Time Trial #63 880PP Formula GT/480PP Subaru Impreza

[nowayback]

I was running a race with wrx 10 ... after thought to do test track for acceleration for TT. Wow i was so much faster, esp accel. After awhile i realized i still had the sports hard on!!! So it seems that an upgrade in tires does help accel out of corners,...prob braking too

 

[matej2547]

I watched my replay for curiosity, how can you affirm you don't see smoke coming out from my tires? There are at least 2 points, where it smokes visibly. More precisely at the casinò and at the grand hotel. Watch better

No problem, you are right about that. Later today I tested the car with softs and in my case the difference in times wasnt so big, somewhere about a second. Based on that test and how the car behaves in some corners on softs, my opinion is that even a car on softs cant have that much grip in corners from what I saw in the replay. So if you say you re using hards ok I believe you, but explaine how did you drove a sector half a second faster than anybody else, when its obvious in the replay you didnt drove it on the limit of the cars potencials? Im just curious, not accusing you, how is that possible with a legit car, 70/90 aero or whatever you use that all of us can use also?

 

[Spurgy 777]

No problem, you are right about that. Later today I tested the car with softs and in my case the difference in times wasnt so big, somewhere about a second. Based on that test and how the car behaves in some corners on softs, my opinion is that even a car on softs cant have that much grip in corners from what I saw in the replay. So if you say you re using hards ok I believe you, but explaine how did you drove a sector half a second faster than anybody else, when its obvious in the replay you didnt drove it on the limit of the cars potencials? Im just curious, not accusing you, how is that possible with a legit car, 70/90 aero or whatever you use that all of us can use also?

He told me it was his setup, I tried it and you won't be surprised to hear it wasn't anything special

 

[Mikos_87]

Could someone explain to me why if immortal do 1:09:4 is not cheating, instead if someone new player is doing the same time is he a cheater? Are you sure immortal is cheating? No you can't. As the other player.

I explained in the in the previous post that no one can use other tires. Just hard racing o type (C), but if someone use type (C) is visible in the replay. So if you see racing hard, he has racing hard. Full stop.

Right to point out, i modified my setup, to do better 2nd and 3rd sector. And I did, but but this involves a worst first sector, infact now i did in 18:7 like you. 18.3 was very lucky, in fact I was never able to replicate it.

Then think about what you want...i'm tired to read: compare the speed, no smooke, bla bla... See my replay now and tell me if there is no smoke coming out from tires, traction problem etc...

 

[Spurgy 777]

Could someone explain to me why if immortal do 1:09:4 is not cheating, instead if someone new player is doing the same time is he a cheater? Are you sure immortal is cheating? No you can't. As the other player.

I explained in the in the previous post that no one can use other tires. Just hard racing o type (C), but if someone use type (C) is visible in the replay. So if you see racing hard, he has racing hard. Full stop.

Right to point out, i modified my setup, to do better 2nd and 3rd sector. And I did, but but this involves a worst first sector, infact now i did in 18:7 like you. 18.3 was very lucky, in fact I was never able to replicate it.

Then think about what you want...i'm tired to read: compare the speed, no smooke, bla bla... See my replay now and tell me if there is no smoke coming out from tires, traction problem etc...

Because there aren't any corners where Immortal appears to be definitely going past the cars limit, you went 99mph around T2, way past what is possible. Your car is also a lot slower in a straight line than it should be even with minimum weight and power.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

You might not be intentionally cheating Mikos_87 but some editing from before might have caused something to go wrong. If you managed to go somehow much faster than someone who is known to drive very close to the limit and consistently then it creates question marks on legitimacy. Even if you are known fast driver, to pull out 4 tenths in one sector without using all the track by luck is unlikely. People who are known to be fast drivers think IMMORTALPILOT's lap is legit as sectors are possible with car and from also my experience, his laps are legit in other TTs.

 

[Mikos_87]

Probably impossible. I would think the people who are cheating will be able to though. Must be annoying for IMMORTALPILOT putting a lot of effort on TT and gets beaten by someone cheating. Need to somehow get PD aware of the cheating going on, make the game so it checks more things.

No problem, you are right about that. Later today I tested the car with softs and in my case the difference in times wasnt so big, somewhere about a second. Based on that test and how the car behaves in some corners on softs, my opinion is that even a car on softs cant have that much grip in corners from what I saw in the replay. So if you say you re using hards ok I believe you, but explaine how did you drove a sector half a second faster than anybody else, when its obvious in the replay you didnt drove it on the limit of the cars potencials? Im just curious, not accusing you, how is that possible with a legit car, 70/90 aero or whatever you use that all of us can use also?

I don't know how i can suggest you the best way to do that first sector, i admit I was very very lucky. There was no way to replicate it. The old setup allowed me to be quick in the first sector, but I was losing tenths in the second and third. To recover them I was wrong the first. To do a good casino I'm with the pedal pressed, even if only slightly, but pressed. Just a little gas. In this way you can keep the car on course wery well, and gain a couple of tenths. I don't know how to explain you in other way

Because there aren't any corners where Immortal appears to be definitely going past the cars limit, you went 99mph around T2, way past what is possible. Your car is also a lot slower in a straight line than it should be even with minimum weight and power.

yeah is slower, because is tried and tested and did an oil change, so fewer horses.

You might not be intentionally cheating Mikos_87 but some editing from before might have caused something to go wrong. If you managed to go somehow much faster than someone who is known to drive very close to the limit and consistently then it creates question marks on legitimacy. Even if you are known fast driver, to pull out 4 tenths in one sector without using all the track by luck is unlikely. People who are known to be fast drivers think IMMORTALPILOT's lap is legit as sectors are possible with car and from also my experience, his laps are legit in other TTs.

You are right... but i saw with my eyes lots of best tt's drivers cheating, so I do not trust anybody anymore.

 

[nofearmx94]

Look at the results of the ferrari tt here last year, who went 1,2? Was there hacks then? If there wasn't thats the same two goin at it, they are both on my friends list and there is no evidence of receiving modded/hacked part, maybe they receive them offline if thats possible i dont know i think its two top dawgs goin at it just like arguments that happen in the real pits goin on on the forum, respect to all keeping it real

 

[Saidur_Ali]

You are right... but i saw with my eyes lots of best tt's drivers cheating, so I do not trust anybody anymore.

I personally haven't really seen any cheating by top drivers to deceive, only ones that have said they are. It is usually quite easy to tell though. I normally can match top drivers best sector times or come quite close, if I lose a lot of time on straights and corners without knowing how to go that quick and knowing my setup is good, then I might begin questioning. This scenario has yet to happen for me regarding GT.

 

[matej2547]

You can say whatever you want about that sector, but still hard to believe that, I dont believe in luck, only in skill. I dont see a point in this because I wont agree with you, you wont agree with me so ok, no problem and no hard feelings but I have a suggestion for you, for Immortal, and for that Cheater currently on p1. You all meet together online, and drive three time trials, every with anothers drivers tune, also somebody from here watching you driving. If Immortal dont win all three by at least half a quarter a second than you are ok, if he do that than you erase your times. This shouldnt be big of a challenge if you are driving a legit car!

 

[nowayback]

I think the cheater at p1 proves you can cheat on this f1 race. If someone was that good, he wouldnt waste a result like that without putting his real name.

 

[Spurgy 777]

You can say whatever you want about that sector, but still hard to believe that, I dont believe in luck, only in skill. I dont see a point in this because I wont agree with you, you wont agree with me so ok, no problem and no hard feelings but I have a suggestion for you, for Immortal, and for that Cheater currently on p1. You all meet together online, and drive three time trials, every with anothers drivers tune, also somebody from here watching you driving. If Immortal dont win all three by at least half a quarter a second than you are ok, if he do that than you erase your times. This shouldnt be big of a challenge if you are driving a legit car!

That wouldn't solve anything because the cheaters would still bring they're hacked cars along which would still give a similar result to the TT. And as far as I know you can't delete your times, so it would just be a pointless exercise

 

[matej2547]

I think the cheater at p1 proves you can cheat on this f1 race. If someone was that good, he wouldnt waste a result like that without putting his real name.

that make sense ...

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

Alot of posting going on here.
What is the nature of this weeks cheat?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Alot of posting going on here.
What is the nature of this weeks cheat?

Subaru TT seems to be tyres used are Sport Hards when special comfort tyres are selected. Some people seem to have managed also to make it appear as Comfort Softs. Ones that show as Sport Hards still stay on leaderboard unless right at top of leaderboard and it is obvious.

The Formula GT TT seems to be downforce related, more than maximum possible being used.

Well done to IMMORTALPILOT for improving time, must be one awesome lap to go that fast 👍.

 

[nowayback]

One thing this f1 TT has accomplished , I am now rooting for Impilot to beat the cheaters

 

[Petros]

Good job Immortal
You are now best with abs on/off and the fastest one between a cheaters

 

[Spurgy 777]

One thing this f1 TT has accomplished , I am now rooting for Impilot to beat the cheaters

It's not possible for him to get no.1 spot now, I'm just hoping they stop beating me, down to 8th, although I just got beaten by Mixi who was legit last time I checked, there's also this guy called B4NN4MICHEATER in 9th who will probably beat me soon, and I'm guessing he's cheating too

 

[matej2547]

That wouldn't solve anything because the cheaters would still bring they're hacked cars along which would still give a similar result to the TT. And as far as I know you can't delete your times, so it would just be a pointless exercise

The point is that they drive each others hacked cars, if Immortal is that good he claims he is he would easily win all three, trading cars and setups is the biggest problem in this case so you are right, it cant be done this way, but we can find a way if they agree to this type of challenge! I think I somehow deleted one of my times on the other account I used once in the past but dont really remember how, or maybe Im just mixing GT5 with some other game.

 

[IMMORTALPILOT]

Thanks guys its very frustrating to see all the Cheaters I still try to improve my time.
I have noticed the most Cheaters now use Downforce hack and drive very slow on the straight. Mikos dont talk **** we know you are a cheater a FGT with STOCK weight also with oil is not that slow on the straight like your FGT you dont need to talk ****.
The FGT from this Guys looks like a F10 in the Corners the F10 is on the straight also same fast like from this cheaters

 

[Lock2Lock]

Sorry I ended up having something prevent me from getting online last night.

The Formula GT TT seems to be downforce related, more than maximum possible being used.

Just to let you guys know if you do not know, if you adjust downforce in anyway, it will affect the car's PP accordingly. They would have to lower the HP to get it match the PP

So say if the top adjustment is 100. If I go hybrid the car and change it to 200, the PP system will raise the PP accordingly

Thanks guys its very frustrating to see all the Cheaters I still try to improve my time.
I have noticed the most Cheaters now use Downforce hack and drive very slow on the straight. Mikos dont talk **** we know you are a cheater a FGT with STOCK weight also with oil is not that slow on the straight like your FGT you dont need to talk ****.
The FGT from this Guys looks like a F10 in the Corners the F10 is on the straight also same fast like from this cheaters

I bet it is frustrating. Like I said above, probably is added downforce and lowered HP. That's exactly what that sounds like.

The PP system cannot be cheated. So if they did raise the downforce, they then would have to lower the HP

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Thanks guys its very frustrating to see all the Cheaters I still try to improve my time.
I have noticed the most Cheaters now use Downforce hack and drive very slow on the straight. Mikos dont talk **** we know you are a cheater a FGT with STOCK weight also with oil is not that slow on the straight like your FGT you dont need to talk ****.
The FGT from this Guys looks like a F10 in the Corners the F10 is on the straight also same fast like from this cheaters

Apparently you didn't see this.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8545362#post8545362

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

It's not possible for him to get no.1 spot now, I'm just hoping they stop beating me, down to 8th, although I just got beaten by Mixi who was legit last time I checked, there's also this guy called B4NN4MICHEATER in 9th who will probably beat me soon, and I'm guessing he's cheating too

If you read the comments exchange on the Youtube ImmortalPilot video, you would have rough guess who's trying to make B4NN4MI look bad, they are hating each other now - the B4NN4MICHEATER might even make it very close to number 2 -I don't think he needs to cheat to get there.

Look at the quite close update time : 07/06 18:48:04 and 07/06 18:17:43

1:09.3xxx is a crazy fast time for a legit car, or is it ?

 

[Lock2Lock]

Hi, guys. I decided to join, first of all because this is a wonderful forum, but also to explain some things, after many tests.

I understood how the tire issue works. I'll try to explain it to clarify once and for all.

In the TT with the Subaru for example, if someone has unlocked all the tires, since the limitation of the room is "comfort soft", the only tires you can use are "comfort" or lower and in particular :

-comfort hard
-comfort medium
-comfort soft
-comfort hard (c)
-comfort medium (c)
-comfort soft (c)

So, if someone uses comfort soft (c), the game doesn't recognize them, and assign the stock tires, ( those that you find buying the car from the dealer). In this case sports hard. This is the reason because in the replay appears "sports tires". And you can do a better time not becouse are using comfort (c), but because you are driving with "sports hard". For my tests there is no differnce between comfort and comfort (c). I I did the same time.

So you will understand that with the FGT apply the same rules. So NO ONE can use racing soft. Just because the allowed tired are all those from "racing hard" or lower, with the only exception of "racing hard (c)". If you use these last one, in the replay you can't see something different, becouse FGT has as stock tires "racing hard".

I use stock "racing hard" not (c), even if the same.

So apparently is impossibile to cheat in FGT TT. I don't know if there are any other cheats.

Cheers

p.s. immortal take it easy...racing soft... please I think you are cheating too. You accuse me and I will. I consider not a good thing to do the 2nd best time whith another account.

p.p.s I apologize for my english

Correct.

Also you forgot they can use Type V too. But honestly if they are cornering fast it most likely is Type C

 

[skyline1683]

Well just spent around two hour with my mate in a lounge testing all these hidden tyres and also with turning the downforce up to see the effects.
I used a set of racing hard (c) and will say that my cornering speeds from entry to exit was nearly 10% higher than standard racing hards.

We also had ago at turning up down force to 80 -100 and it did up the PP of the car so dropped the power to bring car back down to the 880 and found the car would go round corner like its on rails even with standard hards at the cost of speed on the straight but adding 100kg of ballast and upping power made the car more realistic on straights but still very fast in corners.

We ran this car against mine witch i sit at 154th with exact same set up on gears and suspension in a lounge race and recorded how much faster the hidden tyres and downforce have a effect

My friend is editing the video as we speak and will upload the link shortly

 

[Lock2Lock]

Well just spent around two hour with my mate in a lounge testing all these hidden tyres and also with turning the downforce up to see the effects.
I used a set of racing hard (c) and will say that my cornering speeds from entry to exit was nearly 10% higher than standard racing hards.

We also had ago at turning up down force to 80 -100 and it did up the PP of the car so dropped the power to bring car back down to the 880 and found the car would go round corner like its on rails even with standard hards at the cost of speed on the straight but adding 100kg of ballast and upping power made the car more realistic on straights but still very fast in corners.

We ran this car against mine witch i sit at 154th with exact same set up on gears and suspension in a lounge race and recorded how much faster the hidden tyres and downforce have a effect

My friend is editing the video as we speak and will upload the link shortly

That horizontal grip coming into play right there. Like I posted earlier the Type C is horizontal grip. The Type V is inline grip

Thanks for testing that. I have been busy all day and haven't been able to get online to test at all.

 

[Sphinx]

Can anyone tell me what is the maximum downforce (front & rear) for a legit Formula GT car?






Edit:

Anyone???

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

70/90

 

[Sphinx]

70/90

Thank you, Oshawa-Joe. 👍

 

[Sphinx]

Mikos_87,
I have a question for you;

Can you comfirm that the Formula GT car you're using to achieve your times in this time trial hasn't in any way been altered by way of hacking, either by using a hack tool, via a hex editor, or by any other method?

Before replying may I suggest you check and double check your car before giving me your answer.

It's very late now (need sleep) so I will come back later today to see if you've replied.

Naughty mod is sorry for the double post.