The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

[Live25]

I still don't see the "variable" weather in LeMans that others mention. Every time I do it, it's rain after 2 laps. Sure, sometimes it comes at the end of lap 2 and sometimes it starts near the beginning of lap three, but it's always about the same within 20-30 seconds.

It comes in at all kinds of crazy times for me. Most of the time late L2-early L3, but sometimes as late as the end of L3.

My real issue is the amount of water on the track for the rain that has actually fallen or a very light indicator on the weather map and/or pretty clear skies with an abnormally high amount of water on the track.

How is that weather map suggestive of 2 bars of water when it literally just hit the track? Note: this is near the end of L3. Look at my position and time, this lap wasn’t completed until 6:15.6, that’s insane.

This is the SAME race. Unfortunately I didn’t have the weather map up here, but no additional rain fell after what you see above. The rain ended midway through L4, but the track stayed saturated clear through to the end of the race, 2.5 laps! Granted, I never changed tires, but that weather map gave me all the confidence to support that decision. I just laid up and let the timer tick I was so frustrated.

That little cloud is 1.5 bars, really? Note: this rain didn’t show up until nearly the end of L5 and I never swapped tires as I never had any real indication to do so. In fact, all indicators supported my decision to NOT change tires.

Nearly 2 laps later and this is what’s left of that little cloud, unbelievable.

There is simply no way to adequately forecast what the game is going to decide with regards to the weather, that’s what gets me and as you can see from my early laps in the 2nd race, it literally hoses me out of good lap and overall times.

 

[gd224]

Just did this today with Escudo. Was nerve racking and was slow on the straights but managed to hang on to win. Pitted early after a mistake on the last hairpin on lap 3. Still rather grind on Sardenga than this race.

 

[Doncarlone]

Just did this today with Escudo. Was nerve racking and was slow on the straights but managed to hang on to win. Pitted early after a mistake on the last hairpin on lap 3. Still rather grind on Sardenga than this race.

I know the feeling. Escudo didnt do great in my hands either

 

[pedrocor]

A couple of observations ive made.The AMG A45,if i run it with anti lag installed,FM1,i can only get to end of lap 6 before i need to refuel,however if i run the same race on FM1 with anti lag removed i can refuel end of lap 8.To be honest not wishing to sound stupid but i didnt realise it affected fuel consumption,im not sure if it applies to all anti lag installed cars.

An anti lag system consists, in simplified terms, on injecting fuel to exhaust manifold off throttle and at low revs just to that burning fuel keep the hot air flow coming to turbo and keep it high revving. So, obviously messes up with fuel consumption and isn't usually used on endurance or on the eighties F1 turbo generation (they had capped fuel capacity for the race distance), being used mainly in sprint races and specially rally cars.
Nowadays F1 or LMP-Hybrid are using electrical energy to keep the turbos revving, from the energy recovering systems without burning extra fuel.

I still don't see the "variable" weather in LeMans that others mention. Every time I do it, it's rain after 2 laps. Sure, sometimes it comes at the end of lap 2 and sometimes it starts near the beginning of lap three, but it's always about the same within 20-30 seconds.

Start on Racing Hard - Go to Full Wet - Switch back when the weather clears for the last lap or two.


I always noticed that they were on a mix. They always keep the same tires though. I have never seen any of them go from soft to hard, for example.

First things first, the sky always get overcast by lap two and you get rain on the radar. But after that there all a bunch of possible things happening. About half the times (and this was my favourite grinding despite Cr/min being lower than Sardegna or Tokyo) I didn't even need to change from the racing hards I started and could do 8 laps easily. Also had times that only really needed Inters/wets by lap 4 and gone to the finish on one stop. Others the hell broke loose and and only managed 6 laps.

 

[Voodoovaj]

First things first, the sky always get overcast by lap two and you get rain on the radar. But after that there all a bunch of possible things happening. About half the times (and this was my favourite grinding despite Cr/min being lower than Sardegna or Tokyo) I didn't even need to change from the racing hards I started and could do 8 laps easily. Also had times that only really needed Inters/wets by lap 4 and gone to the finish on one stop. Others the hell broke loose and and only managed 6 laps.

It comes in at all kinds of crazy times for me. Most of the time late L2-early L3, but sometimes as late as the end of L3.
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There is simply no way to adequately forecast what the game is going to decide with regards to the weather, that’s what gets me and as you can see from my early laps in the 2nd race, it literally hoses me out of good lap and overall times.

Maybe it's me...Maybe I'm just lucky.

The most "variable" that I have seen was a very light patch coming in (again, beginning of lap 3) so I stayed out on hard tires. I could see that a second round of rain was coming in a few laps. I judged it to be coming around the end of lap 5, and it did, so I did about 1/4 of a lap in heavy rain with the hard tires, but I had about 1:22 of a lead so I just eased it into the pits.

The 787 swapped Mazda rules this event!! I run 4.5:1 gearing to keep the revs up and in the powerband. That helps the wheelspin.


BUT, I digress, this is about Tokyo, and I hate all the Tokyo races. It's the track I like the least (go figure it's the one they jammed full of events ). I like the Diablo GT on SS for this event but I really should try some others.

 

[Sunzi]

Brief taster with the SMs is tempting me to run it again - I'm thinking to remove the High RPM Turbo for SMs, and add the Racing filter, header, intercooler and muffler instead. I won't have the pace but the exceptional handling leads me to believe I stand a chance with about 395HP on SMs compared with around 470+ on SHs. Up for the challenge.

So I managed this! Definitely prefer a 385HP Amemiya on SMs to a 484HP Amemiya on SHs.

In both cases the car tops out at 178MPH so you're always losing pace - the grippier SM build was not only more fun and engaging but allowed me to keep the pace in the twistier mid-sections of the circuit. I'd lose pace on the straight but maintain/make it back through the sweeping corners.

Definitely the most fun car so far.

Also cruised to a simple win in the BNR34. Next stop '97 Supra RZ

 

[TumeK5]

Also did a race with an engine swapped Tundra.

 

[mynameis66]

So I managed this! Definitely prefer a 385HP Amemiya on SMs to a 484HP Amemiya on SHs.

In both cases the car tops out at 178MPH so you're always losing pace - the grippier SM build was not only more fun and engaging but allowed me to keep the pace in the twistier mid-sections of the circuit. I'd lose pace on the straight but maintain/make it back through the sweeping corners.

Definitely the most fun car so far.

Also cruised to a simple win in the BNR34. Next stop '97 Supra RZ

What is annoying is the ai in the same car still overtakes me on the straight.Where does he get his extra oomph from?

 

[engrmariano]

It seems impossible to squeeze more than 180MPH out of the Amemiya; nevertheless, I scored a second place before winning it at the second attempt.

The Amemiya on SMs is just incredible but because of the default aero, presumably, there's very little spare PP to increase the power on SHs let alone SMs once you've added the Racing Transmission (in an attempt to increase the top speed) and/or the High RPM Turbo (wish I had the Ultra High).

As I say, won it but by virtue of a short one stop, needing only 2 laps of fuel courtesy of short-shifting to keep in the power band, and using SHs. I personally couldn't do it on outright pace but a combination of supreme handling, excellent consumption and superb default brakes enabled me to stay in the fight and essentially pick off the frontrunners as they pitted.

Brief taster with the SMs is tempting me to run it again - I'm thinking to remove the High RPM Turbo for SMs, and add the Racing filter, header, intercooler and muffler instead. I won't have the pace but the exceptional handling leads me to believe I stand a chance with about 395HP on SMs compared with around 470+ on SHs. Up for the challenge.

i have the ultra high and it’s slower. changed back to high to won. RT is not impressive at somewhere 27:50 i think.

 

[The_It_Jojo]

Where does he get his extra oomph from?

The ai most likely has access to the "turbo" option that you see when you set up a custom race, aka, they get more speed and more grip in that way, I know the ai at the gr.1 race at Suzuka benefits from that.

 

[Meythia]

What is annoying is the ai in the same car still overtakes me on the straight.Where does he get his extra oomph from?

Are you sure you are running the exact same setup as the AI car?
I wouldnt be sure on my part, too much variables, and the cars definitly are not on default settings (some would have too high PP values this way).

 

[mynameis66]

Are you sure you are running the exact same setup as the AI car?
I wouldnt be sure on my part, too much variables, and the cars definitly are not on default settings (some would have too high PP values this way).

I agree.I was running SH to keep the pp lower,he was on SS so his pp shouldnt allow more power but still he comes past me.

 

[BWM]

Sorry for my bad English.

(All on hard difficulties)

Did this with some less common choices for fun.
Most are no pitting because i like non stop driving without worrying lap counts.

light on tires nice to drive out the box(most of the setting not adjustable anyway)

Tried on SH and no pit with LSD, but just can't get the setting right. (no wing because it looks ugly on it)
So did it on SM without LSD instead, need 1 pit stop and close finish.
Extreme caution needed to drive a no LSD, little down force classic car on wet.

Hard but everything felt like a dream to drive after the e-type nightmare.

The ND is capable without engine swap. It is light enough SM tires can last for the whole race.


For sport tires run Tried some FWD (Scirocco, Civic, Megane) and the Tundra.


Love the MX5 way forcing on cornering speed made me tried some more low power options.
With Racing tires it opens up the list of candidates for this event.
Be careful only drive on the dry line and be patient in the first few laps for overtaking.

One of my recent favorites. Stable and grippy like a go kart even with my bad tuning skills.

RWD are OK too. But less forgiving if you touch the wet parts.

 

[Doncarlone]

Tried ford gt40, ford markIV, ferrari 330p4, porsche 917k and audi TT (the newer of the 2).
Only the audi tt fully tuned, the rest was only non permanent parts.
All were absolute monsters. Recommended.

 

[RCKakashi14]

Did another attempt with the DP-100 VGT. Managed to improve the times.

Shifting the ballast at the front makes a huge difference in stability.

 

[styrkv]

The Roadster '15 engine swap, with Praianos tune for Roadster '89 engine swap is realy fast,
but a handful.
High 2:03. Shortshifting at 6200rpm. (Max power). Careful with throttle.
FM 1, 1 stop for fuel and tires. Had to use TC 1.
I have changed the front downforce and gearbox settings.

 

[johnson_57]

After getting board with grinding Sardegna and Sarthe I started racing Tokyo again. I Stopped chasing the best lap and race times and began trying different cars to see what I can win it with. With some of them I won by 2 or 3 seconds and with some by more than a minute. So far I have won the race with all these cars. 🏁 🏁

 

[mynameis66]

After getting board with grinding Sardegna and Sarthe I started racing Tokyo again. I Stopped chasing the best lap and race times and began trying different cars to see what I can win it with. With some of them I won by 2 or 3 seconds and with some by more than a minute. So far I have won the race with all these cars. 🏁 🏁

This is what i started doing about 5 weeks ago,after the tomohawk was fixed.Ive got all the LCD cars and in game cars i wanted so technically im just hotlapping for 12 laps with different cars,some i can win with others ive come second or third but back to having fun which is the end game.Alternating with Le Mans and Sardegna.

 

[engrmariano]

FXX K

 

[engrmariano]

Tuscan

 

[engrmariano]

is this the fastest mclaren F1 race time?

 

[Gazoline19]

is this the fastest mclaren F1 race

Seems extremely likely in my eyes!!!

 

[johnson_57]

is this the fastest mclaren F1 race time?View attachment 1175179

That is fast ! Would you mind sharing your tune ? My time with the F1 is usually low 27min with 2:11ish lap times.

 

[mynameis66]

FXX K
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Any chance you could share your tunes for these cars? 👍

 

[ROCKET JOE]

So my third race with the Alpine was the first clean no-contact run without penalties. 👍
I'm still far from feeling at home in the car, but everything looks very promising :
RT 25:06
FL 1:56.7
Assists ABS standard and TCS 1

Kudos to @z06fun for the gearing. 👍

 

[engrmariano]

Any chance you could share your tunes for these cars? 👍

 

[johnson_57]

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I Used your tune and did win the race. But sorry to say that for me it's a horrible drive with those way out toe angles. Do you use a wheel ? Because keeping that car on the track with a DS4 is quite a mission. I Would still like to see your F1 tune please.

 

[engrmariano]

RX787B sub 26mins
tune👉🏻 + wide body & wheel.

 

[mynameis66]

RX787B sub 26mins
tune👉🏻 + wide body & wheel.
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The cars a missile,please dont take offence but why are you not able to keep a straight line? Is this down to the tune your using?The ferrari tune you posted was quite hard to drive for me,im on a controller though.

Ive answered my own question now,i spent some time with the RX787B and was unable to keep it on the straight and narrow.I take my hat off to you for doing it for 12 laps,obviously down to the toe angles and ride height,i altered the set up so now am able to use it on Le Mans at 700pp.Totally beat the rest,200mph top speed. 👍

 

[Sunzi]

The cars a missile,please dont take offence but why are you not able to keep a straight line? Is this down to the tune your using?The ferrari tune you posted was quite hard to drive for me,im on a controller though.

Ive answered my own question now,i spent some time with the RX787B and was unable to keep it on the straight and narrow.I take my hat off to you for doing it for 12 laps,obviously down to the toe angles and ride height,i altered the set up so now am able to use it on Le Mans at 700pp.Totally beat the rest,200mph top speed. 👍

I have a very controlled RX787B tune but it's designed for handling, not power. It's still fast and a simple win but it's not an overpowered monster or cheese grater.