The WTC 600 in Tokyo done without exploits is genuinely one of the hardest races in single player in gt7 - share your setups, tips, and cars

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I've been successful with the DP100, Huracan, Pagani Huayra, BAC Mono and the Citroen GT. It's a very enjoyable race when you get the hang of it. I'm working on the C7 ZR1 but its a handful at this point. I also have the Mitsubishi Lancer Gr3 Road Car and I am fiddling with better top speed on the straight. I think it could be a winner. Tried the Radical but could not get enough straight line speed to be effective.

I am enjoying the challenge this race presents.
The Radical is amazing on this track! It can carry another level of speed through the turns. I used a medium turbo and a few other mods and it had respectable speed on the straight.
 
The Radical is amazing on this track! It can carry another level of speed through the turns. I used a medium turbo and a few other mods and it had respectable speed on the straight.
I'll take another look at it. I was using SH and it was reasonable through the turns but maybe I'm missing something. I'll give it another go, Thanks!
 
Well, I missed a "review" yesterday, truly a shameful display from me, so you are now getting two "reviews" (they are so crap I don't even think I can call them reviews without the quotes, lol) at once:

BMW Z8: MORE POWER BABY!

This is genuinely a muscle car but made in Germany, I'm not even joking. It has the highest horsepower out of all the cars I've tried with 538hp, and it's genuinely fun, although not really fast, to drive.
But, why I think is a muscle car, and why do I think it's not fast? Well, it doesn't really have lots of grip, at all, it likes to unleash power to the wheels and to the ground as brutally as possible, and while this is far from being a way to go fast, you do have your fun with it especially because it has a good acceleration and good handling, so you can aim for P1 while also having some fun sliding around a bit.
Top speed wise, the car is ok - it tops at around 305/310 km/h when the track is dryer, which is ok - not slow, but also not the fastest car I've driven.

So, economy wise, this car does not treat rear tyres well, as you may expect from a car sliding and drifting around a lot, so much so this is one of the two entries on this list where you may need to pit for tyres rather than fuel. Fuel wise it's ok, a full tank can last from 7 to 8 laps depending how you drive, and the lack of any force injection shows up again in making a car have good fuel economy.

Lap times are nothing too special again, my fastest ones are low 2:11s/high 2:10s which are ok but again, nothing special, I reckon that maybe a high 2:09.9 may be possible if a very skilled driver drives it, but for my skill, it's not possible.


Final thoughts: is it a car I'd recommend to farm credits/go fast? No. Is it a car I'd recommend to have fun with? Absolutely yes, you are going to have lots of fun with it, though throttle control is extremely required.

Toyota Crown Athlete G: mistakes were made

This car is a mess. That's the tl;dr of this "review", really.
Going a bit more in detail of what I said, this car has good handling, but only when you have fresh tyres. Once they start to wear out, even a slightly bit, you'll start losing grip in 6th gear at 220 km/h, and no, that's not an euphemism, it's literally what happens even on dry tarmac, and this is the only car when this happens, its differential is so open it makes Formula Drift car look like they are made for having grip for days. As for top speed, it's also worse than the rest of the cars I've tried, not even reaching 300 km/h unless you are on fresh tyres and on the last laps where tarmac is, again, dryer than the rest of the race. Overall, awful performance from this car.

Economy wise, boy it's also bad here. Having such an open diff means it will wheelspin whenever it can, even in 4th gear with TC on, which means you start to have no grip on mediums even before reaching lap 6, and fuel wise it's also bad, even though you'll need to pit for tyres over fuel with this car, and do it early too. In short, it's bad again also for this aspect.

Lap times wise, low 2:31s/high 2:12s were the best I was able to achieve, and when compared to another RWD car like the Corvette, with which I'm able to make low 2:09s, it's safe to say this car is bad also for hotlapping. There isn't much else to say, really.


Final thoughts: using this car is like putting pineapple on pizza, it's bad and makes me feel pain deep inside me. The money I've spent on this car were absolutely wasted.
 
So, heresies aside like the one above, I've decided to test some more cars, and more specifically, a new archetype.

Wait, what do you mean by "new archetype"?

So, up until now, all the cars I've tried usually had between 460 (Corvette C7) and 538 (BMW Z8) horsepower and weigh around 1500kg on average, and this makes those cars part of said archetype. So I've decided about trying some cars which have around 350 horsepower but weigh way less, which may vary between 1100 kg to slightly above 1200kg, which makes them part of a new archetype - lower power but also lower weight.

Introduction aside, I will go ahead with the two cars I've tried:


Porsche 911 (993) Carrera RS Club Sport: the right car for the wrong track

So, this is the first car of this new archetype I've tried, and I have to say I've felt underwhelmed at first - this car has zero straight line speed. However, its handling is far superiour to anything I've tried this far, this car just likes to corner and do it well. Of course, you still need to control the car, it can be a bit tail happy if you don't have good throttle control, but if you have it, you are good to go. As I said, straight line speed is bad - it's the worst I've tried thus far, but it should come to no surprise since it's the least powerful car I've driven yet. Overall, very mixed performance.

Economy wise, the car is good, on par with cars like the Corvette or the Maserati. It's good on tyres, its lack of turbocharger and supercharger give it a good fuel economy, overall a strong car for this aspect with nothing exceptional nor any deficit compared to the best cars I've tried.

Lap times, well, you can't have awesome handling make for bad top speed and I could see it for the lap times - low 2:12s was the best I could do. I have to say though, compared to other cars that can lap 2:12 around this track like the Toyota Crown or the Mercedes A45, I'd take this car over those - it's way less frustrating to drive.

Final thoughts: I wish the event was on a different track, it would make this car more viable for the event, but it is what it is. Not a fast car, but one very enjoyable to drive for sure.

TVR Tuscan Speed 6: an endless fuel tank

Well, this car was a very pleasant surprise. Decently fast on a straight, which puts it on par with the rest of the other entries, and its quite low weight (1100kg) give it some very good handling, though I'd say not as good as the Porsche despite it being more than 100kg heavier. Very tail happy, but it can be kept under control with good throttle management, which means that overall this car performs well on this track.

Economy wise, here you have the biggest surprise: while it's as good as the others on tyres, it can go for either 9 or 10 laps with fuel map 1 without refueling - which is the most out of all the cars I've driven. If you put hards on and go for a slight fuel saving strategy you could easily make this race a no stopper without massive problems.

Lap times wise, it's also good, being able to achieve 2:10s and potentially even 2:09s if I were to tryhard it - which makes it as fast as a Skyline R32 with around 170 less horsepower. This makes me overall pleasantly surprised with it, I did not expect such good laptimes.

Final thoughts: 100% recommended car for this event, it's fast, has a good economy and it's fun to drive, 9/10 for me.

Bit of a final note, but I'm also open to requests if you want to know if a car is good to drive or not besides the cars I wanted to try anyways - the next one I'll try will be the Dodge Viper SRT10 since @mynameis66 wondered how it would fare. See you all tomorrow lads, and if you want to ask for a specific car (except the ones in the legendary dealership, I can't ensure you I will have the possibility to try them), just ask, I'm genuinely curious if someone has any requests for a specific car and see how much I can help, if I can give any help at all.
 
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So, heresies aside like the one above, I've decided to test some more cars, and more specifically, a new archetype.

Wait, what do you mean by "new archetype"?

So, up until now, all the cars I've tried usually had between 460 (Corvette C7) and 538 (BMW Z8) horsepower and weigh around 1500kg on average, and this makes those cars part of said archetype. So I've decided about trying some cars which have around 350 horsepower but weigh way less, which may vary between 1100 kg to slightly above 1200kg, which makes them part of a new archetype - lower power but also lower weight.

Introduction aside, I will go ahead with the two cars I've tried:


Porsche 911 (993) Carrera RS Club Sport: the right car for the wrong track

So, this is the first car of this new archetype I've tried, and I have to say I've felt underwhelmed at first - this car has zero straight line speed. However, its handling is far superiour to anything I've tried this far, this car just likes to corner and do it well. Of course, you still need to control the car, it can be a bit tail happy if you don't have good throttle control, but if you have it, you are good to go. As I said, straight line speed is bad - it's the worst I've tried thus far, but it should come to no surprise since it's the least powerful car I've driven yet. Overall, very mixed performance.

Economy wise, the car is good, on par with cars like the Corvette or the Maserati. It's good on tyres, its lack of turbocharger and supercharger give it a good fuel economy, overall a strong car for this aspect with nothing exceptional nor any deficit compared to the best cars I've tried.

Lap times, well, you can't have awesome handling make for bad top speed and I could see it for the lap times - low 2:12s was the best I could do. I have to say though, compared to other cars that can lap 2:12 around this track like the Toyota Crown or the Mercedes A45, I'd take this car over those - it's way less frustrating to drive.

Final thoughts: I wish the event was on a different track, it would make this car more viable for the event, but it is what it is. Not a fast car, but one very enjoyable to drive for sure.

TVR Tuscan Speed 6: an endless fuel tank

Well, this car was a very pleasant surprise. Decently fast on a straight, which puts it on par with the rest of the other entries, and it's quite low weight (1100kg) give it some very good handling, though I'd say not as good as the Porsche despite it being more than 100kg heavier. Very tail happy, but it can be kept under control with good throttle management, which means that overall this car performs well on this track.

Economy wise, here you have the biggest surprise: while it's as good as the others on tyres, it can go for either 9 or 10 laps with fuel map 1 without refueling - which is the most out of all the cars I've driven. If you put hards on and go for a slight fuel saving strategy you could easily make this race a no stopper without massive problems.

Lap times wise, it's also good, being able to achieve 2:10s and potentially even 2:09s if I were to tryhard it - which makes it as fast as a Skyline R32 with around 170 less horsepower. Which makes me overall pleasantly surprised with it, I did not expect such good laptimes.

Final thoughts: 100% recommended car for this event, it's fast, has a good economy and it's fun to drive, 9/10 for me.

Bit of a final note, but I'm also open to requests if you want to know if a car is good to drive or not besides the cars I wanted to try anyways - the next one I'll try will be the Dodge Viper SRT10 since @mynameis66 wondered how it would fare. See you all tomorrow lads, and if you want to ask for a specific car (except the ones in the legendary dealership, I can't ensure you I will have the possibility to try them), just ask, I'm genuinely curious if someone has any requests for a specific car and see how much I can help, if I can give any help at all.
Thanks, will try the tuscan. The more options for this race, the better. Been farming this race with a lot of different cars, myself.
One thing I noticed after trying a lot of cars is that NA cars do tend to perform, in average, slightly better than turbo cars in this race.
 
Happy to help ^_^ but overall, the major aspect in which NA cars performed better than turbocharged cars is fuel economy over hotlap performance.
 
I don't have any ideas so I'm not going to make an introduction this time.

Dodge Viper STR10: power and understeer

Premise: I forgot to put the widebody on it so take this into the equation when reading this "review"
This was requested by @mynameis66, and I'll be honest, it's a nice car to drive, though a bit too understeery for my taste. That has to be expected from the heaviest car with 1565kg of weight, but still, a bit too much imo. The understeer is especially noticeable at turn 3, where the car can't take this corner as fast as the others I've tried. It's still ok, but nothing too special, and the same goes for top speed, which is ok, at around 305/307 km/h. At least the car is grippy, which is a surprise, but only on dry tarmac; on wet tarmac, yeah... good luck with finding traction lol. Overall, the car is good but nothing too special. Its strong suit is acceleration, which is massive - no matter how bad you take a corner, you will always accelerate fast out of it.

Economy wise, the car is ok also here - though, admittedly, its 8.3 liters V10 engine does chug more fuel than everything else, since it's the only NA car where I have to pit at the end of lap 7 instead of lap 8 or more. At least it does treat its tyres well, which is a surprise for me along the fact it has grip, but a welcome one nonetheless.

Lap times wise, this car can do low 2:10s/high 2:09s, which is surprising especially since most of it comes from the acceleration this car has. Then again, looking back at the R32 they both behave similarly in terms of performance so it should come to no surprise they have very similar lap times around here.

Final thoughts: very nice car, and I genuinely don't get why or how the ai manages to be so bad with it (looking at you P. Gentry).

Mazda RX-7 FD: why no 6th gear?

So, we go back to the low power/low weight archetype from the high power/high weight the Viper was part of with this rotary boy. Except for the fact it's not low power, this car has 476hp and slightly more than 1250kg of weight, which means this car has around as much power as the C7 but weighs a lot less, yet it fits the 600pp category. That made me raise an eyebrow as soon as I saw it, and I then discovered why: this car tops at 299 km/h (not even 300, which adds even more frustration) in 5th gear, and it revs so high I thought "that's it, I hit the rev limiter". I seriously wish it had a 6th gear, but it is what it is I guess. At least it's very good at handling, which sort of makes up for the bad top speed, though not by much, in the end. Other bonus point, it's very grippy

Economy wise, it's ok - since it's turbocharged you consume more fuel than normal but that's accounted for, though admittedly since you rev so much in 5th gear on the main straight you do consume more fuel than the Skyline R32, which is another turbocharged car I've tested thus far and the one I use as a benchmark usually. Tyre wear is ok like many other cars I've tested thus far - nothing to report on that front, which in itself is a good thing I'd say.

As for lap times, I could have done a high 2:10 but I hit a wall and got myself a 5 sec penalty, otherwise I could have achieved it. However, you don't make history with "ifs", so 2:11.101 was the best I could achieve.

Final thoughts: I really, really felt the lack of a 6th gear, I wish this car had it. That or a slightly longer 5th, that would have also been good.

As always, if you have any request, feel free to ask, and thank you so much to read my nonsensical rambling about fake cars in a videogame.
 
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As always, if you have any request, feel free to ask, and thank you so much to read my nonsensical rambling about fake cars in a videogame.
Love it! I’ve won Tokyo with over 60 road cars and counting. I don’t have a request, but one of my favorite cars in the game, and for this race, is the NSX ‘02 Type R.
Wondering if you’ve tried it and how you like it.
 
Haven't tried it yet but I was myself curious about it, the thing that put me off was the price tag. Like, I can spend 500k for a car, but imo that's overpriced, and that put me off thus far.
 
Happy to help ^_^ but overall, the major aspect in which NA cars performed better than turbocharged cars is fuel economy over hotlap performance.
Tuned the tuscan and brought it to a race. What an easy win. Tyvm for the sugestion.
Its not just in fuel economy. I literally bought the car, took it to the race with only power limiters and ballast and won easiely. This happened at least in 8 or 9 NA cars as far as i remember, while turbo cars always needed tunning to be competitive.
 
I mean, I did tune a lot of NA cars I've tried, like the Maserati, the BMW Z8 and the Porsche 995 for example, without it they wouldn't get to 600pp.
 
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I mean, I did tune a lot of NA cars I've tried, like the Maserati, the BMW Z8 and the Porsche 995 for example, without it they wouldn't get to 600pp.
So did I, but there were some that didnt need anything other than power limiter, ecu and ballast. Just added weight, adjusted weight position to the front and dropped the hp until it got below 600pp.
You have the ferrari 458 in your garage from the coffee missions, right? Thats one of the cars where that happened.
 
Well, well, well, today I have two interesting reviews in the bag and a joke that turned out to be a waste of money. But let's start in order:

Honda NSX Type R (2002): vtec, slides, and lots of fuel

Requested by @Gazoline19, this car was pretty fun to drive, and I had a blast doing it. First of all, once you get over the price tag of 500k credits ("the pricing of cars is a relevant element that conveys their value and rarity, so I do think it’s important for it to be linked with the real world prices" is a joke and I will treat it as such) and tuning expenses, you will find yourself with a pretty fast car overall, being part of the "low power, low weight" archetype. As such, do not expect a very high top speed on the main straight, I was able to reach slightly more than 300km/h at best with it, which is slightly less than the average but it could be worse. The car has, however, really good handling, and it really shows through the part of the track that is not made for drag racing, I genuinely had my minutes of fun sliding this car around corners.
Bonus points, this car has really good brakes compared to the average, you'll be able to Ricciardo your way through the field especially in big braking zones.

Economy wise, this car will show its strong point. First of all, tyres wise it's good and very manageable, if you are accustomed to other vehicles such as the TVR, the Corvette C7 or even the Maserati, you'll find yourself at home. The strongest point of this car, however, comes from its fuel economy. I ran out of fuel at the end of the 11th lap - yes, that's right, I only had to refuel just for the last lap, otherwise this could have been a no stopper with fuel map 1 for the whole race.

Lap times wise I wasn't able to go lower than low 2:11s but that's because I wanted to see how far I could go with 1 tank of gas, if I pitted for tyres I could have easily achieved mid 2:10s with ease, and maybe even low 2:10s. Overall, strong performance also here from this car.

Final thoughts: I mean, there isn't much to say besides the fact the car is amazing. Good performance, awesome fuel economy and it's easy to drive, there isn't much to add.

Actually, there is something but that's outside the scope of the review: you'd often see streamers and e-sports player saying that MRs are dead. From my experience, outside of high performance events and BoP shenanigans, MRs are ok. That doesn't mean I think they are lying, quite the contrary, I share the opinion that MR cars in gr.4 and gr.3 are garbage as of now. But outside of those, well, I think it's fair to say they are a blast to drive, just like their counterparts.


Nissan 350Z (or Fairlady Z33 if you prefer): the embodiment of ok

Well, from the title may not seem like this car is amazing, because... it isn't, really. It's ok.
Performance wise, nothing excels - its top speed is between 305 and 310 km/h, it has good handling though it's nothing too special, brakes are ok, grip is the one you'd expect from an FR car... this is literally the world's most ok car (heh) in terms of performance.

Economy wise, this is again... ok. Admittedly, the tyres don't wear out as fast as they do on other cars such as the Z8 so that's a nice bonus, but in terms of fuel economy it's ok - a full tank can last easily for 8 laps. If you turbocharge or supercharge the engine (both options are available) you may have an harder time saving fuel, but otherwise, it's ok.

Lap times wise, again, this car is ok. Low 2:11s/high 2:10s were the best I could achieve and that's it, really, it's fast but not the fastest. So, yeah, these aren't ground breaking lap times, they are just ok.

Final thoughts: well... it's an ok car, however, I'd add it's a good training wheel to use for this event, and also what I'd call a safe pick for it. You can't go wrong with it.

Last, but not least, a car I regret wasting money on:


Chevrolet Corvette C3: do not use old cars for this event

So, in the image, there is me on the Corvette smoking past the whole field on lap one. This car is a missile on the straight but once it meets a corner it won't turn. It doesn't have brakes, it doesn't turn, it's just not worth it. That's it. That's the whole review on this car. Just avoid using old cars, they simply don't have the stats to take on this event. Don't, and I repeat, do not use such old cars for this race.

As always, thanks for reading this nonsensical stuff, and if you have questions, or you'd like to see a car being tested, feel free to always ask. See you tomorrow with some more modern entries.
 
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@The_It_Jojo Well you say not to use old cars for Tokyo, but.. :P

D Type Jag, 300SL, Alfa TZ2 and the C3 Corvette Convertible, each of those has won Tokyo in my hands, but it does rely on no stopping and looking after the tyres and fuel. :)

The Jag and the SL were on SM Tyres, the Alfa on RH tyres(sketchy at the start, but monsters the later stages.) and SS tyres on the C3.

The last of those was cutting it close on tyres, fuel and the rapidly closing in NSX & GTR.
 
Well, well, well, today I have two interesting reviews in the bag and a joke that turned out to be a waste of money. But let's start in order:

Honda NSX Type R (2002): vtec, slides, and lots of fuel

Requested by @Gazoline19, this car was pretty fun to drive, and I had a blast doing it. First of all, once you get over the price tag of 500k credits ("the pricing of cars is a relevant element that conveys their value and rarity, so I do think it’s important for it to be linked with the real world prices" is a joke and I will treat it as such) and tuning expenses, you will find yourself with a pretty fast car overall, being part of the "low power, low weight" archetype. As such, do not expect a very high top speed on the main straight, I was able to reach slightly more than 300km/h at best with it, which is slightly less than the average but it could be worse. The car has, however, really good handling, and it really shows through the part of the track that is not made for drag racing, I genuinely had my minutes of fun sliding this car around corners.
Bonus points, this car has really good brakes compared to the average, you'll be able to Ricciardo your way through the field especially in big braking zones.

Economy wise, this car will show its strong point. First of all, tyres wise it's good and very manageable, if you are accustomed to other vehicles such as the TVR, the Corvette C7 or even the Maserati, you'll find yourself at home. The strongest point of this car, however, comes from its fuel economy. I ran out of fuel at the end of the 11th lap - yes, that's right, I only had to refuel just for the last lap, otherwise this could have been a no stopper with fuel map 1 for the whole race.

Lap times wise I wasn't able to go lower than low 2:11s but that's because I wanted to see how far I could go with 1 tank of gas, if I pitted for tyres I could have easily achieved mid 2:10s with ease, and maybe even low 2:10s. Overall, strong performance also here from this car.

Final thoughts: I mean, there isn't much to say besides the fact the car is amazing. Good performance, awesome fuel economy and it's easy to drive, there isn't much to add.

Actually, there is something but that's outside the scope of the review: you'd often see streamers and e-sports player saying that MRs are dead. From my experience, outside of high performance events and BoP shenanigans, MRs are ok. That doesn't mean I think they are lying, quite the contrary, I share the opinion that MR cars in gr.4 and gr.3 are garbage as of now. But outside of those, well, I think it's fair to say they are a blast to drive, just like their counterparts.


Nissan 350Z (or Fairlady Z33 if you prefer): the embodiment of ok

Well, from the title may not seem like this car is amazing, because... it isn't, really. It's ok.
Performance wise, nothing excels - its top speed is between 305 and 310 km/h, it has good handling though it's nothing too special, brakes are ok, grip is the one you'd expect from an FR car... this is literally the world's most ok car (heh) in terms of performance.

Economy wise, this is again... ok. Admittedly, the tyres don't wear out as fast as they do on other cars such as the Z8 so that's a nice bonus, but in terms of fuel economy it's ok - a full tank can last easily for 8 laps. If you turbocharge or supercharge the engine (both options are available) you may have an harder time saving fuel, but otherwise, it's ok.

Lap times wise, again, this car is ok. Low 2:11s/high 2:10s were the best I could achieve and that's it, really, it's fast but not the fastest. So, yeah, these aren't ground breaking lap times, they are just ok.

Final thoughts: well... it's an ok car, however, I'd add it's a good training wheel to use for this event, and also what I'd call a safe pick for it. You can't go wrong with it.

Last, but not least, a car I regret wasting money on:


Chevrolet Corvette C3: do not use old cars for this event

So, in the image, there is me on the Corvette smoking past the whole field on lap one. This car is a missile on the straight but once it meets a corner it won't turn. It doesn't have brakes, it doesn't turn, it's just not worth it. That's it. That's the whole review on this car. Just avoid using old cars, they simply don't have the stats to take on this event. Don't, and I repeat, do not use such old cars for this race.

As always, thanks for reading this nonsensical stuff, and if you have questions, or you'd like to see a car being tested, feel free to always ask. See you tomorrow with some more modern entries.
The mustang boss 429 is one of my favourite cars in this race.
 
What?! I've done this event so many times, I thought it wasn't possible to enter with Comfort tyres? Every comfort tyre wearing car I have is marked yellow like it's ineligible...

Tokyo 600pp has no tyre restriction.
You can't change tires other than Racing or Inters/Wet tires on the pit stops tough...
When you come to pit lane this are the only options to select and, you can't choose any of this because of the PP limit, so you can't effectively change to another kind of tire. Your only option is go with the same set all the race.
 
You can't change tires other than Racing or Inters/Wet tires on the pit stops tough...
When you come to pit lane this are the only options to select and, you can't choose any of this because of the PP limit, so you can't effectively change to another kind of tire. Your only option is go with the same set all the race.

Yes. But for the chaparral, stick to FM6. The Car is well planted even when using CM tyres.
 
What tyres did you use, and what tuning did you apply to get to 600? I genuinely can't control any old car that gets to that pp level.
Wide body, front b, side a
Sports hard, tcs3
Ps: it wont have fuel for 6 laps on fm1, so I do lap 1,2 on fm6; laps 3,4,5,6 fm1; pit on lap 6; lap 7,8 fm6; laps 9,10,11,12 fm1.
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Ah, I see the problem then, I'm used to drive with zero assists on even if I'm on pad, driving with assists on feels weird to me from experience and I'm too used to it to change it back to TCS on.
 
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