Time Trial Discussion

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Collected my Cr.2M from the Viper-monster and then realized that might have been easier than the new TT!! Bathurst, poor light, damp track, SH tires and over 600hp... what could go wrong?!?! Quick 10 laps before work, I think maybe two were clean and avoided barrier penalties, with a "best" of 2:18 and just outside silver. This one isn't going to be straightforward!
Me reading Carlos's review about the new TT:
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Mount Panorama is a bogey circuit for me, even in dry/light conditions.

I'm sure that with the right car I could enjoy it, but I have a funny feeling that this TT will likely frustrate me. I also love the MC20, so I don't want to spoil it by doing a TT that I will likely suck at.

11,600+ people have tried the new TT, only 424 have gold ,not hard at all, 1 out of every 27 makes gold....šŸ¤®
Hats off to those who are golding it. I can almost guarantee that I'll not even silver this one - in fact I can guarantee it, because I won't be doing it :lol:
 
So around 2:15.3 after a quick run on the new TT, definitely possible to get it down to a 2:14 by tidying up the exit of the final hairpin ( Forest Elbow?) watching the delta increase along the following straight is painful.

Slightly confused be posts saying the track is damp, I've not noticed it and just assumed it was the morning lighting. Am I going mad?
 
Here are some statistics for TT37 at Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A in the Dodge Viper GTS '13.

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Highlights:
  • Fewer than usual people got gold or silver rewards, but also fewer got no reward, so most people ended up in bronze.
  • Only 0.03% of drivers were within 1% of #1, against an average of 0.13%. A clear illustration of how difficult this car was and how unbelievably good the top handful of drivers are.
  • The gap between my best time and optimal time was ludicrously big given how short the lap is. Quite often I'd do what felt like a great first sector only to see 21.050 pop up, then a lap later I'd do what felt like exactly the same things and looked like the same things, and 20.700 would pop up. Same for the other two sectors. Kudos to those who strung good sectors together and got into the low 1:12s and better.
  • Thank you to @bianconiglio who suggested I add into the leader board columns to show how many of each reward type drivers have to date.
There are a lot of moving parts these days and I can't quality assure everything, so if you see something that looks off, feel free to let me know. Thanks.


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Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs to date dropped from 121 to 119.

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Interim Results for TT38 at High Speed Ring in the Mazda LM55 VGT

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This was a request to help people see how many places they're likely to gain by gaining a certain amount of time.
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But wait, there's more! Interim results for TT39 at Red Bull Ring in the Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 '18 - Leaderboard only

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So around 2:15.3 after a quick run on the new TT, definitely possible to get it down to a 2:14 by tidying up the exit of the final hairpin ( Forest Elbow?) watching the delta increase along the following straight is painful.

Slightly confused be posts saying the track is damp, I've not noticed it and just assumed it was the morning lighting. Am I going mad?
The track is not damp, but it looks like a small glaze from like a morning atmosphereā€¦ I got a 2:16.4 off of 10 laps.. Have to stay focused during the mountain pass section I keep loosing the rear. It was fun TT though especially in VR is anyone else using VR for these TTā€™s.
 
This new TT is properly hard. I did another 5 laps or so and only managed a 2:17.5. Having a lot of hard time taking that right kink in the final sector....spinning out many times there. I'm also lossing a lot of time in the downhill section, especially the hairpin. Easily 2 seconds just in sector 3 alone.
 
This new TT is properly hard. I did another 5 laps or so and only managed a 2:17.5. Having a lot of hard time taking that right kink in the final sector....spinning out many times there. I'm also lossing a lot of time in the downhill section, especially the hairpin. Easily 2 seconds just in sector 3 alone.
I feel you on the kink part!!! That one in the Gr.3 was nothing, didn't even have to think about it other than a slight lift. I couldn't seem to figure out where to brake after that kink because I would end up way short or overshoot it (but more so because my consistency coming into the turn is all over the place lol). But now I have something to work towards for the next two weeks!! It just feels sooo much more gratifying when you keep going over and over and finally make gold time towards the end.
 
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This new TT is properly hard. I did another 5 laps or so and only managed a 2:17.5. Having a lot of hard time taking that right kink in the final sector....spinning out many times there. I'm also lossing a lot of time in the downhill section, especially the hairpin. Easily 2 seconds just in sector 3 alone.
You actually need to brake before that right hand kink. I've over shot the following left a few times because the car just doesn't stop. My braking distances are even longer than the fast people, despite braking from a slower speed. No idea why that is.

The downhill hairpin I think is braking in second, then shift to third for exit.
 
I'm sure PD made a mistake here, and put the body of the MC20 on the time trial added a bunch of turbo's to it and forgot to change to car so now we have a buffed Viper šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ it handles like a pig šŸ¤£šŸ¤£
I did 5 laps ...... 4.4%..... this one is going to be a handfull šŸ¤£
But thr more difficult the more fun right! šŸ˜šŸ˜
 
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I knew I was in for a difficult time with the Bathurst TT after reading everyone's experience so far. This one is going to take some work. I found it equal parts fun and frustrating. I only had time for about 5 laps today, so I wasn't expecting to get Gold ... So, expectations well met! :lol:

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I suppose 2 seconds outside Gold isn't too bad. This track is probably one of my weakest, but I know from the CE that when you nail a sector it really cuts that time down. I will have to watch some lap guides later for some tips.
 
I dont know why some of you expecting the rati to brake like a race car, its a road car at the end of the day of course it will be like this šŸ¤£

its so lovely tho and driving it hard gives a satisfying adrenaline rush + high bpm in the last corners on a good lap lol. The ending is always scary to not waste all the hard work done during the lap. I missed so many 2:10s cuz of the brake zone at the final long straight šŸ’”
 
I dont know why some of you expecting the rati to brake like a race car, its a road car at the end of the day of course it will be like this šŸ¤£

its so lovely tho and driving it hard gives a satisfying adrenaline rush + high bpm in the last corners on a good lap lol. The ending is always scary to not waste all the hard work done during the lap. I missed so many 2:10s cuz of the brake zone at the final long straight šŸ’”
Sir, please slow down. :scared:
nice time!
 
Here are some statistics for TT37 at Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A in the Dodge Viper GTS '13.

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Highlights:
  • Fewer than usual people got gold or silver rewards, but also fewer got no reward, so most people ended up in bronze.
  • Only 0.03% of drivers were within 1% of #1, against an average of 0.13%. A clear illustration of how difficult this car was and how unbelievably good the top handful of drivers are.
  • The gap between my best time and optimal time was ludicrously big given how short the lap is. Quite often I'd do what felt like a great first sector only to see 21.050 pop up, then a lap later I'd do what felt like exactly the same things and looked like the same things, and 20.700 would pop up. Same for the other two sectors. Kudos to those who strung good sectors together and got into the low 1:12s and better.
  • Thank you to @bianconiglio who suggested I add into the leader board columns to show how many of each reward type drivers have to date.
There are a lot of moving parts these days and I can't quality assure everything, so if you see something that looks off, feel free to let me know. Thanks.



Drivers with gold in all TTs
The number of drivers with gold in all TTs to date dropped from 121 to 119.



Interim Results for TT38 at High Speed Ring in the Mazda LM55 VGT

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This was a request to help people see how many places they're likely to gain by gaining a certain amount of time.
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But wait, there's more! Interim results for TT39 at Red Bull Ring in the Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 '18 - Leaderboard only

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Loving your work as always sir tips hat. Youā€™re my heroooooooo <insert ferris bueller gif here> šŸ˜˜

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P88 and apparently second fastest on GTP šŸ¤Æ I wonā€™t miss the Viper or BMB but I have to say I probably had some of the most spectacular drifts in my GT7 career on this time trial šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ when it came off it was fun.. but not fast šŸ˜

I tried MP with the Maserati and after about five minutes hadnā€™t even reached the start line. Wow this one looks tough, but Iā€™m like a @Doodle from Wish and seem to do well with slidey road cars.. but what is PDā€™s obsession with putting crap tyres on extremely expensive track focused cars? WHY PD WHYYYYY. This TT looks like it would be epic in VR, any thoughts @djolliea or @GlockPants ? Or were you too busy going fast to notice the beauty before you šŸ˜šŸ˜

I also gave RBR and the GTR a go today and itā€™s quite fun. I mean I have regular therapy sessions regarding the first corner. Iā€™m glad itā€™s stays for the summer ā˜ŗļø
 
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