all I have to say about that.[/madiba]Now gloating isn't nice now is it.You did tell them so though.
The wheel is great.
The forces produced do seem to have got less. I wish I had measured the initial forces of the 1st wheel an dwhen this one was new to compare to the current force feedback and force needed to intiiate a turn.
The fan on the second wheel has developed the same dreadful squeal/screech and does so every now and again - I believe other heavy users are experiencing the same thing but are just not reporting it.
The wheel works very well on the PC, when combined with the CSP's the resulting "package" makes an entire brace of PC driving games superb fun again.
The GT2 wheel itself is literally collecting dust in the corner.
After a month, upon reflection the $600 was not a "bargain" at all, but the wheel itself is fantastic and the buyer remorse is quite tollerable.
It is still a "must buy" if you have a spare 600 clams..
My fan has developed the loud noise for the second time so far. I wouldn't consider myself a heavy user, perhaps 30 minutes to an hour every other day.
I have opened a ticket with Thrustmaster tech support. I am hopeful this is something that can easily be resolved.
My hunch right now is that there is something the fan blades are scraping against after the insides get warm enough, but we will see.
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Thanks guys. I was not sure if the update was just for pc game usage. So I will update on unboxing day. Does the firmware update automatic? I have it installed on my pc already. Or will I need to go to the link and update it? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get the most from my new wheel and cockpit set-up.
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RC45,
I have a question, I am just wondering from the perspective of a PS3 only user, I have had Gran Turismo 5 CollectorÂ’s Edition since day one. I donÂ’t plan to play any games on the PC, at this point I am really only playing GT5, Shift 2 is on the horizon and should be here soon.
At this late in the game (Gran Turismo 5 has been out for a while and I have played through a lot of the levels) , do you think it make sense for someone like me to invest in the T500 RS???
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are these available anywhere yet? (im in the UK)..
i would like to buy one asap, but realease dates are confilcintg from suppliers and some are showing sold out for pre orders..
where to buy in the UK?
i would like to buy one asap, but realease dates are confilcintg from suppliers and some are showing sold out for pre orders..
where to buy in the UK?
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- MisterStatic
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Update manually from firmware file on the site where you got the drivers. I linked it in a previous post(on iPad now and too lazy to relink with touchpad
Ok, thanks MrStatic. I have the link bookmarked.
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RFactor and GTR2 will run on a sub-$500 PC...just saying
This is a link to my Laptop that I use for everything, the unit being unboxed is exactly the same spec as mine, I never really thought about playing games on it, though I did play Call of Duty 4 when it first came out, do you think it is capable of doing the stuff you mentioned?
HP HDX Dragon Entertainment PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clyCeze93BU
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- MisterStatic
rFactor has a "try-before-you-buy" here.
You will likely be able to run at max detail (not the default BTW). You can get lots of mods here or here and plenty of other places. I highly recommend the Enduracers mods. Make sure to get the RealFeel mod for FFB which does in fact work with the T500.
Edit: make sure you get everything released by Virtua-LM Their Prototype-C for rFactor is coming soon. Another Proto-C preview vid.
You can even have a little GT in your rfactor.
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- JimmyLoops
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I completely disagree. I race every night with people driving on Logitech wheels, Fanatec wheels, and myself, a T500, and I think we can all sense differences in FFB between cars, and surely depending on what our suspension setup is. (I'm doing my best to be polite about this). I personally don't have too much time to provide specifics, but perhaps a few other GT5 drivers on this Gran Turismo Forum will read this and elaborate further. I personally DO notice a difference, and that whole nonsense about GT5 being for the masses? c'mon. you're taking time to rant about this on a website dedicated to Gran Turismo? What's the point?
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The differences are hard to remember and are subtle.
This has been already discussed, but between 31 and 32, the FFB response seems to have been smoothed out near the center of the steering wheel. Maybe. That's all I have noticed.
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- GTP_demonblade
- GTP_demonblade
Good news! T500RS full support confirmed for Dirt 3 (7min 50sec). Also interesting to hear what they said about breaking G27's in testing!
http://www.insidesimracing.tv/videos/view/410/0/Inside-Sim-Racing-Episodes
http://www.insidesimracing.tv/videos/view/410/0/Inside-Sim-Racing-Episodes
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CM must have noticed some people concern about Dirt 2 impact on the G27 wheel (wear and tear) and really test it to see how much it could take. They want to reassure gamers that Dirt 3 will not break their G27. As far as Dirt 3 supporting TS500 ISR had stated this before.
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- DaveTheStalker
My wheel has been ordered from Amazon! Still not in stock, but mine is secured and I'll have it next day when shipped!
so at this point there are issues with FFB due to firmware and a faulty fan issue that scrapes the insides when it gets hot? also, the FFB weakens over time? how is everyones experience with TM been when trying to RMA or get replacement parts? how about when buying from 3rd parties?
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where to buy in the UK?
can anyone help??
can anyone help??
I don't think that's totally accurate based on what I can recall people are saying in this thread:
- I don't recall anybody actually having a problem with the FFB "due to firmware," if that's what you mean.
- a couple of us have reported an intermittent fan noise, but it is yet to be determined exactly what the cause is. I've tried to be very careful to say that I _think_ it sounds like scraping, but I don't know the real cause yet.
- some of us have reported the FFB being weaker than it originally was, but we don't know exactly why yet. Frankly, it is still not clear whether the cause is software or hardware, I have a theory I will test this weekend but I'm reticent to detail it here, lest someone read half of it and jump to conclusions from it.
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- DaveTheStalker
My nearest Fry's says they will have them on the 8th. At this point, whoever gets it in first will have my business!
As for defective units, they are being exchanges with the retailer. They have not been on the market long enough to have to deal with the manufacturer.
As for defective units, they are being exchanges with the retailer. They have not been on the market long enough to have to deal with the manufacturer.
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- JimmyLoops
A nice little update from a T500 owner here (me), I noticed this morning, after a long night of online racing, I now hear a very subtle winding chain noise when I turn the wheel left. Also, the FFB on the left side is actually a bit weaker when turning for the first few inches. When I turn the wheel to the right, I feel harder resistance right away.
Little stuff like this I exactly what I did not expect when I bought a 600 dollar steering wheel. Its extremely frustrating when I get problems specific to my product, and others claim there is nothing wrong with theirs.
I'm headed over to a Fry's store right now to pick up a new one, and then I'm upgrading the Firmware.
I should point out that regardless of my complaints, the wheel is amazing when I'm actually driving, and thats really what counts.
Little stuff like this I exactly what I did not expect when I bought a 600 dollar steering wheel. Its extremely frustrating when I get problems specific to my product, and others claim there is nothing wrong with theirs.
I'm headed over to a Fry's store right now to pick up a new one, and then I'm upgrading the Firmware.
I should point out that regardless of my complaints, the wheel is amazing when I'm actually driving, and thats really what counts.
AntDX316
So basically you just backed up my theory about the wheel looking at similar basic coding of every car. It doesn't really watch for load on the front wheels when braking and turning or the increasing downforce on the Oval of Daytona with an X1 of each mph or even the difference between setting maximum wing to minimum wing of cars with a complete aero kit, it just watches for speed threshold and conditions such as bumps and grass/runoff then determines how much FFB to apply.
What I just said is where GT5 has hit it's limitation. The PC has been doing the FFB conditions with downforce, front load weight, tire pressure density, suspension rate, all that stuff for years. GT5 is just a game for the masses of people who can't really afford to own a true racing simulator. Everyone saying every PC racing game is at standard or inferior to GT5 don't really know what they are talking about. To make matters worse, GT5's sound reproduction sounds nothing like real life. To get into detail it's because the PS3's sound reproduction capability is not really there. You need a dedicated sound card and/or a seriously fast processor to calculate such task or you can say bye bye to your constant frame rate when you have a lot of high quality audio going on at the same time.*****
LOLWUT! AntDX316 you are completely clueless on everything you just said, the PS3 has a dedicated sound card how the hell do you think it produces the quality of audio it does? People have compared it to $1,000 Blu Ray players and $500 sound cards over at AVSForums where myself am subscribed and have been for quite some time, being an audiophile myself there's no sound card you can buy for at least around $250 that will beat the PS3's internal but (obviously dedicated, I mean...really...?) sound card, finally, the Cell processor in the PS3 embarrasses even the fastest i7 you can buy at 176 useable GFLOPS (Google it) to just a puny 50 on the i7.
GT5's physics have been compared to rFactor and has indeed leveled w/ it, simple as that, there was even a Car and Driver issue about how GT5 is extremely accurate. Do some research next time.
So basically you just backed up my theory about the wheel looking at similar basic coding of every car. It doesn't really watch for load on the front wheels when braking and turning or the increasing downforce on the Oval of Daytona with an X1 of each mph or even the difference between setting maximum wing to minimum wing of cars with a complete aero kit, it just watches for speed threshold and conditions such as bumps and grass/runoff then determines how much FFB to apply.
What I just said is where GT5 has hit it's limitation. The PC has been doing the FFB conditions with downforce, front load weight, tire pressure density, suspension rate, all that stuff for years. GT5 is just a game for the masses of people who can't really afford to own a true racing simulator. Everyone saying every PC racing game is at standard or inferior to GT5 don't really know what they are talking about. To make matters worse, GT5's sound reproduction sounds nothing like real life. To get into detail it's because the PS3's sound reproduction capability is not really there. You need a dedicated sound card and/or a seriously fast processor to calculate such task or you can say bye bye to your constant frame rate when you have a lot of high quality audio going on at the same time.*****
LOLWUT! AntDX316 you are completely clueless on everything you just said, the PS3 has a dedicated sound card how the hell do you think it produces the quality of audio it does? People have compared it to $1,000 Blu Ray players and $500 sound cards over at AVSForums where myself am subscribed and have been for quite some time, being an audiophile myself there's no sound card you can buy for at least around $250 that will beat the PS3's internal but (obviously dedicated, I mean...really...?) sound card, finally, the Cell processor in the PS3 embarrasses even the fastest i7 you can buy at 176 useable GFLOPS (Google it) to just a puny 50 on the i7.
GT5's physics have been compared to rFactor and has indeed leveled w/ it, simple as that, there was even a Car and Driver issue about how GT5 is extremely accurate. Do some research next time.
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Just got off the phone with Frys. Will ship today and be here next Tuesday. I actually placed the order online Wednesday (very late in the evening) as a "pre-order". Frys left a message for me on Thursday that they wanted to verify some info (shipping address). I contacted them today and "BAM!".... they're shipping it out. BTW, Frys site has the T500 listed under the proper "Thrustmaster" as well as "Thrusmaster" (missing a "t"). It's still listed as a "pre-order" item.
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