Time Trial Discussion

[Gomario JSP]

With the running TT at Glen I hate the start, but it's better than the NSX for example on Daytona wich I was way faster out of the busstop than the autodrive.
But i must say that the more laps i do, the more consistent I am, but often I drive like 10 laps full push, and am in the focus or zone what ever you wanna call it, then get penalty or something, restart, and run a PB 🤣🤣
I need those stints to get better and faster, but personally if i run a lap before I'm a little stronger on the last turn for some reason on Glen 🤣, so for me it depends highly on the track, that radical entry was hell too btw 🤣

 

[Evilmuffin]

Decided to jump on the game before my 2 days business trip. Managed an exact same time as my S15 PB with the Cayman 😭

 

[Dan_Tes]

With the running TT at Glen I hate the start, but it's better than the NSX for example on Daytona wich I was way faster out of the busstop than the autodrive.
But i must say that the more laps i do, the more consistent I am, but often I drive like 10 laps full push, and am in the focus or zone what ever you wanna call it, then get penalty or something, restart, and run a PB 🤣🤣
I need those stints to get better and faster, but personally if i run a lap before I'm a little stronger on the last turn for some reason on Glen 🤣, so for me it depends highly on the track, that radical entry was hell too btw 🤣

I’m actually used to it and like it now, why couldn’t they have just released us in 3rd gear rather than the top of 2nd!? Your service to humanity has been noted when it comes to trying different cars on this TT. Sadly I can’t say I’m doing the same, because vanity 🤣

Slight improvement on time today but no perfect lap. I’ve found getting near my limit that the slightest misjudgement in braking point sends me into the hard tyre understeer shadow realm. Annoying. 180 ish miles today and sadly still not in the 1:53.xxx club yet BUT I COULDN’T BE CLOSER!

Track limits are frustrating in the bus stop chicane, I know it's always been like that but the cleanest line through it is immediately nullified by the limits on the second curb. Such a satisfying line but the 1 second penalty... not satisfying.

I might focus on TTTsukuba now as I feel more improvement is possible there and plenty of time left at the Glen! I would love to stay within 1% of the WR or even get within 1 second, that’d be pretty cool

 

[Gomario JSP]

I’m actually used to it and like it now, why couldn’t they have just released us in 3rd gear rather than the top of 2nd!? Your service to humanity has been noted when it comes to trying different cars on this TT. Sadly I can’t say I’m doing the same, because vanity 🤣

Slight improvement on time today but no perfect lap. I’ve found getting near my limit that the slightest misjudgement in braking point sends me into the hard tyre understeer shadow realm. Annoying. 180 ish miles today and sadly still not in the 1:53.xxx club yet BUT I COULDN’T BE CLOSER!



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Track limits are frustrating in the bus stop chicane, I know it's always been like that but the cleanest line through it is immediately nullified by the limits on the second curb. Such a satisfying line but the 1 second penalty... not satisfying.

I might focus on TTTsukuba now as I feel more improvement is possible there and plenty of time left at the Glen! I would love to stay within 1% of the WR or even get within 1 second, that’d be pretty cool

Crazy time already Dan, that first exit in 4th is very interesting!, have tried it yet! will surely going to 😁
Plus I never go to second nowadays in the Silvia, but you are almost 3 tenths up so I can only asume that your option is faster 🤣🤣
I'm 100% continent that you'll be in the 53, no sweat, we just got started, go get it!

 

[zjn]

I'm looking at the lap guide from Mistah. How can he put kmh and mph on the HUD? Is it video postprocessing or an actual GT7 feature?

 

[Lomic]

I'm looking at the lap guide from Mistah. How can he put kmh and mph on the HUD? Is it video postprocessing or an actual GT7 feature?

post-processing I guess, you can tag him here : hey @Mistah_MCA a question for you

 

[Dan_Tes]

Crazy time already Dan, that first exit in 4th is very interesting!, have tried it yet! will surely going to 😁
Plus I never go to second nowadays in the Silvia, but you are almost 3 tenths up so I can only asume that your option is faster 🤣🤣
I'm 100% continent that you'll be in the 53, no sweat, we just got started, go get it!

I am experimenting with it Sir Gomario! I think both are equally quick if you get it right, I think the perfect line and early on the power in 4th might actually be quicker but I'm yet to actually beat the WR ghost on that sector (but I have been within 0.1 sec of him!). I would say 3rd is not a bad choice at all but if you can get the 4th gear exit right you keep making time right up to the 300 board before the bus stop!

Happy lapping everyone, really enjoying this combo and I'm not familiar with the Silvia so it has been fun getting to know him here

 

[Carlos Fandango]

Agreed @Dan_Tes, it’s a nice combo and I’ve really enjoyed learning the track in detail. Won’t get much time this week so I think I’m done with Watkins Glen and Tsukuba (or however you spell it) and will wait for the new TT mid-week. Good luck to those still chasing tenths 👍

 

[Vitesh Patel]

Probably won't remain a gold time, but for an idiot like me with my fists of ham and fingers of butter, happy with this time

 

[Lomic]

8 laps at WC TT, a slight improvement of my best lap, down to 1:57.305, still a long way to gold.

Video of my best lap : (not asking for advices, I can see by myself a lot of things going wrong here, but if you fancy to chime in, feel free to )



31 laps total

 

[newmedia_dev]

8 laps at WC TT, a slight improvement of my best lap, down to 1:57.305, still a long way to gold.

Video of my best lap : (not asking for advices, I can see by myself a lot of things going wrong here, but if you fancy to chime in, feel free to )



31 laps total

A couple of friendly tips:

1. Do five laps just hitting the apexes
2. Coast a little more as you aren't trail braking to the apexes
3. Use the whole track, you leave a lot on the table just not letting the car float wider.

You have really good car control but it's very reserved. If you hit the apexes and do that consistently you'll go faster. Also I personally brake earlier in to the last Esses to get the run on to the final 2 corners.

Also you should be faster and in forth coasting the last corner to the apex and accelerating earlier and running closer to the wall.

Not criticisms just some advice based on the video.

 

[IngRobNy]

8 laps at WC TT, a slight improvement of my best lap, down to 1:57.305, still a long way to gold.

Video of my best lap : (not asking for advices, I can see by myself a lot of things going wrong here, but if you fancy to chime in, feel free to )



31 laps total

The second last corner, try to take it as fast as possible and use the whole track, so your wheels are almost off the curb on the right side of the corner exit.

 

[Lomic]

The second last corner, try to take it as fast as possible and use the whole track, so your wheels are almost off the curb on the right side of the corner exit.

As for @newmedia_dev : I don't succeed in doing what I wish I'd do, otherwise I would not miss apexes, accelerate too late, too early and so on. And I've watched @Mistah_MCA's lap guide so I have an idea of the track limits too.

 

[newmedia_dev]

As for @newmedia_dev : I don't succeed in doing what I wish I'd do, otherwise I would not miss apexes, accelerate too late, too early and so on. And I've watched @Mistah_MCA's lap guide so I have an idea of the track limits too.

Ooook.

We'll go slower to go faster.

The reason you aren't doing what you wish you'd do is because you are forcing it. Braking really late gives you no grip and no options.

Go slower, hit the apexes and work corner by corner. I'm not sure because I use the MPH units but your bus stop speed is really aggressive, brake gently, coast, pick the grip up and go!

The game rewards really full throttle exits over late braking or limit braking.

Was just offering some advice to the video but if you've got mista to follow. Go hard and get that gold good sir

 

[Jeje6410]

8 laps at WC TT, a slight improvement of my best lap, down to 1:57.305, still a long way to gold.

Video of my best lap : (not asking for advices, I can see by myself a lot of things going wrong here, but if you fancy to chime in, feel free to )



31 laps total

Try to drive without TC , you will gain extra seconds

 

[peniu]

As for @newmedia_dev : I don't succeed in doing what I wish I'd do, otherwise I would not miss apexes, accelerate too late, too early and so on. And I've watched @Mistah_MCA's lap guide so I have an idea of the track limits too.

Have you tried without the assists? Group 4 cars are pretty forgiving, you could maybe leave TC at 1 to feel safer. I remember playing split screen as player 2 and could not get a car to turn at all with all the assists on.

 

[IngRobNy]

As for @newmedia_dev : I don't succeed in doing what I wish I'd do, otherwise I would not miss apexes, accelerate too late, too early and so on. And I've watched @Mistah_MCA's lap guide so I have an idea of the track limits too.

Have you tried the Jaguar? I'm much faster in that than the Silvia and I'm using controller as well, with TC on 3, you are good at controlling the throttle, so maybe you could try with TC on 2 or 1? I'm not, either full throttle or no throttle, so I need TC at 3.

 

[zjn]

Another .2s down, and yet 7ms out of gold at the Glenn. I know gold is there, I just have to grab it

 

[newmedia_dev]

Doing the circuit experience helps and I've done WG on all the dailies.

This doesn't seem like a hard one to do. There are 3 acceleration zones and if you can hit them then it's all good?

Just go fast round them and the last turn and you will be gold.

Sure the bus top is technical and inconsistent but as long as just carry speed you are ok.

 

[Darrenersmit]

Darn it...1:58.7. Puts me at 5.17%. Definitely got half a second in me to get a silver.

 

[jmopborba]

As expected, I am having a lot of fun with this one.
Using the Silvia and the car seems lovely to drive, great stability and does not seem to understeer that much, despite that I prefer car that understeer instead of oversteering.

Currently at 1:55:229 with the DS5, and quite happy with the result despite that I feel that 1:54 is definitely possible if I manage to perfect the first sector.

Gold is 100% sure with this time.
Will try to improve to 1:54.

 

[samppa_944]

Wow that Tsukuba time trial was a LOT harder than what I thought, and it was a mystery to me how on earth the top aliens got enough rotation to go that quick. Initially I did not get enough rotation no matter what wheel settings I changed on my Logitech G29. So decided to ditch the wheel after only doing a 1.10.1xx lap.

For some reason I felt like I had to use a controller, and since I struggled a lot with getting enough rotation, I decided to start practicing scandi flicks wherever possible. I have played with a controller in the past like most who started to play car games as young in the early to mid 2000's, I used controller to beat the drift missions in GT7 and also I use controller to play games like The Crew 2 or Grid games.

Anyways the scandi flicks were not working, except for T1. So now the key was to just learn how to do it properly and still carry the speed throughout the corner. T2 was also a struggle, but eventually I figured it out. Anyway after spending like 40 min on the controller managed a low 1.09.7, and it was just about gold, but I thought it is not safe. So did some more practice, another hour went by, until I finally got the lap together. Got the perfect scandi flick combo into T1, decent T2 and T3-T4, good speed through the hairpin before the back straight. And in addition improved my last corner too, which I definitely got slightly wrong on my previous fastest lap.

In the end the timer showed the numbers 1:09.482. Really happy with that effort, and just goes to show that there is more ways than one to get it done, in low grip conditions like this. 😎🏁 Below a video of the lap.

 

[Lomic]

The reason you aren't doing what you wish you'd do is because you are forcing it. Braking really late gives you no grip and no options.

I see what you mean, but if I try to go slower, it works, I am slower 😅 at the moment I try to not miss apexes by braking too late, to not find myself taking the long way around the turn and not braking too much/soon either to find myself crawling at the interior when I should be full throttle near the exterior. It is a difficult balance to find between to much and to little of everything.

About the assists, for those who offer to remove them, I think they are less a problem than the randomness of where I brake, release the brake and accelerate, and that it could be worse without. A consistent lap where I am a the right spot in every turn would go a long way before even thinking to remove the assists, so that's what I am aiming first.

Still some days to try before the end of this TT.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I see what you mean, but if I try to go slower, it works, I am slower 😅 at the moment I try to not miss apexes by braking too late, to not find myself taking the long way around the turn and not braking too much/soon either to find myself crawling at the interior when I should be full throttle near the exterior. It is a difficult balance to find between to much and to little of everything.

About the assists, for those who offer to remove them, I think they are less a problem than the randomness of where I brake, release the brake and accelerate, and that it could be worse without. A consistent lap where I am a the right spot in every turn would go a long way before even thinking to remove the assists, so that's what I am aiming first.

Still some days to try before the end of this TT.

You are looking it at from the wrong direction. If you maximise exit speed you can take different lines.

Your biggest thing in the video is for the config of the assists and car you don't coast enough to bleed the speed off or turn in. You are asking the car to brake "be assisted" and then lean on it to come out but it will understeer because that's what the assists are designed to do.

Assists aren't the issue, it's that you aren't smooth because you are forcing laps, and when I do that with out assists I spin. When you do it, you go slow.

I promise if you coast the car bend to bend and learn to turn in and coast you will be a second quicker.

Edit: typo

 

[Mistah_MCA]

post-processing I guess, you can tag him here : hey @Mistah_MCA a question for you

Editing magic. @zjn

 

[tmtk]

Getting there...

There's 0.3 left at least, but not so easy to pick up.
Both uphill corners right and left are tricky with the Corvette, tends to loose grip and slide.
As many of you already said, first and last corner make a lot of difference here.

Fun track, fun car - I'll stick with this combo.

 

[Evilmuffin]

Getting there...
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There's 0.3 left at least, but not so easy to pick up.
Both uphill corners right and left are tricky with the Corvette, tends to loose grip and slide.
As many of you already said, first and last corner make a lot of difference here.

Fun track, fun car - I'll stick with this combo.

If you want to use an American car, can give the Viper a go. I found it easier to drive compare to the Corvette.

 

[seadog777]

Silver so close I can taste it!! 1:58.661 which today is 5.07% off the leader. Switched to the Silvia and gained some time.

However, this still puts me way down in the bottom half of the table, so plenty to do. Must....... keep...... trying!

 

[Lomic]

Your biggest thing in the video is for the config of the assists and car you don't coast enough to bleed the speed off or turn in. You are asking the car to brake "be assisted" and then lean on it to come out but it will understeer because that's what the assists are designed to do.

Assists aren't the issue, it's that you aren't smooth because you are forcing laps, and when I do that with out assists I spin. When you do it, you go slow.

So you say I need to brake more/earlier before turns ? And remove assists ? (all ?)

I promise if you coast the car bend to bend and learn to turn in and coast you will be a second quicker.

Not sure I understand you there. Coasting is letting the car roll, without inputs on brake or acceleration, right ? I don't get "bend to bend" "bend" = "turn" ? How can I coast from one turn to the next ?

The way I view driving (might all be wrong) : be at the exterior on the entry of the turn, brake in straight line enough to hit the apex, accelerate as soon as possible to exit as close from the exterior, and position as best possible for next turn. If I overshoot apex and/or struggle to stay inside = not enough/too late braking on entry. If I can follow the interior beyond the apex = too much/early braking on entry. If I am not close to exterior exiting the turn = accelerate too late after apex.

 

[Slowdan]

Been enjoying this one! Lost track of what my best time was before last night's session, so was pleasantly surprised to see this when I left the track...

There's no way that lasts until the end, but it's the first time I've seen gold, so I'm enjoying the moment!

Not sure I understand you there. Coasting is letting the car roll, without inputs on brake or acceleratior, right ? I don't get "bend to bend" "bend" = "turn" ? How can I coast from one turn to the next ?

I would have said 'coast from turn in to apex.' Slow in, fast out really works. It seems backwards sometimes, but if you concentrate on going a little slower on the way in, you will be a lot faster on the way out.