The Worst Car in GT4

[niky]

No offence but that Tank Car is an absolute heap. It has no power and and weight more than a blue whale. How cool it looks is it's only good point. My 2 cent's.

Cheers,Cougar23

The tank car has lots of power. Around a thousand ponies at just 1500 rpms... how can that not be fun?

Unfortunately, it has the handling of a... well... errh... a tank.

Interesting car to drive on N2s. Absolutely useless, but interesting.

 

[Cougar23]

Yeah I think that's the main problem with it - A very dodgy package all up. Good power in a crap handling, heavy chassis.

 

[DK]

The Tank Car is about as useless on the track as an SUV is for getting the groceries. I'm pretty sure you can fit your shopping into an Impreza. Plus, it isn't going to get egged by Greenpeace.

 

[granturismohero]

It does reach 170 mph though.

 

[DK]

Yes, but so can a Nissan Skyline GT-R with little or no tuning. And just over a third of the power, too.

 

[Giygas]

It's a special car, so it doesn't belong on this list.

 

[Bieniu]

the worst by far would be the cizeta.. really, I have never driven any car that's more of a crap than this one.

 

[Giygas]

I see how you feel. it looks like a Lamborghini with downs syndrome, and drives like it's carrying a bunch of camping equipment on the roof.

Still, the Camaro SS is worse.

 

[dxm8975]

The tank car is useless for driving at circuits.

 

[Shoogar]

I was just thinking.. If the Tank Car is so rubbish for circuit tracks and it's very heavy, why make it the prize for beating one of the hardest racing challenges in the game? (All 40 )

 

[White & Nerdy]

My hatelist...

The Nike ONE. It drives like a boat, and the engine sound would make a deaf man puke!
The blue Subaru 360. A very poor reward for what would seem to be an agonizing championship.
The pink 2CV. Not only is the color completely unsuitable for most of us, but my lawnmower literally has more power than that thing. Waste of a legitimate championship.
The Honda Z ACT. It makes a lot of noise, but it doesn't go anywhere.
All those little Kei Cars with like 63 horsepower (probably more but Japanese policymakers were very adamant about HP until a few years ago).
Everything below those little Kei Cars. It's a RACING GAME for cryin out loud! What's the point?
All hybrids, especially the Toyota Prius. That's like the ultimate "LOOK AT ME I'M SAVING THE PLANET!" car.
The Corvette ZR1. GT2 had the 405 HP version, why use the 385 version here.
The Corvette Z06. Between GT3 and 4 this car was bumped to 405 horsepower so why use the 385hp '01 version?

 

[Giygas]

Hmm... interesting list you have there. You seem to really hate those old slow cars.

My hatelist:
2000 Corvette C5R: too good for JGTC, too poor for LM race cars.
2000 Camaro SS:Everything.
Honda Nsx-r lm race car: Shifting sucks here, the road car would be just as fast with a good driver behind the wheel
Chapparal 2J: Yes, i know what you're thinking.I hate this only in a-spec, and this is the only car i would let b-spec exclusively drive.
Mercedes Sl65: If the Audi Nuvolari wasn't here, i would like this.

 

[White & Nerdy]

More...

BMW 330i. No, seriously. Try driving that thing on the Test Course or Le Sarthe. BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Sounds like a 4cyl with open headers
Honda Element. Not only did they use the automatic version for no earthly reason, but they failed royally on the gearing. 90mph in first gear, and I've heard the transmission range allows for 350mph. The real flying brick.
Scion xB. Hey look, I'm driving a fridge!
Honda Fit. I hate CVTs, enough said. Plus their new ad campaign reeks of low IQ.
Nissan Cube. Need I say more?
Trial Celica. Ultimate ricer, all it needs to be complete is VTAK. It unimpresses me with its worthless buzzcan, Altezza lights, and super spoiler on a FWD. I could go on.
Cizeta V16T. I've been hearing noise about this car, and the general consesus is a sports car with too much engine. I once tried to uber La Festa Italiano with it, and quit within the first lap becase I was losing so badly (to Alfa 156s I might add). Enough said.
Plymouth Prowler. Honestly, I'm at a loss as to why you can't compete in GT mode with it. Plus, it was only ever available with a 4spd auto, highly improper for that type of car.

I could probably give you more, but I don't have time to plumb the depths of my hatred for them.

 

[Rykon Zero]

Did you try to race the Trial Celica? That is one of the best FWDs in the game.

 

[DK]

Plymouth Prowler. Honestly, I'm at a loss as to why you can't compete in GT mode with it. Plus, it was only ever available with a 4spd auto, highly improper for that type of car.

It's a shameless knock-off of an old hot rod from the days when everybody was crapping themselves over the Soviet Union. A four-speed transmission is probably a hark back to the days when all American cars had a four-speed 'box.

 

[dxm8975]

I was just thinking.. If the Tank Car is so rubbish for circuit tracks and it's very heavy, why make it the prize for beating one of the hardest racing challenges in the game? (All 40 )

Hmm.. Mr. Yamauchi just wanted to make it to be so? It's a strange(Different from other cars in weight, shape and so on...) car so I guess he thought it'd be good as a present car for the LAST 3 lap challenge? Maybe...

 

[Lucas]

Cizeta V16T. I've been hearing noise about this car, and the general consesus is a sports car with too much engine. I once tried to uber La Festa Italiano with it, and quit within the first lap becase I was losing so badly (to Alfa 156s I might add). Enough said.

Man, if you are not exaggerating, you suck pretty bad. Not the car's fault at all.

 

[dylansan]

Nissan Cube. Need I say more?

Yes.
Is it just because it's shaped like a cube, or is there something you genuinely dislike about the car that makes it one of "the worst car in GT4?"

As you might tell, I love the cube - maybe because of it's interesting design, maybe because I managed to get it to rally pretty well, maybe it's just fun to race.

Sorry for the rant, but it irks me when people hate small cubey cars just because of their looks. Just curious, did you actually try racing it?

 

[White & Nerdy]

No, and I don't intend to. While the xB looks like a fridge, the Cube looks like the designers took their block of clay, cut a notch out of it, and called it a car. Maybe they hadn't had their coffee yet?

And it's slow as heck.

As for the Cizeta, well yes I did suck pretty badly. But the car still has hell's understeer. Feels like a "jet powered bus" to steal a phrase.

 

[niky]

More...

BMW 330i. No, seriously. Try driving that thing on the Test Course or Le Sarthe. BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Sounds like a 4cyl with open headers

And it handles better than most other cars in its general class. Wait... you're judging road cars by how they drive... on the Test Course?!?

Honda Fit. I hate CVTs, enough said. Plus their new ad campaign reeks of low IQ.

Unfortunately, PD didn't bother to actually model the "Sport Mode" of the CVT, which is much better than the "D" mode we get in the game.

I didn't realize the advertising was hidden in the game. Go Honda. Kill our brain cells.

Nissan Cube. Need I say more?

You hate boxy cars, period? You can just say it, you know.

Trial Celica. Ultimate ricer, all it needs to be complete is VTAK. It unimpresses me with its worthless buzzcan, Altezza lights, and super spoiler on a FWD. I could go on.

Go on not driving it, you mean, because it doesn't sound like you have. The Trial Celica is pretty fast. Snap-oversteer on command, very neutral balance, excellent traction (despite being FWD), very good lap times for the weight and power.

Cizeta V16T. I've been hearing noise about this car, and the general consesus is a sports car with too much engine. I once tried to uber La Festa Italiano with it, and quit within the first lap becase I was losing so badly (to Alfa 156s I might add). Enough said.

Yes, unfortunately, it's a terrible car. But still quite fun if you know what to do with a car that, quite stupidly, has two V8s slung out over the rear axle.



The joy of Gran Turismo is not only in racing to win. If that were the case, you'd simply buy the fastest racecar possible and blitz through the game in a week.

No, the joy is in discovering the quirks and personalities of all 400+ cars in the game and learning how to drive them properly. Even such seemingly similar items as the boxer-6 Legacy and the Legacy B-Spec have their own distinct driving styles... and the G35 Coupe and 350Z also require a different approach. I can't claim to have driven all of the cars in GT (probably just 200-300 of them), but while some are onerously slow and others handle quite badly, I've found a sort of fulfillment in trying most of them out and tuning them to see what potential they have.

Even the Dodge Laramie 4x4. No grip. Way too much weight. Steering like a... truck... and more understeer than the Titanic. But AWD, at least. Still haven't gotten a good time on the ring... yet... ...strangely... very few people have nominated it...

 

[White & Nerdy]

The 330i. You yourself did a writeup on it and it was squarely in the middle of its class at Infineon, bested by the Legacy 2.0GT (which looks better to boot). And I personally can't stand the sound of it at high RPMs. Turn the sound off I guess?

The Fit. Advertising isn't hidden in the game, but if you'd seen Honda's recent ads for the Fit you'd probably boycott them completely.

The Celica. It may very well be the best FWD car in the game, but I have principles to uphold

 

[niky]

Whatever these principles, the Celica is still far from the worst, in any respect, amongst any number of cars of similar power and size.

And whatever the advertising, it has nothing to do with GT4. I grant, though, that locking the CVT in "D" mode has got to be one of the worst decisions of the game in terms of transmission modelling. Even worse than sticking some of the other cars with 4-speed automatics even if manual versions are available in real-life.

And I still don't get why they refused to model the Fit Sport variant, which had better tires (more grip) and a stronger engine. Here's to hoping the Fit that makes it into GT5 won't just be the new generation one, but the first generation facelift, as that's the best one. The new one isn't terrible, but it isn't very much fun compared to the facelifted GD. (hint: no more lift-off oversteer).

The BMW came mid-pack in terms of lap-times, yes, but it had great handling. Issues of outright speed are answered quite easily by A-Spec balancing (in GT4) and, in GT5P (and presumably in GT5), more effectively by PP-balancing. It's not the best, but far from the worst.

As we've seen in GT5P, with properly implemented balancing systems, cars with naturally good handling but with a power handicap are preferable to cars with good power but tricky handling, once tuned.

Oh well... carry on.

 

[Ya21]

Saleen S7. That thing just dosen't turn!

 

[Remy Zero]

Saleen S7. That thing just dosen't turn!

Are you sure? Among the supercars in GT4, that together with the VW Nardo are the best handling car in their classes.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Are you sure? Among the supercars in GT4, that together with the VW Nardo are the best handling car in their classes.

I would disagree. The Saleen is terribly understeery. MY opinion is PD didn't represent its high-speed handling accurately: the real-life S7 is supposed to generate so much downforce at high speeds, it can theoretically be driven upside-down.

In the game, S7s don't seem like they're generating this kind of downforce. Like I said they just get more and more understeery with speed, no matter what settings are used.

I've never tried the Nardo yet, but the Pagani is better with high speeds; almost drives like a true race car; PD obviously represented its aerodynamics better. Much less understeer.

 

[Lucas]

MY opinion is PD didn't represent its high-speed handling accurately: the real-life S7 is supposed to generate so much downforce at high speeds, it can theoretically be driven upside-down.

In the game, S7s dont' seem like they're generating this kind of downforce. Like I said they just get more and more understeery with speed, no matter what settings are used.

Déjà vu.

I swear I have seen you say this before, with the same "upside-down" remark.

EDIT:

On topic now (sort of), I just want to add I was extremely disappointed with the S7. I don't think PD got it right. It's supposed to generate tons (literally) of downforce as speed rises, to the point that it's theoretically supposed to be possible to drive it upside down in real-life. But the way it is in the game, the Saleen S7 just understeers more and more as speed rises. 👎 Annoyingly. And its brakes suck, too.....nothing like I've read the real-life car is supposed to be. 👎

Tried to buy a wing kit, but no--it's a "car that cannot accept a wing" or whatever. It winds up being too powerful for alot of races, but too crappy to drive for the races in which its power would be more competitive.

 

[Giygas]

The Panoz Esperante is an ok car. With over 700 horsepower, you would think it could beat a Mclaren Gt-r. Or maybe the Mclaren is just great...

Its the same deal with the Camaro Lm race car. 600 horses and it would struggle in the Suzuka 1000m race.

 

[Ya21]

I would disagree. The Saleen is terribly understeery. MY opinion is PD didn't represent its high-speed handling accurately: the real-life S7 is supposed to generate so much downforce at high speeds, it can theoretically be driven upside-down.

In the game, S7s dont' seem like they're generating this kind of downforce. Like I said they just get more and more understeery with speed, no matter what settings are used.

Agreed. The understeer is OMFGsodamnhorriblethatIwannakillmyself (Okay, maybe i'm overexagerating)

 

[Ya21]

hmm... Interesting list you have there. You seem to really hate those old slow cars.

My hatelist:
2000 corvette c5r: Too good for jgtc, too poor for lm race cars.
2000 camaro ss:everything.
Honda nsx-r lm race car: Shifting sucks here, the road car would be just as fast with a good driver behind the wheel
chapparal 2j: Yes, i know what you're thinking.i hate this only in a-spec, and this is the only car i would let b-spec exclusively drive.
Mercedes sl65: If the audi nuvolari wasn't here, i would like this.

extreme disagreement

 

[Remy Zero]

I would disagree. The Saleen is terribly understeery. MY opinion is PD didn't represent its high-speed handling accurately: the real-life S7 is supposed to generate so much downforce at high speeds, it can theoretically be driven upside-down.

In the game, S7s dont' seem like they're generating this kind of downforce. Like I said they just get more and more understeery with speed, no matter what settings are used.

I've never tried the NArdo yet, but the Pagani better with high speeds; almost drives like a true race car; PD obviously represented its aerodynamics better. Much less understeer.

Hehe..Your and I are just the opposite mate

I can't seem to stand the Zonda. I've tried it at a bunch of races, including the 4 hour Nurburgring Enduro. Not very convincing. The Saleen, meanwhile, just seem to handle beautifully for me.

Regarding the VW, you should give it a shot. I took it for the 200 mile NY race.