Three Hundred Miles Per Hour
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Somehow I knew you'd do that DE...very subtle.
Well, if you can complete 99.3% of the game, it'd be ridiculously stupid to say you can't get 320
. Keep trying, you'd be surprised at what helps.
And, '92_NSX_TYPE_R, you could try: minimum suspension on everything except toe -2 front, 4 rear, ride height (max front, minimum rear) and RSS tyres. Play with the dampers too. Then, try min. front downforce, max rear... if that does a wheelie keep lowering it until it doesn't. And don't use driving aids You might, literally, hit the wall, but i couldn't be sure, i haven't used that car in a while.
One person, ShadowDiabloS, managed 300.02mph with the Takata NSX, if that helps... my PB is 295.
-Macca!!!
Well, if you can complete 99.3% of the game, it'd be ridiculously stupid to say you can't get 320
. Keep trying, you'd be surprised at what helps.And, '92_NSX_TYPE_R, you could try: minimum suspension on everything except toe -2 front, 4 rear, ride height (max front, minimum rear) and RSS tyres. Play with the dampers too. Then, try min. front downforce, max rear... if that does a wheelie keep lowering it until it doesn't. And don't use driving aids
You might, literally, hit the wall, but i couldn't be sure, i haven't used that car in a while.One person, ShadowDiabloS, managed 300.02mph with the Takata NSX, if that helps... my PB is 295.
-Macca!!!
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Alright ill try that in a little but, right now in trying to find the perfect Honda for a spot challegne 
, but thank you for your help
, but thank you for your help
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Vince, personaly i dont think it is posible but i will try it for you.
mcsqueegy
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I know i'm being a pain in the arse, DE, but i noticed something else with the leaderboard. Where it shows the Mercedes SL65 on the rankings, it says 301.04mph, but where it says the actual record for each car, it says 301.14mph. Which one is right?
P.S expect a photo of my Zonda LM P.B by Sunday, even if it's not 300 at the time Problem is, i never give up!
P.S expect a photo of my Zonda LM P.B by Sunday, even if it's not 300 at the time
Problem is, i never give up!
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Well, it does the job..mcsqueegy
True "power shakes" cannot be achieved in a rear-wheel-drive car. I find it interesting that you believe you've got a Group C car to do 320mph without using a "crazy physics engine glitch"Kesl
Decent starting advice, although when you start getting to real fine-tuning, of course, you know there's a lot more to it than thatmcsqueegy
Well, quite! I find myself thinking that all the time, but I'm not supposed to talk about LFS hereMetarIf you really want it realistic, play another game. Real cars get slower if their front is pointing upwards - and soon backwards.
I would hazard a guess that the actual Leaderboard entry is right, seeing as that's the one that comes from the database - that's entered first, and then the record section is read from the Leaderboard/database. I'll hunt down the actual post that had the speed in it, though, and check.. Thanks for spotting that 👍mcsqueegy
EDIT - Yep, Viper's original post shows 301.04mph as well. I'll get that chenged in the records section, then. Cheers!
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Have you tried all the tyre combinations, mcsqueegy? Much discussion was had about super-hard tyres having a lower grip coefficient, and therefore lower rolling resistance, and therefore allowing a higher top speed (provided you could still get around the corner without understeering) - but I don't recall ever finding out if GT4 models this accurately.
DE
I'm well aware of that, I was poking fun at the fact that GT4's physics engine doesn't need something like a wheelie or power shakes to make it horrendously inaccurate. Nitrous wouldn't come close to giving you the power you would need for such speeds in reality, and if the same engine was taken to the power levels required, it would certainly not stand up to the minute or so of full-throttle use we need for a speed test. As a 300mph Audi R8 and a 329mph Toyota GT-One prove, nitrous isn't needed to make GT4's physics go mental either.Kesl
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I saw that discussion, but most cars wouldn't be able to turn enough in the corner with RSH's. When i used the Super hard slicks, i didn't get as much speed in the corner, but the top end was virtually the same, give or take 2mph. I haven't tried super softs, but i'm worried about oversteer in the corner, as the Zonda LM corners very well for that kind of setup . I'll see what I can do as soon as i get a new Zonda...not easy since you only win it once!
-Macca
. I'll see what I can do as soon as i get a new Zonda...not easy since you only win it once!-Macca
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Hmmm... Certainly more of an issue with low-downforce race cars, I guess. I seem to recall my R8, running a setup that wasn't even terribly fast, had trouble. Have you tried out super-hard on the back, and as soft as you need to turn on the front? Just to keep the overall resistance level, if you like, as low as you can but without knackering the handling.
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Pfff, it's not that hard
A near-fanatical love of the Nürburgring Nordschleife probably helped a bit, but I find that most people's problems with Mission 34 are either not knowing the track - in which case practice it, a lot, without the huge wait at the start - or being unable to handle the car on those tyres, in which case take a similarly overpowered and overweight car there and learn to drive without lead thumbs. A combination of finesse and experience is all it needs.
Which brings me neatly on to high-speed tuning again
The Takata Dome Honda NSX racer is feeling distinctly unloved, I think, any takers to get it over 300.02mph?
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A near-fanatical love of the Nürburgring Nordschleife probably helped a bit, but I find that most people's problems with Mission 34 are either not knowing the track - in which case practice it, a lot, without the huge wait at the start - or being unable to handle the car on those tyres, in which case take a similarly overpowered and overweight car there and learn to drive without lead thumbs. A combination of finesse and experience is all it needs.
Which brings me neatly on to high-speed tuning again
The Takata Dome Honda NSX racer is feeling distinctly unloved, I think, any takers to get it over 300.02mph?
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I'll take that challenge, if i can get close to it I will post my setup and see if someone can do better or help me out a bit 👍
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*Scrolls up*. Mission 34? Bah, i did that a while ago. Sadly, i have driven that track with almost every car. But yes, it takes a lot of skill (and luck) to win that last mission. And, you win 50,000cr. for doing it! Yeah, you'll notice not everybody can do it...is it easier in PAL version?Pfff, it's not that hard
A near-fanatical love of the Nürburgring Nordschleife probably helped a bit, but I find that most people's problems with Mission 34 are either not knowing the track - in which case practice it, a lot, without the huge wait at the start...
And NSX, all I can say is...good luck. It's a fun but nasty car.
Which I completely forgot I had until you mentioned it. 👍-Macca
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eh it shouldnt be all that hard to get up to some high speed for that car. And the thing that sucks is i donwloaded the tuning guide, hooked up my printer and learned i was out of ink and dont get paid for another week 
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My little area of interest on the Nordschleife was trying to get a GT-R34 around it in less than six minutes on R3s. Damn nearly did it too, but I bet I couldn't these days! 
Apparently the PAL version has a shorter wait at the start, I can't remember how much by. Only a few seconds, anyway.
Well, if you find the NSX too easy, you could always try a Nissan 300ZX instead
DE
Apparently the PAL version has a shorter wait at the start, I can't remember how much by. Only a few seconds, anyway.
Well, if you find the NSX too easy, you could always try a Nissan 300ZX instead
DE
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That explains why I won mission 34 by 3 and a half seconds! It seemed a bit strange, with my driving 
. Oh, and the tyre combo made a slight difference... I still managed 297.34 with it, even though i lost my good setup. It just seems to pull out on me when it reaches 290... I'd post a pic, but i've 'lost' my camera . And i managed a 298.3 with the Takata, without any major tuning yet. Trick is: Redline it all you want. The power curve doesn't drop at all. Just drive backwards to find where it stops
-Macca
P.S. Just to interest, i did license test S-16 in 6'50.215, just to prove i'm a bloody Nurb fanatic
. Oh, and the tyre combo made a slight difference... I still managed 297.34 with it, even though i lost my good setup. It just seems to pull out on me when it reaches 290... I'd post a pic, but i've 'lost' my camera . And i managed a 298.3 with the Takata, without any major tuning yet. Trick is: Redline it all you want. The power curve doesn't drop at all. Just drive backwards to find where it stops -Macca
P.S. Just to interest, i did license test S-16 in 6'50.215, just to prove i'm a bloody Nurb fanatic
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By the time you've gone all the way around the total differences make the required PAL lap time 8 seconds slower I think, which leads a lot of people to (incorrectly) think that the PAL version is easier. However, as the 300mph club knows only too well, some cars are slower in the PAL version and the Mission 34 Merc' seems to be one of these, essentially averaging out the time differences.
In short, it's hard whichever version you have.
After doing a good 500 miles of runs in the Tommy Kaira yesterday alone, it'll be good to get a change. The Takata Dome will actually be a new car for me, so I'm certainly up for seeing what it's capable of. 👍
Very few people seem to have seen this post, which was originally made in the wheelie trick thread. Now, it only came to my attention whilst browsing I-Runners Italian GT4 forum, but from my crude web based translation I believe that it's legit to GTPlanet rules (in terms of no wheelie, no going backwards etc.). Sadly, there's no video of this specific run (although I have seen a 611.xxkph run from the same user, which is about 379.xxmph), and we only know the exact speed in kph.I did 614.26 (381.xx mph) with my Tommy Kaira (PAL edition)
scusa Audi se ti ho rubato il msg..ma di inglese ne capisco poco
Regardless, it gave me a good reason to bump up my own record, just to be sure either way. I hope EddieVedder is able to improve his speed and post it here officially; if I-Runner gets involved as well, we could see some nice 3-way action for the overall record.
Anyway, here's the new speed:
Tommy Kaira ZZII '00 @ 382.45mph [screen] [screen (kph)] [video] [YouTube]
Apologies go to Greycap, for making the 300mph logo 'out of date'.
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You mean it's equally easy whichever version you haveMSBy the time you've gone all the way around the total differences make the required PAL lap time 8 seconds slower I think, which leads a lot of people to (incorrectly) think that the PAL version is easier. However, as the 300mph club knows only too well, some cars are slower in the PAL version and the Mission 34 Merc' seems to be one of these, essentially averaging out the time differences.
In short, it's hard whichever version you have.
I feel glad that there's something I can do better than you, with what the rest of your post contains!
Nice, and looking at your Tommykaira's handling characteristics, I don't think you're the only one who needs a break! Let's see who can get the record firstMS
Even though I knew about this, I'm still somewhat in awe that you put your speed up "just in case" someone else got near it here
I've already offered my congratulations, but you should really have them again. Excellent work! 👍
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Well Dark Elite, I dont think i could do it in the 300ZX... well I can try . Also mcsqueeg
I also have got the TVR Speed 12 up to 300MPH well exactly 300.15MPH and I WILL beat your speed, but untill then thats what i have gotten. 👍
. Also mcsqueegI also have got the TVR Speed 12 up to 300MPH well exactly 300.15MPH and I WILL beat your speed
, but untill then thats what i have gotten. 👍
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The TVR has had a lot more interest than the 300ZX, so if you reckon you can take the record in the TVR, why can't you get the 300ZX there?
I like a bit confidence in new members. That way, they feel they absolutely have to keep trying until they finally manage what they said they'd do
DE
I like a bit confidence in new members. That way, they feel they absolutely have to keep trying until they finally manage what they said they'd do
DE
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Ya true, I'm pretty sure I can get the 300ZX up to that speed. I just get side tracked with other cars but I'll give it a try
but I'll give it a try
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congrats to the new record MasterStorm 
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The other reason I like confidence in new members - it makes old ones feel good about themselves
[QUOTE='92_NSX_Type_R]Ya true, I'm pretty sure I can get the 300ZX up to that speed. I just get side tracked with other cars
but I'll give it a try[/QUOTE]Playing a dangerous game with your reputation now DE
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