The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne 

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Famine
Still, let us remember that Sony chose to strip an advertised feature from their last console brute force...
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Did anyone ever use OtherOS? I personally never used it, and it was only an exploit for hackers to install homebrew on the PS3. Clearly Sony knew this, and was the reason why they stripped it in V3.00, they wanted people to use the PS3 the way it was intended to be used.
 
Actually yes. Many in academia used OtherOS and parallel PS3 processing in lieu of supercomputer time. Of course they weren't affected because they never needed to update the PS3 to play the latest games online...

Mind you, it's not like removing OtherOS support helped them combat hacking - the direct response was to make the PS3 a target for it and the proliferation of CFW has directly impacted the quality of online gaming in public lobbies.


Nevertheless it was an advertised feature of the PS3 that Sony removed after it was sold from everyone's consoles (or they removed your ability to play games online on it). MS's repeated decisions to backtrack on features before they sell the console might look a bit half-arsed, but at least they've not backtracked on a feature on consoles they've already sold. Yet.
 
I'd like to see Sony and MS add some proper support for SSD.

They're quite cheap now but in 3 years it'll be in most peoples reach
 
It is a bit concerning to see a fighting game like Killer Instinct running only 720p. It will be interesting to see how long this generation will last, a few years shorter I predict than current generation but way to early to be talking about that :lol:.
 
phillkillv2
The PS3 was able able to run with SSD installed. The load speeds were dramatically decreased also.
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Never said PS3 wasn't able to use an SSD. i'd say improved loading on PS3 and I'm talking about full support for any size on both PS4 and Xbox One.

Saidur_Ali
It is a bit concerning to see a fighting game like Killer Instinct running only 720p. It will be interesting to see how long this generation will last, a few years shorter I predict than current generation but way to early to be talking about that :lol:.
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To be fair I think its had less than a year of dev time. MS reached out to double helix to just get the game out pretty late and they're aiming for 60fps first.

Another thing is old pc hardware worse or on par with a 7790/7850 can run the likes of SFIV at 1080p up to 200-400fps with much better textures and shadows etc. I can only think its down to double helix, a rush job, also not sure if true or not but MS are behind on some aspects of the devkits. I'd rather look to Capcom or a normal dev cycle.
 
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Saidur_Ali
It will be interesting to see how long this generation will last, a few years shorter I predict than current generation but way to early to be talking about that :lol:.
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I think this was a big issue with current-gen. Too big of a gap between releases. 8 years from 360-One, 7 years from PS3/PS4.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but next-gen consoles are already behind high-tier PCs, and they're not even out yet. If they last as long as this generation has, imagine how far they'll be behind 6-7 years from now.

A new generation of consoles every 5 years sounds ideal to me. Still a fairly long life, yet a healthier one since time won't allow them to fall as far behind behind PC hardware to the point of becoming an utter laughing stock, as the 360/PS3 have done.

So hopefully by this point in 2018 we'll be talking about the PS5 and Xbox Pi or whatever they'll call it.
 
iRevelationz
I think this was a big issue with current-gen. Too big of a gap between releases. 8 years from 360-One, 7 years from PS3/PS4.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but next-gen consoles are already behind high-tier PCs, and they're not even out yet. If they last as long as this generation has, imagine how far they'll be behind 6-7 years from now.

A new generation of consoles every 5 years sounds ideal to me. Still a fairly long life, yet a healthier one since time won't allow them to fall as far behind behind PC hardware to the point of becoming an utter laughing stock, as the 360/PS3 have done.

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PC spec is well ahead now.

Back in 2005, consoles keeping up with pc hardware was easy. What many console people don't know is that PC went through its own upgrade in power consumption constraints since 2005.

A high end GPU in 2005 was around 70W. Since then we've reached 250-300W for one GPU core on a graphics card. Consoles releases won't match pc hardware for a long time now. That old paradigm of a new console being up there with pc I've seen posted and people are expecting for the PS4/One is no longer achievable.

Just to add to your opening point, if Sony and MS launched a new console in 2010. What GPU could they have used for around 50-70 watts of power they need to stick to? I can tell you it wasn't good.

Anwway, give the devs time, they do have some more proccessing power, much more than they would've had in 2010.
 
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Famine
Actually yes. Many in academia used OtherOS and parallel PS3 processing in lieu of supercomputer time. Of course they weren't affected because they never needed to update the PS3 to play the latest games online...

Mind you, it's not like removing OtherOS support helped them combat hacking - the direct response was to make the PS3 a target for it and the proliferation of CFW has directly impacted the quality of online gaming in public lobbies.


Nevertheless it was an advertised feature of the PS3 that Sony removed after it was sold from everyone's consoles (or they removed your ability to play games online on it). MS's repeated decisions to backtrack on features before they sell the console might look a bit half-arsed, but at least they've not backtracked on a feature on consoles they've already sold. Yet.
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That's how it works. You only buy the console, not "rights" to use the PSN.

Not Sony removed it, the users who updated did. You'd be surprised, legally that's pretty much standard.
 
dr_slump
That's how it works. You only buy the console, not "rights" to use the PSN.

Not Sony removed it, the users who updated did. You'd be surprised, legally that's pretty much standard.
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Legal or otherwise, it's still a 🤬 move.
 
katpeeler
Nobody has posted in THIS thread in about 3 days..how about helping bumping it back up to the top
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=239334
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There is nothing to discuss. No news besides Indies and a rumor, that I can't confirm, that PS4 will not allow external Hard Drives at launch like the X1.

According to Marc Whitten (Chief Xbox One Platform Architect) you will not be able to pre-load a digital game before it releases at launch. [Source]
 
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F1 fan
They already confirmed that you can change the hard drive.
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I know about swapping the Internal Hard Drive out but some people use a USB connected (external) Hard Drive to put their games on. The rumor is that they are not supported at launch but nothing that I can confirm.

Xbox One to support eight controllers at once [Source]
 
It is not a rumour. MS confirmed that external HDDs will not have support at launch.

Also, do we still have to install disc games to the HDD?
 
darren200cook
It is not a rumour. MS confirmed that external HDDs will not have support at launch.

Also, do we still have to install disc games to the HDD?
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I was talking about the Playstation since I was answering Kat about how nobody was posting in the PS4 thread.

I believe mandatory installs went away with the DRM policies.
 
iMikeTheKing
I believe mandatory installs went away with the DRM policies.
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No, mandatory installs are still there, because the BRDs cannot access data quickly or stable enough to load up games, that's why all games have to be installed to HDD.
 
Xbox One now in full production with improved CPU performance

Geekwire
About one month after improving the GPU clock speed, Mehdi added that Microsoft just made another technical boost by upgrading the CPU performance to 1.75 GHZ from 1.6 GHZ
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Though certainly no game changer, anything that helps the performance of multiplorm games between the two consoles is welcome, it will be a better experience for everyone.
 
XBox One to be released November 22nd. 1 week after the PS4 and 1 week before Black Friday.
 
Blitz24
Did not know it was not a worldwide simultaneous launch.
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It's not a worldwide launch when only 13 countries are going to get it this year.

"Today we are announcing that Xbox One will be available on Friday November 22, 2013 in all 13 of our initial launch markets – Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, New Zealand, Spain, UK, and USA. Many more markets will follow in 2014."
 
Who else pre-ordered from Best Buy and selected the delivery option (it was the only option at the time)? I'm curious to see if they plan on shipping it to doorsteps on day one or if it will be days later.
 

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