The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

[shadow0460]

For Tokyo you need to average 100PH in the turns and hit 190 on the straight.
I've won it with an RX-7 and a Murceilago. The RX-7 has a 26B engine and both cars have all the "permanent" mods done.
If you run the current Tomahawk exploit you'll learn the key to this race is grip on the turns. You don't need blazing speed for it, just a top end suitable for tracks like Route 5, High Speed Ring, and Grand Valley (when it shows up). If you're new to GT7 but played older versions, those are the older tracks your top end will be closest to, probably a bit higher than Grand Valley but a bit lower than HSR. For those new to GT7, tune similar to what you would for the current Deep Forest or High Speed Ring.

Some Lamborghini's.

Huracan LP 610
Aventador LP 750
Veneno

They are all excellent performers in the Tokyo race. I Do prefer the Aventador though, it handles really well and is a pleasure to drive for me.

Add the Murceilago to your list. I put it up on YouTube yesterday.

 

[GluteGobbler]

Did 2 more races. This time ferrari 330p4 and nissan gtr '17.
For 330p4, PD just screwed up my tune. It became understeery to the point i had to brake in corners where I didnt need before update. And I got like 20s slower than before update. Really needs a retune now.
For gtr, the timer was close to what it was before. The awd cars still rule.

I'm starting to think the aligator tune (if you dont know what an aligator tune is: its where you make the front of the car higher than the rear) was massively nerfed. Was made much more understeery after update, causing a noticable decrease in performance.
Aligator tune was always understeery, but before the update it wasnt has bad. The extra HP and weight decrease would heavily compensate for the understeer.
Now, after the update, the understeer os almost unbearable.
Probably gonna go for alternatives.

Mind sharing your GTR tune?

 

[Arkseven]

Tried the Viper GTS 13' today and what a car. It's so fast. No need to change anything since it's already close to the 600pp.

FM 6 during the the first 2 laps, then FM 1 for the rest of the race, pitting for new tires and fuel at lap 7-8. Easy win. The only downside is that the car is so fast that I had to brake way before the 200m mark at turn 1. I got a penalty at lap 10, so I can't precisely say what could be the total race time, but even with a penalty I finished 30 seconds ahead of 2nd place.

Also, with the pp adjusments from 1.20 update, the Mercedes SLR Mclaren is now at 598pp by default. Tried this car last night and it's also a comfortable win. A little too heavy during the first 2 laps like the Viper, but after that I had a pleasant drive.
Just like the Viper, FM 6 during the first 2 laps and then FM 1, pitting for new tires and fuel at lap 7. Race time of 27:27 minutes, but again, not an accurate time because I had way too much minor contacts and consequentely damage on my wheels.

Both of these cars can reach 315 km/h exiting the tunnel and almost 330 km/h at turn 1.

I'd say they're good stock choices, like the Diablo or the GT-R R35.


@walnut3 the Evo V is the only car I got a sub-27. The R33 comes close with a time of 27:07. Both of them with RH tires.

 

[The_It_Jojo]

Note to self: do not use an engine swapped Volkswagen Beetle for this event since it will wheelie.

 

[Arkseven]

I found a very nice and detailed book about Ferrari and it gave me an idea to test one Ferrari cars at this race. The Ferrari 250 is also currently available at the LCD for 8.3 mil and since I was set to only 100k credits after buying the Shelby Daytona, I decided to grind this race with only Ferraris!

Rules are simple this time: no Weight Reduction or Engine upgrades, normal custom gearbox (if needed), sports/racing filter and/or sports silencer (optional) and finally Custom ECU (to help with acceleration or to decrease power).

I have to say that all of those cars are amazing. They all are pretty damn good and very satisfying to drive around Tokyo.

Let's begin! again using imgur, so here's hope to no broken links!

365 GTB4:

Custom gear box needed for a max speed of 300 km/h (mine is set at 310 km/h). Custom ECU with Racing Filter.

This is a good car with a good handling. There's a tendency to oversteer, but it's no big deal. Need to be a little careful for the first 4 laps. After that you can pretty much go full power. My strategy is FM1, Sport Medium tires with 1 pitstop. As you can see by the total race time, it's kinda close to the second place, but I really didn't felt I was under pressure. A bit slow in the long straight, but fast at corners. Overall, sounds amazing and it's a fun drive!


512BB:

This car is a little difficulty to control. Custom gearbox needed (mine is set at 300 km/h), Sports Silencer and Sports Filter.

Strategy was same as above: SM tires, FM 1, 1-stop. There's power and it's fast on the main straight, the problem is that this car is too slippery! It enters every corner with an angle and it's most noticeable at turns 9 and 10. It's fun because it's a mix of drif and powerslide, but it's also bad for lap times. Not a hard car to control, but it's a car that requires small corrections almost every time and that's why I got a 27:41 time.


GTO:

FAST! This Ferrari is very fast. Unfortunately I couldn't find a proper way to race with the 308 GTB, but comparing the 308 with this car, both of them are like missiles!

A custom gearbox can help, but it's not necessary to win. I'm only using ECU and Sports Filter. You can either use Sports Hard or Sports Medium. This car is actually quite ok for fuel efficiency, so if you want a no-stop strategy, go with Sports Hard. I was using SH with a 1-stop strategy in the pic above. Using SM for 1-stop in this case is more preferable.
This car is more stable than I thought, especially since it's a small MR car. Not hard to drive at all, it's actually very pleasant and safe. At the S-bend turn, just ease off a very tiny bit and the car will follow nicely.


Testarossa:

Where are the beaches? This ain't no beach, this is an expressway! Wait, are you hearing that smooth, deep Vaporwave?

Ah, the Testarossa. What an ugly ca— I mean damn, this car is fast! I like the looks of this car, but it's so... "different"?
It's beautiful at the same time is kinda... not pretty? Well anyway! This is one of the fastest Ferraris for this race, especially because it's possible to use Racing Hard tires!

On the pic above the car is completely stock, racing only with RH tires. I got a penalty on the last lap, so the race time and difference to second place should be higher, like more than 40 seconds.

There's space to use Sports Filter or Silencer, should you want to. I got the fastest lap of the race with 2:09.692. Two strategies available, both of them works: SH/RH with no stop or SM with one stop. Safe on SM and extra safe with RH. Just go for it, full send, don't look back. You can trust this car like you trust the view of a sunset in a beach.


F50:

This is quite simply a racing car and that's it. Did you read above that you can trust the Testarossa? Alright, do the same to this car because holy Ferrari, this thing is glued to the ground!

Only upgrades are the Custom ECU to reduce power and ballast to reduce PP. Detuning is not very impactful on this car. It's still very fast and like I said, it go around corners like it's on rails. I don't think a no-stop strategy is worth, because it requires FM5-6 to be able to do all 12 laps. In this case, using SH/SM tires with 1-stop is much faster. Easy win.

I should have a better race time with this car, but, I tried to squeeze one more lap from the SM tires and let's just say it wasn't a great decision!

F430:

The F430 is already on the limit of 600pp. Custom gearbox is needed because the default one locks you at a slow max speed (very slow for a car like this, if I may say).

There's space to use SM tires with Racing Filter and a no-strop strategy works with SH tires. It's a bit too slow and heavy on corners compared to the others, but it's fast on the main straight with a max speed of 320 km/h! I really like this car. I have fond memories driving it from GT5 and Ferrari Challenge.

Many say this is an "entry-level" Ferrari. Well, it's a damn good and pretty Ferrari for something that is called "entry-level".


458 Italia:

In my opinion, the best Ferrari for this race! Seriously, what an amazing car. It's fast like the F430 and it's on rails like the F50. You can't go wrong with this one. It's just a bit above 600pp, so detuning with ballast and engine/ecu power is not very impactful. My 458 is completely stock with SM tires.

Like the F50, I think a 1-stop strategy works better than a no-stop, because at FM 1 this car is literally flying around Tokyo. It's very, very safe. It handles like a dream and the sound is one of the best in the game. Interior view is also very pretty! 10/10, definitely one of my favorites. It's up there in my list, together with the Evo V!


F12berlinetta:

Everything that I said above can be said to this car, except that this one is a tiny bit nervous. A very tiny bit of oversteer, but it's still safe, offering a relax and smooth drive.

It's the fastest car on the main straight, but a tiny bit slow on the corners compared to the 458. Feels weird to bring this car to this event, because obviously this one should race at +700pp. No need to change anything, car is perfect on default settings. Easy win with SM and 1-stop (way easy, if I might say).

My only "problem" with this car is that the 599 Fiorano is still my favorite.


F8 Tributo:

The F8 Tributo is the slowest Ferrari on this list for this race because it needs so much detuning that is not worth at all. 200 kg of ballast, ECU and engine detuned to 75%. That's what you need to reach 599pp. So slow that I could barely reach 300 km/h. Don't even think about a no-stop strategy. You will barely reach 280 using the Fuel Map.

I'm not disappointed because this car obviously belongs to somewhere else. Somewhere it can truly unleash it's full potential, like Gr3 or Hyper Car events.



Alright, that's it. This was fun! After all of that, this beauty is finally mine!

Call me weird, but up until now I really didn't care that much for Ferraris. What a mistake! Those cars are amazing, I'm in love with them.

It's a real shame I couldn't find a way to drive the 308 GTB without permanent upgrades. The car goes like a missile in the corners, but it's way too slow on the straight.

I also couldn't drive the F40 because I'm using a 700pp tune with engine and body upgrades. Do you know how much it costs to reset these upgrades? More than 4 million credits! (chassi is 3+ million, engine is 1+ million).

After all of this, I missing the 599. Damn PD, give me the 599! It's so beautiful, elegant, majestic...

 

[RCKakashi14]

Managed to improve the time thanks to PP adjustments.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Does anyone have any tunes with cars that can go the full distance without pitting? Been using the Huracan Gr.4 to grind this event, just wanted to share my setup. I based this from an Alfa 155 tune I got from Youtube (forgot the video name and channel), but unlike the Alfa wherein I needed to stop for fuel, with this Huracan and the tune I can go the full race distance without pitting and manage to get 2:12 or 2:13 laps without any AI cars in the way (2:11 if I try hard enough and nail the corners).

Tips on driving this tune:

• You can stay at Fuel Map 1, but shift up at around 7800-8200 rpm to make the fuel last throughout the whole race
• You can go beyond 8200 rpm when shifting up, provided you watch your fuel and end up having quite a bit of extra at the halfway point of the race
• Be careful on corner entries, as the front end tends to oversteer when turning in after hard braking. You can play around with the front damper settings to suit your driving style, but I can work with the values on my tune.

Expectations:

• At the halfway point, tire wear will suddenly go faster, so again, be ginger with corner entries
• At the end of the race, the tires will be quite shredded with 35% or so remaining

 

[mynameis66]

Does anyone have any tunes with cars that can go the full distance without pitting? Been using the Huracan Gr.4 to grind this event, just wanted to share my setup. I based this from an Alfa 155 tune I got from Youtube (forgot the video name and channel), but unlike the Alfa wherein I needed to stop for fuel, with this Huracan and the tune I can go the full race distance without pitting and manage to get 2:12 or 2:13 laps without any AI cars in the way (2:11 if I try hard enough and nail the corners).

Tips on driving this tune:

• You can stay at Fuel Map 1, but shift up at around 7800-8200 rpm to make the fuel last throughout the whole race
• You can go beyond 8200 rpm when shifting up, provided you watch your fuel and end up having quite a bit of extra at the halfway point of the race
• Be careful on corner entries, as the front end tends to oversteer when turning in after hard braking. You can play around with the front damper settings to suit your driving style, but I can work with the values on my tune.

Expectations:

• At the halfway point, tire wear will suddenly go faster, so again, be ginger with corner entries
• At the end of the race, the tires will be quite shredded with 35% or so remaining

The nsx Gr4 on SH can go the whole race,i use mostly FM1 but alter it for a lap or so to make sure i have enough,i find that a comfy win.The Bmw M3`03 with engine swap and medium rev turbo,on SH,i can go the whole race non stop.So does the focus RS with engine swap,on SH,however im not the fastest driver so quicker drivers may use more fuel,having said that im not like`driving miss daisy`slow.

 

[evil1981]

The best Gr. 4 for me is the Mazda Gr. 4, you have many options to adjust the settings and can even throw the high RPM Turbo in it. Did four 2:10s in a row last time I drove it. That gives me race times below 26:50 if I manage to avoid penalties. Whole race FM1 with just some minor short shifting. Can try to share the tune later.

Also no stoppers and fun to drive are the Mitsubishi Lancer Gr. 4 (only 5 gears, even with fully adjustable race transmission), Nissan GTR Gr.4, the Bugatti Veyron Gr. 4 and the Toyota GR Supra Gr. 4 (needs more attention on the throttle). Nearly all Gr. 4 should be able to do no stopper with SH.

I think I did it with Alfa 155 Gr.4, a fully detuned Merc CLK GTR Gr.2 and the Ferrari 330 P4 without a pit stop, but some of them really tuned down. It was more of a challenge with the detuned ones, as you fully rely on getting the corners together. But I haven't done that after at least the last two patches so I'm not sure which car is still capable of not stopping and win.

 

[RoadRacer2556]

Aston VGT will no-stop it on FM1 if you shift below 7k rpm (which is waaay below redline but also faster than revving it out because it is so torquey.) I can run very consistent 2:10 laps, with the occasional one as low as 2:08, on SH tires. To me it is by far the easiest win in this race if you exclude the Tomahacks.

 

[Hasnain282]

Current setup I use for the DP-100 is
ECU: 72
Ballast: 73
Positioning: -49
Power: 99
Brake Balance: +5

Managed a 25:13 with it, have got within a few seconds of it in other runs but not been as lucky with traffic

 

[fastone371]

Current setup I use for the DP-100 is
ECU: 72
Ballast: 73
Positioning: -49
Power: 99
Brake Balance: +5

Managed a 25:13 with it, have got within a few seconds of it in other runs but not been as lucky with traffic
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Nice fast lap with the DP100, I have been in the 2:03's a few times too, I wonder what the fastest possible lap is with this car??

 

[Hasnain282]

Nice fast lap with the DP100, I have been in the 2:03's a few times too, I wonder what the fastest possible lap is with this car??

I managed a 2:03.2 in another run so I'd say 2:02s definitely, a proper alien could probably get into the 2:01s I'd say

 

[ChaseF14713]

I found my quickest and best handling car for this race so far to be the 99 subaru wrx sti. Took the lead easy before the NSX stopped to pit. Pit at lap 8 myself and won by 44 seconds. Best lap was 2:09.310. Can share the my tune if anyone would like to give it a go.

 

[mynameis66]

I found my quickest and best handling car for this race so far to be the 99 subaru wrx sti. Took the lead easy before the NSX stopped to pit. Pit at lap 8 myself and won by 44 seconds. Best lap was 2:09.310. Can share the my tune if anyone would like to give it a go.

Both this and the 22b are on my list of my faves for this,also the evo TMR is very similair in terms of performance.

 

[ChaseF14713]

I love the 99 for it. I feel like a lot of people haven't tried it yet. Personally haven't tried the 22b yet even though I own it but i assume it's quite similar if not better. I figured that the evo is pretty similar to the Subaru's, just haven't used it because im such a subie fan lol.

 

[Arkseven]

I love the 99 for it. I feel like a lot of people haven't tried it yet. Personally haven't tried the 22b yet even though I own it but i assume it's quite similar if not better. I figured that the evo is pretty similar to the Subaru's, just haven't used it because im such a subie fan lol.

I love the Evo V and VI. I said this countless times and I'll say it again: those Evos are overpowered!

It's a pleasant experience driving any JDM cars in this race, but the Evo V and VI are the only ones I can get a sub 27 min time.

 

[ChaseF14713]

I love the Evo V and VI. I said this countless times and I'll say it again: those Evos are overpowered!

It's a pleasant experience driving any JDM cars in this race, but the Evo V and VI are the only ones I can get a sub 27 min time.

I'll have to check those out. What is the HP and weight of them? I know my 99 wrx STI is 498hp and 2100 something lbs/a little over 952kg.

 

[mynameis66]

I'll have to check those out. What is the HP and weight of them? I know my 99 wrx STI is 498hp and 2100 something lbs/a little over 952kg.

I know it gives slightly slower changes but i almost always use custom manual as opposed to racing trans,the manual trans lowers pp slightly so can up the hp.One is a trade off against another but works for me,you can still set the ratios how you want them.My subaru 22b runs SH,518hp and 1054kg,the evo TMR runs roughly the same specs,both are great to drive. 👍

 

[johnson_57]

I love the 99 for it. I feel like a lot of people haven't tried it yet. Personally haven't tried the 22b yet even though I own it but i assume it's quite similar if not better. I figured that the evo is pretty similar to the Subaru's, just haven't used it because im such a subie fan lol.

My fastest race time and FL time on Tokyo with a normal car (excluding glitches and VGT's) is with the '99 WRX.

 

[johnson_57]

The GT-R never disappoints at Tokyo. Seen here on patrol in Tokyo and in pursuit of some criminal AI's.

 

[pedrocor]

Tried a couple of times the Porsche 918 Spyder and stock and SH, can't keep up after the batteries dry out the full charge.
The track hasn't really that many lift off and braking areas to recharge meaningfully and my pace drop about 4 secs a lap and it doesn't go over 170mph without draft on the long straight. For sure, the stock gearbox is extremely long for the nerfed specs but not sure if it's only that.

 

[floydant]

I found my quickest and best handling car for this race so far to be the 99 subaru wrx sti. Took the lead easy before the NSX stopped to pit. Pit at lap 8 myself and won by 44 seconds. Best lap was 2:09.310. Can share the my tune if anyone would like to give it a go.

I'll give it a go please 👍

 

[ChaseF14713]

I'll give it a go please 👍

 

[floydant]

Thank you, I'll give that a try.

 

[shadow0460]

My two possible ones are an engine swapped RX-7 and a Murceilago. Both tunes are attached to the YouTube videos.

 

[floydant]

I love the 99 for it. I feel like a lot of people haven't tried it yet. Personally haven't tried the 22b yet even though I own it but i assume it's quite similar if not better. I figured that the evo is pretty similar to the Subaru's, just haven't used it because im such a subie fan lol.

Loved this tune!
First time I've managed to get under 2:10, so thank you!

 

[Arkseven]

I'll have to check those out. What is the HP and weight of them? I know my 99 wrx STI is 498hp and 2100 something lbs/a little over 952kg.

Evo V is 352 hp, 1128 kg (wr 2). I'm using RH tires. This Evo can win in completely stock form using RH tires, although a custom gearbox is still needed. When I'm trying to get the best possible time, I use racing air filter and intercooler with sports silencer.

It's also possible to win with SM tires since there's room to fit any turbo and the car still is pretty fast.

Evo VI is 359 hp, 1128 kg. Although the car is faster, the fuel efficiency is slighty worse than the Evo V. I can do 11 laps in FM 1 with the Evo V and with the Evo VI I need to do FM 2-3 for the last 3 laps.

 

[mynameis66]

Evo V is 352 hp, 1128 kg (wr 2). I'm using RH tires. This Evo can win in completely stock form using RH tires, although a custom gearbox is still needed. When I'm trying to get the best possible time, I use racing air filter and intercooler with sports silencer.

It's also possible to win with SM tires since there's room to fit any turbo and the car still is pretty fast.

Evo VI is 359 hp, 1128 kg. Although the car is faster, the fuel efficiency is slighty worse than the Evo V. I can do 11 laps in FM 1 with the Evo V and with the Evo VI I need to do FM 2-3 for the last 3 laps.

I wasnt able to beat it with the Evo TMR in stock trim,i added high rpm turbo and adjusted power to get just under 600pp,running on SH i stop on lap 8 for a splash of fuel,no tyre change.Im not the best but a win is a win.
A lot of people have success with the engine swap RX7,whilst fuel econonmy is good i cant get on with it,once the tyres go of my lap times get slower and slower.I use it on Le mans 30 mins and its great on that,if slightly overpowered.

 

[breeminator]

Tried a couple of times the Porsche 918 Spyder and stock and SH, can't keep up after the batteries dry out the full charge.
The track hasn't really that many lift off and braking areas to recharge meaningfully and my pace drop about 4 secs a lap and it doesn't go over 170mph without draft on the long straight. For sure, the stock gearbox is extremely long for the nerfed specs but not sure if it's only that.

I did 26:37 with the 918 Spyder:

The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - now testing out cars for it.

I wonder if anyone has attempted this with an awd car like a 918? I'm too poor to be spending all the funds on a 918 I want to keep nearly stock!!! :( The 2013 918 Spyder is decent for this race, I've done 26:40 with it (no stops), but I did apply full weight reduction including stage 5, I...

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It took me a LOT of runs through the race to optimise the setup to reach sub 26:40 pace (without using any tuning tricks such as different front/rear ride heights).