Time Trial Discussion

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My previous best was only a hundredth or so of breathing room....hopefully the :15's will keep me safe for the next 2 days.



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4 days left at Alsace, and I had only run once there. I used the Mazda again and improved on my time. It's amazing how many spots you can pick up in the overall by picking up a modest amount with a track so short.
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Out of curiosity, I tried out the Alfa immediately after. The car is SO much more enjoyable than the Mazda. The car rotates like mad in 2nd gear, and it's fun to powerslide on the tight turn at the top of the hill. It's not too far off, time wise, from the Mazda. Considering I missed the apex of the final turn with the Mazda, I would say overall it's only about a tenth slower. Comparing the splits, the Alfa struggles in sector 1. But it's about even through the 2nd sector, and actually faster in the final sector. At least for me during my session tonight. For those struggling with the Mazda, I highly recommend trying the Alfa.
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PlanetJanet
Had a go at Interlagos myself last night, felt very nice. I thought I was absolutely nailing it but couldn't go faster than 36.5, turns out that vast quantities of beer is poor prep. :D
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I had another go when not sozzled, slightly disappointing really, I could only find an extra 0.7 to get to 1.35.9. Key takeaway: I think I'd do well in a league where the rules required competitors to overindulge beforehand. Gold for now at least.

The frustrating thing is I watch the fastest laps and guides, I'm sure I'm doing exactly what they are, hard to know where all the time is lost. I do struggle a bit with that middle sequence though.
 
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The Michelin trial is frying my brain now. I just can't get the car to turn, almost as if there's some sort of limited on the input. I've a bit of time margin but not much, so I think I need to find a few tenths.

There's no point watching replays for any reference other than track limits as it's not possible to replicate the dynamics of the car.
 
PlanetJanet
I had another go when not sozzled, slightly disappointing really, I could only find an extra 0.7 to get to 1.35.9. Key takeaway: I think I'd do well in a league where the rules required competitors to overindulge beforehand. Gold for now at least.

The frustrating thing is I watch the fastest laps and guides, I'm sure I'm doing exactly what they are, hard to know where all the time is lost. I do struggle a bit with that middle sequence though.
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Follow a ghost and have it reset every sector. Set it 0.4 or 0.5 second ahead so it doesn't distract you much. You will most likely see that the ghost has a higher apex speed from releasing the brakes earlier, and a much higher exit speed because it applies the throttle earlier too.

The middle sector is hard...the 2 downhill left handers, try to coast a bit.. it helps rotating the car.
 
Evilmuffin
Follow a ghost and have it reset every sector. Set it 0.4 or 0.5 second ahead so it doesn't distract you much. You will most likely see that the ghost has a higher apex speed from releasing the brakes earlier, and a much higher exit speed because it applies the throttle earlier too.

The middle sector is hard...the 2 downhill left handers, try to coast a bit.. it helps rotating the car.
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I often find the ghost very distracting but will give it a go, thanks. Small differences in entry/exit speed clearly have a big impact on lap time. I worry excessively about trail braking lol. I don't know how to do it and have convinced myself that it's the main reason I'm not faster. Got to cling onto something. :P
 
PlanetJanet
I often find the ghost very distracting but will give it a go, thanks. Small differences in entry/exit speed clearly have a big impact on lap time. I worry excessively about trail braking lol. I don't know how to do it and have convinced myself that it's the main reason I'm not faster. Got to cling onto something. :P
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Sometimes it's a bit distractive indeed but like the Muffin says, 0.4 / 0.5 is a good gap to see where the top guys rocket away, and take it sector by sector.
Trailbraking is something you have to learn yourself, here trailbraking and releasing brake to rotate is key to have a good flow with this car, maby upload your lap here then we can give some advice 😁
 
PlanetJanet
I often find the ghost very distracting but will give it a go, thanks. Small differences in entry/exit speed clearly have a big impact on lap time. I worry excessively about trail braking lol. I don't know how to do it and have convinced myself that it's the main reason I'm not faster. Got to cling onto something. :P
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Here is a video that explains trail braking pretty well.

 
Nice video. Although to be honest, I do understand the principle, just can't seem to put it into practice. Easier said than done! I assume t1 at Interlagos is prime trail territory? Might try to practice it there to begin with until it starts to feel more natural.
 
PlanetJanet
Nice video. Although to be honest, I do understand the principle, just can't seem to put it into practice. Easier said than done! I assume t1 at Interlagos is prime trail territory? Might try to practice it there to begin with until it starts to feel more natural.
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Interlagos is a great place to practice trail braking. Just about every single corners need trail braking to optimize your time. If you want to practice.... don't go 100%. Practice the motion of letting go the brake slowly while increasing the steering input. It will feel very very weird in the beginning.

You can look at my video from before and pay attention to the braking input instead of where I started braking.

Trail braking is the difference between gold amd silver majority of the time for the TTs. Remember....slow is smooth...smooth is fast.
 
Evilmuffin
Interlagos is a great place to practice trail braking. Just about every single corners need trail braking to optimize your time. If you want to practice.... don't go 100%. Practice the motion of letting go the brake slowly while increasing the steering input. It will feel very very weird in the beginning.

You can look at my video from before and pay attention to the braking input instead of where I started braking.

Trail braking is the difference between gold amd silver majority of the time for the TTs. Remember....slow is smooth...smooth is fast.
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I will do that, thanks for the encouragement. :)

I have reached the point where I can usually get gold on the TTs even without trail braking, as long as I put some time in. Currently have gold times at Interlagos, RA and Alsace. But I'm still 1-2 seconds slower than the really fast people and I'd like to bring that down where I can.
 
I was doing my morning run in GT7, just randomly going through the more obscure cars I haven't bought yet. Knew I had to leave home before noon. Last thing I decide to do before going is checking the TT times and am suddenly gripped by fear of losing my gold only TT record (as in, not golded all, but golded all I participated). I had done only one session with the 918 when the Michelin challenge started and got a 1:16.2. It seemed to be holding fine for the first few days, so had kind of checked it off as done. So now I'm panicking that I was only 6/100ths from dropping to silver. I looked at the watch and realized I have 20 minutes to improve my time. With a combo I had only driven for a dozen laps almost two weeks ago.

Ten minutes into it, I had only done a 1:17.1 and was really struggling to get the last corner (for a hot lap entry) even relatively close to fine. The first section, I luckily had a good flow and was rather consistant. Five minutes left, I started getting close with two consequtive 1:16.2s, but just slightly off my best. One more binned lap after that. And then, a really really nice first section with 3/10ths up on my best. The mid section kinda meh, but nothing super bad. Approaching the S at the end of the back straight I go a bit too deep and can't hit the apex of the left turn, so have to cut the right hander super aggressively. Kinda swearing in my mind, I decide this is do or die, so I keep my foot down over the hill, the car pushes dangerously close to the left side of the track, and just as it is about to drift off, I tap the brakes and totally throw the car to the inside for the final corner, fully aware that there is NO chance of making it through the turn. But that was not the plan. I'm literally dashing to the finish line. I cut the line right at the edge of the track and the time is 1:15.940. The car is deep into the grass, and the next lap obviously void, and being in VR, I don't know if it counted or not. A deep breath, exit, and there it is: valid lap and surely a solid gold.

The time trial ain't finished yet though. I was eventually a good ten minutes late getting on the real, actual road and over 200 kms to do. Luckily good weather and quiet traffic, so just about on time to pick up the missus from her flight home. Phew.
 
After perusing this thread this morning I realised I was only 5 hundredths within gold at the Nordschleife, and with Yuhki and Fraga battling for the fastest time and less than a hundredth apart, figured that was looking unlikely to hold...

Then I remembered the Honda challenge time. I signed in and could see it there, mocking me, so I had a quick chat with my wife about our day's plans.

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After a bucket load of failed attempts and 200+ miles, I finally snuck a time in. Happy days!
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Expecting a call from Honda any day now!
 
Hey all - back in the US and time to fire up the PS4. I did have a quick go first day back, but jet lag had fried my brain a little and doing either the 918 or the Alsace trial seemed to make me a little dizzy.

Went back to the 918 last night for a quick 20 minute session before bed…. 2hrs later and well after midnight I managed to sneak into gold with a high 16.1. Not much margin but hopefully all the quick guys have moved onto other things :scared: 🤞

Will try Alsace later - cheers
 
Barareklam
Alsace TT is ending on Thursday so I thought to try to improve my 47.5** a bit and oh boy I was wrong thinking it would be easy task. It took me hundred of laps to drop it to 47.4**
Saved ghost in case someone wants to see it in game.

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Watched the Alsace lap and was really stunned how strong engine breaking is .
Amazing time that’s for sure on the other hand it feels weird to see …this is possible…seriously you would destroy any engine in no time 🤣
Thx 4 sharing.
 
I keep changing which TT I attempt each day. There's almost too much variety until the Honda and Michelin Challenges end. :lol: Today I was back to Road Atlanta and picked up almost a tenth and a half. I didn't have the smoothest of esses, but I got a good run out of turn 5 to help carry me down the following straight. I had several 30.0 first sectors throughout my session, and this one was about a tenth off. I have no idea how some of you guys are doing 29.7's. Insane. I will give the TT one more go tomorrow before it ends. IF I can hook up a solid lap through all 3 sectors, I believe a 1:15.5 is possible.

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Did the Manu race earlier today and just had to finish up the evening with some TT’s.

The ring is going to stay silver and Atlanta will as well. I have great laps and upon trying to cross the finish line without blowing it I bleed too much time.
I’ll keep practicing and hopefully more of these events will click. VR was making me woozy every time I crossed the line and spun lots of circles 😂

Spent some time on Interlagos and golded with more there if I hunker down.
I like the course and remember it being where I got my first ever win while at DR C. It’s early so being sub 2k is a fun first too but I realize it’s very early 😁

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Yes, long live the C!! I finally did it after at least 250 tries. Well as long as I got a bronze here, I don't think I'm gonna rush myself for getting gold/silver. The point of the game is to do what you can according to the rules and regulations on the track and what is provided for you. I will post my replays later, but this was quite hard using the AT here, I felt like every corner took up at least a second of my time.
 
I didn't have a chance to hit The 'Ring again today. Manu race required two attempts to get an acceptable result, which ate into my time.

I checked my time before leaving for work tonight, I was still in Gold by about 1 second. So I think I'm ok.

RA on the other hand, I only have about 0.1 second of cushion. Probably enough. But I think there's still time this morning once I'm home if I drop out of Gold.

If my Gold times hold, I'll try to push into Gold at Interlagos, I'm sure I've fallen further away after my first stint on Day 1.
 

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