Time Trial Discussion

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Gomario JSP
Are we driving the same car? 🤣
I did spend 300km today trying to like it, but I still don't 🤣.
MP is such a great track, I just wish I had a little more grip and LESS understeer 🤣
I like the challenge tho!, and found some some peace driving it, still of gold with 15.3 but not worried yet 😊
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Well, if you pass the breaking point, any car will understeer... :sly:
 
dimassa19
Well, if you pass the breaking point, any car will understeer... :sly:
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Yeah, can't argue with that ofcourse 😁🤣🤣
But breakingpoint are easly missed if you dont have brakes and tires that don't grip.. 🤣..you have to anker out 3 miles in front and still use the downshifts to loose the extra speed,
Maby ill change my opinion after a few 100 miles or so, its still early in TT and I'll prob have to drive it another way and maby ill appreciate it then (has happened before) 😁

But for now... I think balance is way of for this combo, but frustrated but fun! 😁

Time will tell 🤣
 
Evilmuffin
I figured it will get down to the 14s, so I will basially need a full second to secure gold for sure. The good news is I know where to get that second. The bad news is I have yet to able to figure out how :crazy:
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<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing tyres, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
 
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@Dan_Tes Relax, PD will keep improving the physics. The old NSX was undriveable and I was throwing a tantrum because of the Nordschleife time trial.

But with the previous major physics update, it became a lot more driveable and a lot more what it's supposed to be like.

The problem with GT7 is it's constantly evolving, so you can't judge a car too fast, you gotta stick around for the ride.

Just my 2 cents. ;)
 
Dan_Tes
<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing cars, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
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I drove it twice around BH and hated it so much. I agree totally with you. I'm glad one of the resident aliens thinks that... 👍👍
 
Dan_Tes
<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing tyres, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
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I think you summed it up pretty well. 👏👏👏
 
Dan_Tes
<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing tyres, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
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All I'd add to this is that the TTs (like other Sports events) are something of a mixed bag, and I've already encountered a few that just didn't work for me, but we need to take the rough with the smooth.

I have been playing around with the MC20 with RS tyres on, and haven't even tried any tunes for it yet, but I'm enjoying it a lot. I'd say in this case, you need to find a way of enjoying the car rather than relying on PD to give you that, as you might have a long wait for that :lol:

Personal aside: Someone (I think a restaurant owner) in my neighbourhood has a black MC20, and I also saw the brand new MC20 GT2 launch at Spa a few weeks ago, and I feel that GT7 definitely does the car justice - but yeh, taking it around Bathurst on SH tyres doesn't float my boat either!
 
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Dan_Tes
<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing cars, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
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Agree 100%...i just gave it another go and i don't see how anyone can consider it fun.
Yesterday out of 11,600+ people,the gold rate was 1 out of 27...i just checked again, only 788 are in the gold out of 33,000,...1 out of 41...is there some Olympics i'm not seeing ,like seriously....and it's not the track that's annoying,it's a challenge for sure ,it's the car and tires and the ridiculous lack of traction....:irked:
 
330_D
I drove it twice around BH and hated it so much. I agree totally with you. I'm glad one of the resident aliens thinks that... 👍👍
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You just know @Dan_Tes is still going to end up in the top 5 of the GTP leaderboards, the anger will just make him faster :lol:

FWIW, I'm not hugely impressed with the MC20s physics but I've never really liked any of the hypercars in 7, best described as boats round anything tighter than T2 at the RBR
 
Gomario JSP
Yeah, can't argue with that ofcourse 😁🤣🤣
But breakingpoint are easly missed if you dont have brakes and tires that don't grip.. 🤣..you have to anker out 3 miles in front and still use the downshifts to loose the extra speed,
Maby ill change my opinion after a few 100 miles or so, its still early in TT and I'll prob have to drive it another way and maby ill appreciate it then (has happened before) 😁

But for now... I think balance is way of for this combo, but frustrated but fun! 😁

Time will tell 🤣
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Funny you used that phrasing - a good friend often says it this way when referring to bad brakes :D
 
Jeje6410
I think you summed it up pretty well. 👏👏👏
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Man, if that was a summary by @Dan_Tes I'd love to read the Long Read version!

Joking aside, I agree with you @Dan_Tes. People will say nobody drives road cars 10/10 so we don't know what it is supposed to feel/perform like. But if I'd spent £200k on one and it behaved like the one in GT7 (example barely able to make the slight turn at Quarry - where we are doing under 100mph - without spinning), I'd be back at the dealership asking for my money back. And I'd keep the floormats and Maserati umbrella obviously.

This will be a very tough one. I'm treating it as another learning opportunity and try to block out the emotional response to the peculiar handling.
 
After 1 hour & 15 minutes of play, improved my time from 1:19:253 to 1:17:717. Ironic thing is I had none of my best sectors on my best lap. My hypothetical best lap could've been a 1:16:9xx so there's room for improvement.

Even though I've not made such a jump to even enter Silver range, it's fun to drive around & learn more about the car's handling.
 
@Dan_Tes Good, rant: 9.5/10!

I agree. This one is not fun for me at all. Sure, some combos will cater to some people more than others and I get that... but this one is a chore. Honestly, I wish I knew how much I'd not enjoy this before I started and would've likely just skipped it all together, but now that I've put in a lap time I feel almost obligated to try for gold (which I am currently in by .044" so I'd bet I'll be doing this again... maybe) to keep the gold/silver ratio going in the right direction.

The last TT I recall enjoying as much as a stubbed toe was the tuned Mustang around Laguna. I golded it by .032" but couldn't be bothered in that one to do any more laps to open the gap; thankfully my -.032" held.

This one may be the same. Time will tell.
 
Man, is this brutal!
You already know your faith when you jump in and the car is left to you in 2nd gear at rev limiter.
I would also add this to the list of complaints. It bothers me and sets me up poorly for the collection of walls that I already know I will complete on subsequent laps.
The part between uphill and downhill I ride without breathing. If a pin falls I already know it all goes to hell.
I have a safe bronze, and the same confidence that I won't get silver unless someone straightens
the track.

@Dan_Tes i don't know you other than for your posts here. You always are kind, funny and positive. Your rant makes me think you really felt left apart. I'm sorry for it and I hope you will get back enjoiment in future tts
 
Dan_Tes
<RANT ALERT>

Just what are PD thinking, what is this ABOMINATION! Yes, I'm in a bad mood, yes people are pushing my buttons in the real world, yes nobody cares... But I'm gonna rant anyway. I love GT7, it's the only racing game I play at the moment. I have ACC, I play it from time to time, I love it's realism but more than that I LOVE road cars! GT7 gives us an incredible opportunity to try out a number of different road cars with physics that are reasonably close to real life so we at least get a taste of what it would be like to drive these incredible machines. When I saw Mount Panorama announced as the location for the next time trial my eyes lit up, I'm not sure I've done one here before but what a great track and the new Maserati supercar sounded like a great car to take round it.

I didn't know anything about the MC20 before buying it in the GT7 car dealership, I knew it would be a handful given the ridiculous decision to put it on 'sports hard' tyres which seem akin to a part worn budget brand I could pick up from my local back street garage for £10 a pop. So I threw on some Racing Medium tyres which thanks to the physics update seem to tame almost anything. I took it out for a spin round Dragon Trail... Yes, it's ok but god the brakes are incredibly poor even on racing tyres, dynamically it is all over the shop, a hyper-mobile nose that tucks in and evokes a spin with even the slightest of rotation. Piss poor. Then I threw on the sports hard tyres and took it for a drive round MP. What an absolute MESS. I know it's driveable and maybe some people will find it fun but my logical brain just isn't having any of it, this is pure arcade nonsense and so far removed from the reality. This was BEFORE I even looked into what the MC20 is like in real life. For it to be less dynamically composed than a 15 year old american muscle car with a chassis less developed than a Ford Model T is saying something. Then we add to that the most unforgiving track in GT7 and say off you go, enjoy! To add insult to injury, I hit a wall half way through the lap. Got the obligatory 3 second penalty and yet it did not register when I reached the penalty zone, so rendered almost 4 minutes of driving completely useless. Why.

And then to top it all off, I went and read some reviews on what the MC20 is really like. I was expecting to hear that it was a beautiful car that appeals to the soul not the head, best left in the car park of some five star hotel in Monaco and paraded around at 5mph, dynamically flawed but it doesn't matter. But no, it won Evo car of the year 2022. Evo magazine's tagline is literally 'the thrill of driving', it's all they care about. And they reckon this is the best thing since sliced bread, beating Ferrari's, Porsche's and Mclaren's, which just rubs more salt in the wound.

I know I know, I shouldn't think too deeply and just drive what's in front of me. But thinking deeply about things gives me the joy I get out of pursuits like this. When it's right it is so right, only last night I was driving a Porsche Carerra GT round the Nordschleife at maximum attack and thinking how wonderful it was. That's a car with a ferocious reputation and yet it was happy at 10/10ths on the most formidable track in the world. For all the painstaking hours PD spend on the smallest detail I'm just so disappointed they've missed the mark so spectacularly again, we now have two time trials that are anything but fun or realistic running side by side. It's not some deep dynamic flaw in the game, it's just incredibly poor decision making that turns one of the best parts of the game into a farce.

I'll keep going because I love the challenge but for me this is just a step beyond, for a company that calls itself 'the real driving simulator' and has just released a film exhibiting how it's realism can be translated into real world driving this is a piss poor effort.

Do better, PD.

Lots of Love, one of your biggest fans


Dan
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I know several people who have driven the MC20 in real life. It definitely is not like it is in the game.

I'm not sure what tyre a Sport Hard is meant to be in real life? I had a assumed something like a Michelin Pilot Sport 4, with the Cup equivalent being Sport Soft perhaps? Or is a Pilot Sport actually a Comfort tyre, and the Cup a Sport?

Those saying that road cars don't have good brakes on road tyres must have very limited experience.
 
kjeldsen
I don't doubt that they don't think it's like the car in the game, but, when we drive these cars in the game the pedal is to the floor ALL THE TIME, we brake at the absolute limit ALL THE TIME, everything is to the max all the time. It's like the when they test cars to the max in Top Gear, those cars also comes alive and tries to kill it's drives. Watch onboards on N24, the same, fast cars are moving all over the place.
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The people I'm talking about do test cars.
 

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