Think positive: why we should be glad GT5 is delayed till spring '10?

[craste]

What's that saying?

"You can't polish a turd"

 

[CarBastard]

Those are some good reasons. Thanks for the post.

Heres mine:

@You have time to polish or acquire your driving skills so you will be ready to fully enjoy the game.

EDIT: Added this thread to my sign .

 

[Bogie 19th]

Less bugs, more features, a finished game. Doesn't get much more positive than that.

 

[CodeRedR51]

My positive thinking?

Well, I have no vacation time left for 2009. So, if GT comes out in 2010, then I will have a more vacation time to take when the game comes out. I plan on taking a few days off.

 

[Gejost]

I hope it doesn't come out next year because if it comes out in 2012 it will be absolutely awesome as they will of had loads of more time to perfect stuff and include even more cars and tracks etc.

Yes, lets be super positive.

If PD thinks it's necessary, then yes, it would be a 2012 release.

This sums up this post: My dog died yesterday but at least i don't have to walk him anymore.

Yes! Stay positive!

 

[FLASH48]

I'm thinking positive, it's taking to long! I might die before GT5 comes out!! And that will really piss me off!!

 

[tinker]

@Time to learn the curves of Nordschleife, training on NFS:Shift.
@Time to save up for a Playseat or build a cockpit.

 

[steven]

@You have time to polish or acquire your driving skills so you will be ready to fully enjoy the game.

Nice one
Post #1 updated up to here.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

To tell you the truth when i saw the picture of "March 2010" While eating popcorn and watching the melt down of people who got their hopes set to high, Crash and burn.. Kudos to srrd and his"Tokyo game show thread" it was epic and became a "Post-whore-athon."

Any way while laughing, OUT LOUD, I said to my self good for them, the more the wait, the more small last minute details can be added, bugs can be fixed, upcomming cars can be implemented, Damage can be polished, Day and night/weather can be polished, And we can all be happy campers simple.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Well I can feel completely free to buy Uncharted 2 and MW2 until GT5 release, because when GT5 come out I'll play it all the ****ing time!

 

[Mubble]

@ PD has more time to include great new cars in the game. OK, new cars.
@ its a good thing as things can only get better and be improved, and new features may be added that would of been left out. Ok, new features & general improvements.
@ they will have the time to smooth out any issues, possibly add new cars and implement new features. You've already mentioned new cars & features in points 1 & 2.
@ 6 months worth of improvements in quality. Back on the improvements issue again.
@ gives PD time to improve the physics, collision physics, A.I. and scenery. Again, general improvements
@ I rather have a polished game stuffed with things the developers wanted included, than a rushed buggy game. That's the third point in a row to cover improvements.
@ the 6 month time period they have until release is a great amount of time to fully improve, adjust, and tweak [those] issues. Ok, I was wrong - we've got a 4th in a row!
@ there's going to be some more cars say about an extra 30-50 cars which would bump it up closer to 1,000 or a bit less. Phew, we're back on to 'more cars'.
@ less bugs, more features, a finished game. Doesn't get much more positive than that. No, wait, are we back on to general improvements again?!
@ more time to perfect stuff and include even more cars and tracks etc. And finally, the 'more cars' issue. Was worried you wouldn't mention it.

Wow, you really know how to drag one point and make it in to 12!

PD don't have more time to make improvements and include additional stuff just because it's being release 3 months later than we hoped. They're just not as progressed as we first thought. They're taking 3 months longer to get to the same final product, that's all.

 

[Da-Bomber]

They might be able to add more cars on track

 

[Organ-Donor]

They might be able to add more cars on track

It was quoted that NASCAR will have 20+ cars on track. If you need me to look for it I might. They said that having only 16 cars on track in NASCAR would just not look right.

 

[Quiet_Storm]

I won't get yelled at and nagged by my Fiancee until next Spring for spending too much time playing games and not enough time with her.

 

[Devedander]

Wow, you really know how to drag one point and make it in to 12!

PD don't have more time to make improvements and include additional stuff just because it's being release 3 months later than we hoped. They're just not as progressed as we first thought. They're taking 3 months longer to get to the same final product, that's all.

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

 

[Organ-Donor]

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

And who's to say the chef isn't adding special toppings and tweaking the flavor of that dinner in that timeperiod?

 

[Raitziger]

They should be able to fix the freaking steering animation by then to match 900 degrees input.

 

[Bogie 19th]

It was quoted that NASCAR will have 20+ cars on track. If you need me to look for it I might. They said that having only 16 cars on track in NASCAR would just not look right.

20 wouldn't look right either. We need support for at least 40-43, as most NASCAR races are.

 

[pesk]

I hope that they are working on new tracks,they might have looked at a few rival games and made the decision to include more historical circuits, dang i hope they put in pikes peak hill climb too. puttting the game out next year is all good, dont be so sure about a march release it could even go back to summer time or fall.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

They should be able to fix the freaking steering animation by then to match 900 degrees input.

They have already done the 900 degree rotation, but i guess to them it looked comical so they took it out, Well i mean he was karate chopping the wheel.

 

[CarBastard]

Wow, you really know how to drag one point and make it in to 12!

PD don't have more time to make improvements and include additional stuff just because it's being release 3 months later than we hoped. They're just not as progressed as we first thought. They're taking 3 months longer to get to the same final product, that's all.

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

So what if he made two points into twelve? He made his truth intention clear. Yes, we are getting a 30 minute later dinner, but we have been shown that it's because it'll be better. We've seen it in screenshots, in the news page, and even on GT PSP, the reasons why the game is delayed. Steven's point was "Stay cool, we'll get the game and it'll be the best one ever" .

 

[Tenacious D]

20 wouldn't look right either. We need support for at least 40-43, as most NASCAR races are.

Yeah... thank heaven Forza 3 is there to pick up that slack for us.

Look, Toca and F1CE had races with more than 20 cars, though not always with Toca, but they did it by a certain level of cheating. The cars around you had full properties attached, like sound, physics and bot A.I., but the cars outside of a certain range were like ghosts. In fact, if you watch a Toca replay, the only car that makes any sound at all is yours. Go online with F1CE, and 11 of those other cars are ghosts.

Every other console racer I'm aware of to date seems to have a ceiling of 16 cars. And Prologue actually lets you see those 15 other bots in operation during replays, so they aren't just place holders ghosting around the track. If Kaz can get 20 cars on track at once with a full damage model, that will be quite a feat.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Yeah... thank heaven Forza 3 is there to pick up that slack for us.

WTF does this have to do with Forza?

 

[serversurfer]

👍 to those saying you can't have a delay until you have an official release date. If it slips from March, then we can talk about delays.

I don't want to undermine those who want new cars, but I truly hope the addition of new cars is not the predominant reason for the hold up. Don't get me wrong, although nice, it technically does not improve game play whatsoever. A Toyota, Opel, Ford will not make the roughly 1000 car line up any better. It will certainly not make "Gran Turismo" any worst, but it will not make it any better.

Team Polyphony needs to focus on what has long been considered lackluster in the series: (1) Physics (2) Collision/Damage Physics (3) Artificial Intelligence (4) Scenery.

Actually, the people that work on the physics and the people that model new cars aren't the same people. If you're going to have the geeks spend the next five months tweaking the physics, then you may as well have the artists models some more cars in the interim.

What's that saying?

"You can't polish a turd"

In fact, you can.

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

So are you now saying the March release isn't the result of them adding damage to the standard cars at the last minute, contrary to what you've claimed so vehemently in the past, or do you just reflexively contradict anything vaguely positive/hopeful that might be said about GT?

 

[CodeRedR51]

In fact, you can.

Haha, I remember that! 👍

 

[Tenacious D]

So are you now saying the March release isn't the result of them adding damage to the standard cars at the last minute, contrary to what you've claimed so vehemently in the past, or do you just reflexively contradict anything vaguely positive/hopeful that might be said about GT?

I think we all know the answer to that. I just wonder if he does...

 

[pricey2003]

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

I can safely say you will never get 3 Michelin stars

 

[CarBastard]

Exactly. If the chef forgot to turn the oven up high enough and now your dinner will take 30 more minutes, you aren't getting a 30 minute better dinner, you are getting the same dinner but just waiting longer for it.

Have you read GTPlanet news page recently?

GB: Gran Turismo 5 will offer a new kind of damage…
KY: Right now we are adding a brand new real-time deformation engine that will process according to the speed and angle of impact. But doing this in real-time remains truly complex. We could make it an easier way with pre-damaged models but definitely we don’t want to make it that way.

I think that proves Steven's (and some of us) point .

 

[NBH]

I wish GT5 was coming out this year but I don't think waiting until march is that bad. Once the decision to put damage in was made it needed to be done properly and hopefully it will now. But PD have to draw the line somewhere between finishing what's in GT5 and what needs to put in GT6. The longer they take to release it the more bits and pieces people expect in the game and I hope people aren't disappointed.

 

[chepe371]

I won't get yelled at and nagged by my Fiancee until next Spring for spending too much time playing games and not enough time with her.

"Honey, im having an afffair"



"WHATS HER NAME????"

"G25"