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I just dropped it by half a second with praiaino's tune, should be safe now
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Used @sdi_03's tune. It wasn't too bad. I felt the rear end stepped out a bit more than I would like, but it became more comfortable as I got used to the car. There is definitely some more time in the car with some practice. I will likely give Praiano's tune a try at some point, too.
Nearly forgot, my time was 1:28.921.
Nearly forgot, my time was 1:28.921.
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(Only for slow racers like me, fast people please ignore)
I'm someone who doesn't take time trial seriously, sets just enough laps to score bronze. Repeat when I drop out of bronze. Posting here because I may have accidentally discovered great gear ratios which propelled me to over 1 second faster than where I should have been. This gear ratio combined with low-end supercharger practically made me feel maximum torque 95% of the time.
I used it with praiano's tune but with following modification:
1. Low-end supercharger
2. Maximum front downforce
3. Keep playing with ECU and power restriction until you arrive at 443bhp
4. My gear ratio as shown above.
Just posting it here in case it helps someone. I got 1:30.051 seconds. Without this gear ratio, I was getting 1:31.xxx seconds.
I'm someone who doesn't take time trial seriously, sets just enough laps to score bronze. Repeat when I drop out of bronze. Posting here because I may have accidentally discovered great gear ratios which propelled me to over 1 second faster than where I should have been. This gear ratio combined with low-end supercharger practically made me feel maximum torque 95% of the time.
I used it with praiano's tune but with following modification:
1. Low-end supercharger
2. Maximum front downforce
3. Keep playing with ECU and power restriction until you arrive at 443bhp
4. My gear ratio as shown above.
Just posting it here in case it helps someone. I got 1:30.051 seconds. Without this gear ratio, I was getting 1:31.xxx seconds.
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Find the tunes listed in this post......
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I put some time on track with each tune to compare them. Gave every tune 3 laps without TC and 3 laps with it on 1.
Each one ran easy mid to high 29's in that time with optimals all at or just below Gold.
For info, I am FAR from an expert sim racer and sometimes struggle to overcome the old reflexes that are fast on a track but lose time in GT. Using a GT Pro DD wheel setup.
My thoughts..........
JEJE: Everywhere but the corkscrew, brake early. If you think you're braking early enough, you're not. Trail braking is tough as the front end grip just isn't there. Stable once into the turn, but super late to get on the throttle or it'll spin. If you are smooth and carry a lot of corner speed this will work for you.
Mistah: Honestly, this is the one I struggled with the most. Optimal was mid 29 and took me 3 tries just to finish a lap without spinning. With TC on forget it as it is just constantly cutting the power through the whole lap. Also brake REALLY early as it doesn't have the front end grip to trail brake deep. If you watch his lap breakdown and follow it closely you can go fast with this, but any other driving style and Gold seems like a struggle.
SDI: This one felt the most like the real car to me. If you load the front (within reason) it will brake and turn. Tail happy (both throttle and momentum) but very manageable both with and without TC. TC will require you to keep it smoother on exit as it still slows it down. I actually cut my first Gold lap with this one with TC on.
Praiano based: This is another one that has SUPER high gearing. All these remind me of my first car with it's highway gears and 3 speed trans. There is inherent understeer here as well, but keeping the front balanced will get the car to rotate. Fairly stable on throttle on exit as well.
GT Italia: Brake early and don't load the front, otherwise this was a surprisingly predictable setup.
Dezzerelli: Fun. So fun. If your driving style is best described as ape like. This is your tune. It would much rather under or oversteer than just turn. While others penalize you for not being smooth and stable, this one rewards you for it. Fastest time was set by throwing it around.
Djolliea: Super stable, easy to run fast. Complete opposite of the highway tunes. Will wear out whatever buttons you are using to shift, but you'll have a Gold at least. Well planted on most corner exits as it is always high in the revs so even if the tires do spin, it runs out of RPM and catches itself.
If you are struggling to not spin without TC, the last 5 tunes listed will all run a Gold time with TC set to 1.
As I said in a previous post, there is no perfect setup for everyone. If you want to maximize your time, try a few different tunes, note what you like and hate about each one and then use the parts you like to make your own.
Time Trial Discussion
This is a statistical analysis of the overall result of 3 TTs, especially oriented to understand correlations between Dailies Ranks and TT Ranks, if any. I’ve chosen the last one (Catalunya Gr3) as a quite “standard” TT, but also I’ve chosen the Sardegna one (probably the most easy, looking at...
www.gtplanet.net
I put some time on track with each tune to compare them. Gave every tune 3 laps without TC and 3 laps with it on 1.
Each one ran easy mid to high 29's in that time with optimals all at or just below Gold.
For info, I am FAR from an expert sim racer and sometimes struggle to overcome the old reflexes that are fast on a track but lose time in GT. Using a GT Pro DD wheel setup.
My thoughts..........
JEJE: Everywhere but the corkscrew, brake early. If you think you're braking early enough, you're not. Trail braking is tough as the front end grip just isn't there. Stable once into the turn, but super late to get on the throttle or it'll spin. If you are smooth and carry a lot of corner speed this will work for you.
Mistah: Honestly, this is the one I struggled with the most. Optimal was mid 29 and took me 3 tries just to finish a lap without spinning. With TC on forget it as it is just constantly cutting the power through the whole lap. Also brake REALLY early as it doesn't have the front end grip to trail brake deep. If you watch his lap breakdown and follow it closely you can go fast with this, but any other driving style and Gold seems like a struggle.
SDI: This one felt the most like the real car to me. If you load the front (within reason) it will brake and turn. Tail happy (both throttle and momentum) but very manageable both with and without TC. TC will require you to keep it smoother on exit as it still slows it down. I actually cut my first Gold lap with this one with TC on.
Praiano based: This is another one that has SUPER high gearing. All these remind me of my first car with it's highway gears and 3 speed trans. There is inherent understeer here as well, but keeping the front balanced will get the car to rotate. Fairly stable on throttle on exit as well.
GT Italia: Brake early and don't load the front, otherwise this was a surprisingly predictable setup.
Dezzerelli: Fun. So fun. If your driving style is best described as ape like. This is your tune. It would much rather under or oversteer than just turn. While others penalize you for not being smooth and stable, this one rewards you for it. Fastest time was set by throwing it around.
Djolliea: Super stable, easy to run fast. Complete opposite of the highway tunes. Will wear out whatever buttons you are using to shift, but you'll have a Gold at least. Well planted on most corner exits as it is always high in the revs so even if the tires do spin, it runs out of RPM and catches itself.
If you are struggling to not spin without TC, the last 5 tunes listed will all run a Gold time with TC set to 1.
As I said in a previous post, there is no perfect setup for everyone. If you want to maximize your time, try a few different tunes, note what you like and hate about each one and then use the parts you like to make your own.
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Session B this morning, blasted an hour and a half on this beautiful circuit, I love Laguna, but it is so damn tricky to nail, but what did I learn so far ...
Corner 3... slow in, fast out, I enter almost to slow for comfort but in some way I'm the fastest that way..
Corner 4 brake early and turn in early so you can shortshift to 4th quickly, but my brain thinks I have to apex later 🤣
Corner 6...you bastard
Corckscrew.... exiting here is like leaving work on friday, you want it to be a quickly as possible, but it never is 🤣
Corner 9.... is a weird tire eating understeery corner wich I haven't nailed once yet 🤣
BUT......a sloppy lap doesnt mean it is slow guys, my tip?
Even if you mis an apex in a sector just keep going, because if you look at my lap, you can make a whole lot of mistakes and run a comfy gold time!
1:28.590
If only we could do a perfect lap.....
Corner 3... slow in, fast out, I enter almost to slow for comfort but in some way I'm the fastest that way..
Corner 4 brake early and turn in early so you can shortshift to 4th quickly, but my brain thinks I have to apex later 🤣
Corner 6...you bastard
Corckscrew.... exiting here is like leaving work on friday, you want it to be a quickly as possible, but it never is 🤣
Corner 9.... is a weird tire eating understeery corner wich I haven't nailed once yet 🤣
BUT......a sloppy lap doesnt mean it is slow guys, my tip?
Even if you mis an apex in a sector just keep going, because if you look at my lap, you can make a whole lot of mistakes and run a comfy gold time!
1:28.590
If only we could do a perfect lap.....
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First of all I want to thank you for having tested all the cars of the tuners and for having made a return of all that you could feel while trying them. After thank you for your feedback for my car. If I understand correctly, it lacks grip at the front, which prevents it from accelerating early enough in the corkscrew?
By the way, I use the TC at 1 because with the TC at 0, it's just impossible for me to control the rear of the car when exiting corners during acceleration. I'm not a driving alien so I was only able to do the 1:30:140 time with mistakes on the turn after the corkscrew. But I think 1:29 is achievable.
Good drive and enjoy
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I was around this lap time yesterday at the start of my session, ended up in 1:31.745 with room to improve. Happy to meet another non alien driver in the thread, I feel less bad 😅
Thanks a lot, I'll try, I am in 1:31 now, I'll gladly shave a big second 🙂
I tried the TT with the rented Mustang. It was awful, all over the place. You NEED to tune it to make it thousand times more competitive (and the sound with the race exhaust...). The car is cheap, and you'll get more back from the credits you'll get with bronze than all you will pay in parts. Plus I found it really fun, and it makes me look at tuning closer than I use too. Good opportunity to learn about that aspect of the game.
my exact feeling all along my session last evening, I just want to string a full lap without stupid mistake on half of the corners (if only it was the same half on each lap...)
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Here is my tune for the current time trial. It is based on Praiano's and Mistah MCA's tune. I've made a few adjustments that felt better for my driving style. Please note that I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to tuning, so please use this tune at your own risk.
Custom Parts:
Wide Body
Front: Type B
Side: Type A
Wing: Medium
Roll Cage: Type C
Custom Wheels: 21-inch / Wide / Wide
The gearbox doesn't have any specific setting.
I shift at around 50%. You need to be very smooth with this tune and break early. Be gentle when getting back on the throttle. The corkscrew is definitely the trickiest part to get right. I enter it in 3rd gear and exit in 4th.
At the moment, I'm at 1:28.205 and I feel like there's room for a 1:28:0, maybe 1:27:9. I have publicly shared a replay of my fastest lap and you can search it in the game.
I hope it can help you!
Custom Parts:
Wide Body
Front: Type B
Side: Type A
Wing: Medium
Roll Cage: Type C
Custom Wheels: 21-inch / Wide / Wide
The gearbox doesn't have any specific setting.
I shift at around 50%. You need to be very smooth with this tune and break early. Be gentle when getting back on the throttle. The corkscrew is definitely the trickiest part to get right. I enter it in 3rd gear and exit in 4th.
At the moment, I'm at 1:28.205 and I feel like there's room for a 1:28:0, maybe 1:27:9. I have publicly shared a replay of my fastest lap and you can search it in the game.
I hope it can help you!
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@Mistah_MCA 's tune is great, but @praiano63 's tune (with some minor tweaks) worked out even better for me:
🥳
And I really like the car, too:
🥳
And I really like the car, too:
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@2Quickrides
I saw an error. My aerodynamic downforce that I use are 120//210 and not 102//210 as noted in this table. Thanks a lot for your beautiful table.
You're welcome! My id is the same as my username here and my nickname is スポンジ. Sometimes I spend a lot of time (Trial Mountain with the Civic, Interlagos with Gr2 cars, Dragon Trail with Gr4 cars) and sometimes I don't and I just focus on getting slightly in the gold range if I can. Feel free to add me as a friend if it helps as well.
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I tried 3 of these tunes, starting with Mistah. The tune felt pretty good and was one that I thought I could stick with. I decided to try Praiano's tune based on the popularity, but just didn't feel it fit my driving style, which I have experienced on a number of other tunes I have tried. I settled on Djolliea's tune last night and got into the 28s pretty quickly. This tune has good turn in and stable exit with a little mindfulness. The shifting is extreme, but works well once you get used to going through the gear box. Hoping MasterGT throw a tune out as his NSX tune was the one I enjoyed the most on the last tuning TT.Find the tunes listed in this post......
Time Trial Discussion
This is a statistical analysis of the overall result of 3 TTs, especially oriented to understand correlations between Dailies Ranks and TT Ranks, if any. I’ve chosen the last one (Catalunya Gr3) as a quite “standard” TT, but also I’ve chosen the Sardegna one (probably the most easy, looking at...
I put some time on track with each tune to compare them. Gave every tune 3 laps without TC and 3 laps with it on 1.
Each one ran easy mid to high 29's in that time with optimals all at or just below Gold.
For info, I am FAR from an expert sim racer and sometimes struggle to overcome the old reflexes that are fast on a track but lose time in GT. Using a GT Pro DD wheel setup.
My thoughts..........
JEJE: Everywhere but the corkscrew, brake early. If you think you're braking early enough, you're not. Trail braking is tough as the front end grip just isn't there. Stable once into the turn, but super late to get on the throttle or it'll spin. If you are smooth and carry a lot of corner speed this will work for you.
Mistah: Honestly, this is the one I struggled with the most. Optimal was mid 29 and took me 3 tries just to finish a lap without spinning. With TC on forget it as it is just constantly cutting the power through the whole lap. Also brake REALLY early as it doesn't have the front end grip to trail brake deep. If you watch his lap breakdown and follow it closely you can go fast with this, but any other driving style and Gold seems like a struggle.
SDI: This one felt the most like the real car to me. If you load the front (within reason) it will brake and turn. Tail happy (both throttle and momentum) but very manageable both with and without TC. TC will require you to keep it smoother on exit as it still slows it down. I actually cut my first Gold lap with this one with TC on.
Praiano based: This is another one that has SUPER high gearing. All these remind me of my first car with it's highway gears and 3 speed trans. There is inherent understeer here as well, but keeping the front balanced will get the car to rotate. Fairly stable on throttle on exit as well.
GT Italia: Brake early and don't load the front, otherwise this was a surprisingly predictable setup.
Dezzerelli: Fun. So fun. If your driving style is best described as ape like. This is your tune. It would much rather under or oversteer than just turn. While others penalize you for not being smooth and stable, this one rewards you for it. Fastest time was set by throwing it around.
Djolliea: Super stable, easy to run fast. Complete opposite of the highway tunes. Will wear out whatever buttons you are using to shift, but you'll have a Gold at least. Well planted on most corner exits as it is always high in the revs so even if the tires do spin, it runs out of RPM and catches itself.
If you are struggling to not spin without TC, the last 5 tunes listed will all run a Gold time with TC set to 1.
As I said in a previous post, there is no perfect setup for everyone. If you want to maximize your time, try a few different tunes, note what you like and hate about each one and then use the parts you like to make your own.
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Got to say thanks to @sdi_03 for the tune on the Mustang. Wasn't sure what to expect from the car, but I had fun driving it.
Had an hour an a half this morning in VR, and it felt like I was driving a real car. Got a 1:27.7, and stopped there.
Edit: Drove without CS assistance, TC off and ABS normal.
Haven't tried other tunes, but the car felt balanced to drive. Back end can break loose, but that was very manageable.
I drive with a wheel.
Had an hour an a half this morning in VR, and it felt like I was driving a real car. Got a 1:27.7, and stopped there.
Edit: Drove without CS assistance, TC off and ABS normal.
Haven't tried other tunes, but the car felt balanced to drive. Back end can break loose, but that was very manageable.
I drive with a wheel.
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Nice work @Gomario JSP! You are on a DS4 right? My god I have nightmares of Laguna Seca on a pad, Turn 6 especially.. It was just impossible to get it right. On a wheel... It is SO much easier! This track is mega on a wheel and I'd imagine in PSVR2 it would look incredible too.
No progress for me, unfortunately I had a 5 hour power cut on Thursday and the internet has been down ever since. It's back on today so a few Daily Race C's and then I will get stuck in on this one! Still not sure which tune to run with or whether to go CS OFF. It's such a fun car I think CS OFF will be more rewarding and with Sports Soft tyres I think it's less ridiculous than the GT4 at Nurb GP. Time will tell!
Well done everyone so far, big thanks to anyone playing with and posting tunes! Such a big help, I absolutely suck at it and don't have the patience to learn how
For people that do post tunes, a little description on how to get the best out of them would be great for me also; are they understeery/oversteery, do you have to short shift or rag the nuts off it... This TT seems to be very variable in terms of the character of the cars that people create so getting the best out of them is sometimes a bit of a mystery
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Well, I went for Praiano’s tune first, it’s quick and consistent but too understeery for me. It’s a struggle to get it turned in. I want to try @sdi_03 ‘s tune but would that mean buying another Mustang?
Some big mistakes in that lap but I can see how it can be consistently fast, I’d like a car with a much sharper nose as I can feel so much time being lost at places like turn four.
I like this car, it sounds great and has many different personalities depending on the tune. This is much more fun than last weeks hell at Catalunya!
Some big mistakes in that lap but I can see how it can be consistently fast, I’d like a car with a much sharper nose as I can feel so much time being lost at places like turn four.
I like this car, it sounds great and has many different personalities depending on the tune. This is much more fun than last weeks hell at Catalunya!
I might be wrong but I think everyone uses wrong approach to tune engine.....
if acceleration performance calculation is correct I think this is THE most optimal setup (Engine wise) you can have and also less torque than most setups so you can control it better, I did 1:27.780 with really poor last corner and miss-shift to 4th gear just before finish line.....
if acceleration performance calculation is correct I think this is THE most optimal setup (Engine wise) you can have and also less torque than most setups so you can control it better, I did 1:27.780 with really poor last corner and miss-shift to 4th gear just before finish line.....
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