The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne

[Tornado]

Nintendo didn't "get" Sony to do anything. Most companies wouldn't react to another company backing out of a business deal by spending the next 3 years building an entire division, starting new development studios and reorganizing your current ones to fit them and pouring millions and millions of dollars into creating a product outside your traditional market purely to take away business from the company that backed out of the deal with you. Sony was the one to choose to respond to it the way they did; and if you want to say that it wasn't done under the same pretext that X-Badger noted here:

not to mention they got into the console business seemingly just to prove to Sony they could do better after Sony turned down a cooperative deal.

Be my guest. Because Sony sure as hell didn't get involved as a first party player in the games industry because they thought they would do worse than Nintendo.



Nevertheless, I'm not in the mood right now nor interested in the first place to get involved yet another argument with you where the only reason you're even taking part is so you can dress up like this guy:

 

[dice1998]

Because of this Sony decided to go it's own way and developped the real PlayStation, which was called PSX at that time.

PSX:

Playstation:

As far as I know, Sony never called the Playstation "PSX". The PSX was called PSX though.

Can you throw up a source link showing that Sony called the Playstation (not Play Station which was what that Sony/Nintendo joint console was) PSX?

 

[dhandeh]

Strange, I thought this was the new Xbox thread?

 

[sems4arsenal]

Never knew that (about the PSX) always wondered why people called it that

 

[dice1998]

It was a Japan Only model and had the first iteration of the XMB . I still want one.

Strange, I thought this was the new Xbox thread?

Xbox, Playstation.. different console, same hatebase.

 

[LaBounti]

PSX:


As far as I know, Sony never called the Playstation "PSX". The PSX was called PSX though.

Can you throw up a source link showing that Sony called the Playstation (not Play Station which was what that Sony/Nintendo joint console was) PSX?

Sony never called it that but Referring to PS1 as PSX was common long before the actual PSX even came out. There was even a PSX Magazine based off the nick name.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

On the Sony spite thing. Nintendo was working with Sony then backed stabbed them. So Sony was like effe you & went on their own.
Now MS wanted to work with Sony but Sony said no so MS made a console out of spite.

Two different kind of fruits there.

 

[a6m5]

Sony never called it that but Referring to PS1 as PSX was common long before the actual PSX even came out. There was even a PSX Magazine based off the nick name.

Yeah, I never really understood that, but I remember magazines & stores sometimes referring to the Playstation as "PSX". I found this Wikipedia page that says the "PS-X" was SONY code name for the Playstation, but it's in Japanese.

 

[dr_slump]

*pic*

Never seen, I don't watch stuff like that.

As far as I know, Sony never called the Playstation "PSX". The PSX was called PSX though.

Can you throw up a source link showing that Sony called the Playstation (not Play Station which was what that Sony/Nintendo joint console was) PSX?

It was never officially called PSX. The name PSX was used before the actual PSX you're refering to existed. PS-X or PSX, I'm not sure which one, was used during development and people somehow started to use it.

The official PSX device just confused everything.


Perhaps I should've said PS1 instead.

 

[kennylmao]

Deleted.

Meh, ain't worth it.

 

[Scaff]

On the Sony spite thing. Nintendo was working with Sony then backed stabbed them. So Sony was like effe you & went on their own.
Now MS wanted to work with Sony but Sony said no so MS made a console out of spite.

Two different kind of fruits there.

Odd how every one forgets the contract clause that Sony had added (and Nintendo missed at first) that would have given Sony the rights to all software released on disc. Which would have given Sony fee reign yo do anything with the likes off Mario, etc off they came out on disc.

That's why Nintendo went to Phillips, they didn't just throw away the development for a giggle.

 

[Com Fox]

I heard rumors that after the Xbox One reveal, Wii U sales increased.

 

[RACECAR]

Odd how every one forgets the contract clause that Sony had added (and Nintendo missed at first) that would have given Sony the rights to all software released on disc. Which would have given Sony fee reign yo do anything with the likes off Mario, etc off they came out on disc.

That's why Nintendo went to Phillips, they didn't just throw away the development for a giggle.

So they did it to protect their franchises?

 

[phillgt2002]

Not sure if this has been posted here i dont think it has because its fairly fresh news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6AyKsOUCyE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That has to be the dumbest things I've ever clicked on. I don't care about MS is doing. Everyone is acting as if these kinds of things haven't been done like DRM and third party bribing. I know the XB1 isn't the most user friendly console but I don't care for people that make videos just to attract idiotic uninformed people to and allow for the 'Xbox Sux' top comment. It makes us gamer's look like a bunch of spoiled little children.

If MS makes a Xbox One in white then I'll be interested. The PSX is such a beautiful console. So subtle with the design. So clean.

I heard rumors that after the Xbox One reveal, Wii U sales increased.

You heard rumors. There are many rumors that we know of. The majority of those are just made up.

 

[Wardez]

This will sound like BS, I mean, I thought it was too when I heard it.

But my brother has a couple "dudebro" friends that used to be big Gamecube guys back in the day, we were PS2 mainly, but they always tried to talk it down for whatever reason.

Anyway, they turned into 360 fanatics last gen (couldn't get into the Wii) and now, upon hearing all this negative press about the Xbone, they went full Nintendard and bought themselves WiiUs.

Yeah, head shaking was had. I still wanna check out the WiiU, not hating on it, just the logic there, I can't relate.

 

[Scaff]

So they did it to protect their franchises?

Pretty much, the manner they did it in however was designed to put Sony's noise out of joint, so Sony made the PS One anyway. Rather similar to the reasons MS made the Xbox.

 

[Com Fox]

This will sound like BS, I mean, I thought it was too when I heard it.

But my brother has a couple "dudebro" friends that used to be big Gamecube guys back in the day, we were PS2 mainly, but they always tried to talk it down for whatever reason.

Anyway, they turned into 360 fanatics last gen (couldn't get into the Wii) and now, upon hearing all this negative press about the Xbone, they went full Nintendard and bought themselves WiiUs.

Yeah, head shaking was had. I still wanna check out the WiiU, not hating on it, just the logic there, I can't relate.

I love all Nintendo and Sony consoles so far 👍 (I like there game libraries most of all)

The 360 is a good console (played it a bit at a friends place) but I never felt the urge to get it (mainly due to I'll be only buying it for Forza (the other games I like, I can get on PS3) and I cannot afford the online fee).

 

[Com Fox]

You heard rumors. There are many rumors that we know of. The majority of those are just made up.

I only say it is a rumor because I got it from Wikipedia .

This might change our opinions on the Xbox One. http://www.news.com.au/technology/g...ames-on-xbox-one/story-e6frfrt9-1226660430285

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Odd how every one forgets the contract clause that Sony had added (and Nintendo missed at first) that would have given Sony the rights to all software released on disc. Which would have given Sony fee reign yo do anything with the likes off Mario, etc off they came out on disc.

That's why Nintendo went to Phillips, they didn't just throw away the development for a giggle.

They ended up sort of throwing away the development for a giggle anyway. Kept with cartridges because of load times and seeing other CD platforms struggling.

Nintendo and Sony kept on working with each other on project on and off until 1993 when Nintendo cancelled the CD add-on plans due to probably development of N64 and seeing no need for it anymore. Sony Playstation is just a normal evolution of the years of work put into Play Station, might be as early as 1986.

 

[DG_Silva]

This might change our opinions on the Xbox One. http://www.news.com.au/technology/g...ames-on-xbox-one/story-e6frfrt9-1226660430285

Isn't it funny when Reshiram posts good news from MS, everyone ignores it?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Isn't it funny when Reshiram posts good news from MS, everyone ignores it?

He only just posted it so don't know why you make such a statement that everyone is ignoring it. Also this is not new news and has already been discussed in this thread.

 

[Com Fox]

He only just posted it so don't know why you make such a statement that everyone is ignoring it. Also this is not new news and has already been discussed in this thread.

Really, there has been the same type of news as before?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Really, there has been the same type of news as before?

Yep, a few pages back it was posted the link to actual source: Link

There has been quite a number of negative articles in response to it and some are posted on this thread already.

 

[Imari]

This might change our opinions on the Xbox One. http://www.news.com.au/technology/g...ames-on-xbox-one/story-e6frfrt9-1226660430285

If they had linked to their source it would have been better, it's not quite as happy as they make it sound:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

I imagine that's probably been posted in this thread at some point before, in which case I apologise for posting it again.

Edit: Tree'd. D'oh!

 

[F1 fan]

Isn't it funny when Reshiram posts good news from MS, everyone ignores it?

You're really starting to show your true colours.

Between reshiram's post and yours, there was only a single post in the entire console and PC sub forum. As saidur Ali said, it was old (relatively speaking) news so not necessarily worth commenting on.

I'm trying to be impartial in the whole next gen debate. Something you're clearly struggling to do.

 

[Com Fox]

You're really starting to show your true colours.

Between reshiram's post and yours, there was only a single post in the entire console and PC sub forum. As saidur Ali said, it was old (relatively speaking) news so not necessarily worth commenting on.

I'm trying to be impartial in the whole next gen debate. Something you're clearly struggling to do.

Personally I'm not liking the Xbox One , I was just researching some things about Xbox One and that caught my eye.

 

[DG_Silva]

You're really starting to show your true colours...I'm trying to be impartial in the whole next gen debate. Something you're clearly struggling to do.

I will say, for me, the X360 has been the better option in the current generation of consoles (I do have a PS3 and a PC as well). So, if you want to call me a fanboy, do so. However, I can quite happy to play the advocate and see why a company would take the action they have to investigate whether it will affect me.

Thankfully, MS have rethought their original position on some of the issues, and reacted to popular opinion. Whether or not this was a deliberate ploy to make people think badly of the console, and as MS started to rescind and 'fix' the problems, public opinion of the XBone will change, and good pricing will make it a more attractive proposition than the PS4, is something for someone else in the tin foil hat brigade to discuss. I'm not that bothered about it, as long as it doesn't significantly change my gaming habits.

What has annoyed me is, that in this thread and others, it has turned into anti-Microsoft rant, there is very little balanced or pro-Microsoft arguements, and the negative opines seem to be the most vociferous, with very little balancing, apart from yourself F1 fan. Anyone with a pro voice, seems to get slapped down. I would look at the PS4 and try to balance the same way, but 1, I don't have the same level of interest, and 2, so very little is known about the console.

As I've said elsewhere, I will probably get a XBone after 6 months, just to see if there are any reliability issues, and I will keep to gaming on my X360 and PC.

 

[Famine]

Isn't it funny when Reshiram posts good news from MS, everyone ignores it?

I don't see what's "good" about it.

All they've confirmed is that they'll "let" you play used games on the console (how gracious) and won't charge publishers, retailers or the gamer for trading the physical game in. Smashing. We all already knew that so it's not really "news" and it's scarcely "good" just because the concept that you can only play new games on your console (which was never mooted) is bad and that you'd be charged to trade it in (which was never mooted either) is bad.

The question mark hanging over how much it'll cost you to buy a new licence for the used game and who's going to pay for that in the instance of rental games - the same question mark that's existed since the reveal - remains.


It's status quo "olds".

 

[Com Fox]

My friend says that paying a fee for used games is a good market Strategy.

 

[Famine]

Strategy. And if you can get people to do it, yes. You get more money, so... duh.

But it's horrible business practice and most consumers hate it. Even EA pulled their ludicrous system after the backlash and being voted "the most evil company in America". I think only Ubisoft retain a similar "passport" system at the moment - where you get a free content/online play unlock code in the box if you buy new or you buy one from them if you buy used.

But we've been over and over and over and over this many times since the very first reveal. Not news.