Time Trial Discussion

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Just getting into GT7 (only recently got my PS5) Haven't played in years but I have great memories of the Nordschleife from the GT5 days. Really fell in love with the challenge of the track.

On top of that, I love the '02 NSX, so this event seems tailor made for fun! Had a couple of sessions so far, and was able to get down to 7:05 using Kie's tune. Silver seems like a potentially achievable goal.

Seems there are a couple of new tunes to try also - maybe I'll learn something about tuning in the process as well :)

Great stuff - gotta love the Ring!
 
Geauxgreddy
I'm hoping there isn't much more time to find because I'm at like 2.8% and I REALLY don't want to go at it again. I just don't find the combo enjoyable.

The ghost isn't resetting for me either. PS5. I can hang with it until the long up hill back "straight" then it's gone.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're actually about 1.5s outside of gold right now.
 
First of all thank to all of you who are sharing their setups.
Tried at least the ones from @Mistah_MCA, @NekoPufferPPP and @Metalgear9493 / Jester. Each setup is good on its own and for me the best for my driving style I was the one by Metalgear. Managed to get down 6,58 with a second or two to come off.

Happy to try some of other ones as well and then focus to the one which works best. But gold will be a challenge again...🙊
 
I actually hope they do a tuning time trial on a more reasonable track. I've tried so many tunes now and the times end up similar, so I can't tell what really works. Some definitely feel better/ are easier to drive and people are still setting fast laps with them, but people are also setting fast times with tunes I find very tricky to drive. So maybe on a normal course tuning would be more of an equaliser than a differentiator. Would be interesting is if they could enable tuning for a time trial combo that has already happened so we could compare.

The nekopuffer one has the best values on the setup summary it seems, and feels good. I also like metalgears tune, and it's good to know it is capable of such a low time (even though I won't get close to it). Praianos tune is also easy to drive, but I am not sure if it comes at a time cost (although I doubt it). I'll probably jump back and forth a bit for a little longer before I should probably just decide on one to try to get a solid time in.
 
skidmark69
I actually hope they do a tuning time trial on a more reasonable track. I've tried so many tunes now and the times end up similar, so I can't tell what really works. Some definitely feel better/ are easier to drive and people are still setting fast laps with them, but people are also setting fast times with tunes I find very tricky to drive. So maybe on a normal course tuning would be more of an equaliser than a differentiator. Would be interesting is if they could enable tuning for a time trial combo that has already happened so we could compare.

The nekopuffer one has the best values on the setup summary it seems, and feels good. I also like metalgears tune, and it's good to know it is capable of such a low time (even though I won't get close to it). Praianos tune is also easy to drive, but I am not sure if it comes at a time cost (although I doubt it). I'll probably jump back and forth a bit for a little longer before I should probably just decide on one to try to get a solid time in.
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Every time you tweek a car you have to race diffrent and it ends in a back and forth.
Take the one you feel most compfy with and then try to improve youre own racing.
 
Down to 6’52.380 now (NekoPuffer setup) and that’s with messing up the final corner, poor entry and then hitting the barrier. Besides that it felt really good so... mixed emotions. Fairly relieved but shame to do such a stupid mistake when the lap’s pretty much over. I’ll probably have some more attempts given what happened but would prefer to pass this TT towards the archives now.

Did some maths and if my current time is supposed to fall out of 3,0% then #1 has to reach 6’40.368.
 
NAXEHT
Down to 6’52.380 now (NekoPuffer setup) and that’s with messing up the final corner, poor entry and then hitting the barrier. Besides that it felt really good so... mixed emotions. Fairly relieved but shame to do such a stupid mistake when the lap’s pretty much over. I’ll probably have some more attempts given what happened but would prefer to pass this TT towards the archives now.

Did some maths and if my current time is supposed to fall out of 3,0% then #1 has to reach 6’40.368.
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You’re safe. P2 tried again and there’s a virtual tie at the front. They’re getting close to the limit. I don’t think we’ll see significant drops like the previous days.
 
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My first attempt with Mie's tune. I ran 3 laps before jacking up the 4th. I then restarted over and over until I stopped making mistakes. When I finally had a (relatively) clean lap coming onto the final long straight, I figured I would barely break 7 minutes. I certainly wasn't expecting to make THIS big of a jump! :eek:

I think I've found the tune I'm going to roll with the remainder of the TT. It's a little bit slippier than @NekoPufferPP's, but it's faster for my style of driving. Gold MIGHT not necessarily be out of reach, though it will be difficult. I still need a second and a half. Probably more in 9 days time.
 
QTheRacer_31
You’re safe. P2 tried again and there’s a virtual tie at the front. They’re getting close to the limit. I don’t think we’ll see significant drops like the previous days.
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I hope and think so too but it's difficult to feel secure with tuning on such a long lap. I watched the ghost of Rafale-M and it looks quite faultless but also difficult for me to say with total conviction and certainty given I'm +9,5 secs.
 
ikon_313
After getting back from family Christmas festivities last night I had some time to run about 500km and managed to knock a good 4.5 seconds off my PB from Thursday/Friday. At first I struggled to find the right setup, but eventually sorted out the forklift feel (car felt like steering with the rear wheels). Built two different NSXs whereas the 3.4l stroked/bored up car got me better lap times. The setup I ended up with feels a lot more stable and gave me enough confidence to start pushing the car and myself more. Once I got the hang of stabilizing the car with throttle control and steering input the seconds started dropping off my lap times. In the end, I really had a blast with tuning and the driving experience. Finding the right balance while occasionally going a bit sideways is so much fun. So rewarding getting clean(ish) laps in. And the pure NA sound <3

At first I was sceptic about a TT with tuning available. Predictably huge gaps between aliens and the average Joe plus so much room for exploits. For me it has turned out to be the most fun and engaging one so far. A two week challenge with only driving a single or even multiple cars without tuning got boring really quick – I can only improve so much with my lap times and after usually hitting a wall after 3-4 days I tend to lose interest in the game until the next TT comes up.

Edit: time set on PS4 with DS4.

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Nice time!, I'm hitting kind of a barrier here at 6:59.5, cause the car is still a bit loose, but I'm on a completely different setup, so I'll give yours a try 😁, thanks dor posting #teamDS4 🤣
 
TumeK5
You shouldn't focus on top speed, when you've got like a hundred turns to deal with...
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There are many turns to deal with, I agree. But allow me to share my reasoning here, maybe I am wrong, but just hear me out. I searched now on internet and 1 km/h corresponds to 0,2778 meters distance. So if @250Cal is reaching 2 km/h more than me, that's is 0,5556 meters per second and roughly guessing we have at least a minute of straight on the Nurburgring , that comes to approximately 33 meters. Since we are chasing milliseconds here, could 33 meters theoretically be a second at the end?
I am aware that everything can't be put so simplified and in reality it might be maybe half of my calculations but hey, when I reach very last turn and accelerating like crazy to finish line, I will be thinking "oh i could have been done already".
I will try and hopefully gain half a second, and will as you advise keep my focus on turns too!
 
Barareklam
So if 250Cal is reaching 2 km/h more than me, that's is 0,5556 meters per second and roughly guessing we have at least a minute of straight on the Nurburgring , that comes to approximately 33 meters.
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You forgot about the part where the top speed only occurs at the end of the straight :lol:

If the entire straight was taken at 288km/h compared to your 286km/h, then yes it would be a huge difference.
 
TumeK5
You forgot about the part where the top speed only occurs at the end of the straight :lol:

If the entire straight was taken at 288km/h compared to your 286km/h, then yes it would be a huge difference.
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Sure that top speed do that, but isn't it so that when I reach let's say 280, @250Cal might be on 281 or 282 km/h ? 🤔
 
TumeK5
You forgot about the part where the top speed only occurs at the end of the straight :lol:

If the entire straight was taken at 288km/h compared to your 286km/h, then yes it would be a huge difference.
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I mean you could be 2km/h ahead the whole straight through acceleration as well. But yeah average speed across the straight is what matters and says more about the time. But then we also have sector times to judge so thats more accurate to look at. But that's not really readily available in replays.

When tuning it's probably a good idea to look at the top times speed to see what they're achieving. But in that case the entry speed onto the straight also has to be considered. They could just be reaching that higher speed cause of a better entry unless youre redlining at max speed for a while.

Often with tuning it seems you balance cornering stability and acceleration speed with straight line speed. Not sure what it's better to tune for on a track like this.

Maybe for mortal drivers giving up some straight line speed is advantageous in order to accelerate faster out of corners after overbreaking or missing the apex, and have more stability in the car.
 
@Barareklam

It coms all down of how much you are willing or able to reduce aero but maintain corner entry and corner exit speed. You have nothing from it to sacrifice cornerspeed for better topspeed. Bad cornering cost you more then you gain with top speed at the end :)
 
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Barareklam
There are many turns to deal with, I agree. But allow me to share my reasoning here, maybe I am wrong, but just hear me out. I searched now on internet and 1 km/h corresponds to 0,2778 meters distance. So if @250Cal is reaching 2 km/h more than me, that's is 0,5556 meters per second and roughly guessing we have at least a minute of straight on the Nurburgring , that comes to approximately 33 meters. Since we are chasing milliseconds here, could 33 meters theoretically be a second at the end?
I am aware that everything can't be put so simplified and in reality it might be maybe half of my calculations but hey, when I reach very last turn and accelerating like crazy to finish line, I will be thinking "oh i could have been done already".
I will try and hopefully gain half a second, and will as you advise keep my focus on turns too!
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If you can make up time in a straightline, that's "free" as far as I'm concerned.

Obviously there are components to that, such as the exit speed from the previous corner and rate of acceleration.
 

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