Time Trial Discussion

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Let us not forget half_sourly treats the Olympic TT as its own, considering the twice as hard gold time (+1.5%)

The right decision imo, as we're only interested in the normal +3% gold cutoff.

(I didn't gold the Olympic) :grumpy:
 
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So, i'm calling today Silver Monday, cause i got 3 of them,😅,....missed out on Michelin by .063 and yesterday being football Sunday,just never got back ,oh well,....got 3 cars too,always nice to get more dust collectors😅
Went out and improved with the Mercedes, fun drive,liking it,.opt is 35.5
Can't wait for the update,with all these TT's i'm almost at the 100 million mark,i see a big spending day coming!:cheers:
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I'm 17. Do you think I should have followed the rules and not entered the Nürburgring TT? what if were one of the few people on your list that had gold on every single TT and wanted to keep that gold run going...I'd just have to suck it up and say rues are rules and there goes my gold streak. I don't think so
I did. Completed the Nord TT (and 918 one) but didn't enter the Suzuka one as a user cannot be over 18 and under 18 at the same time (save a person who may have turned 18 while the TT was open but likely there was verbiage in the fine print that said something like "...your age when the TT is complete...").

I am not going to get on a soapbox about it, but that was - and still is - my view on it. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility, to Half_Sourly's point, that people wouldn't enter both just because you theoretically can. To each their own.
 
Hello guys!

Been playing GT7 for a few weeks now but I just started with Sport Mode TTs yesterday. Heard that Alsace is rather easy so I thought I give it a try. Turned out that it's quite a bit harder than I thought. Bronze wasn't a problem and silver was close but I just couldn't make it.
Today I tried again and I managed to improve to a decent silver time.
I would appreciate if you had some tips for me so I can improve my driving further:



I think I lose a lot of time in sector 1 for example. Every video I saw on YouTube is under 17 here but I just can't do it. If I accelerate earlier I always end up at Barry R.
I'm on controller and ghosts distract me, so unfortunately I can't use those.
 
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Remember that the Michelin TT is supposed to give you a trip to GTWS World Finals? Problem is, the winner, Kajracer, is already in GTWS as part of Netherlands' Nations Cup team. (Teams for Showdown and World Finals are expected to be the same.)

What would happen to the prize? The skimming of the terms page (now no longer available) did not give me anything about it.

EDIT: If Kaj is deemed ineligible for the prize because of him already part of GTWS World Finals, CornedBeefPasty of UK would, provisionally, take the prize. (Leaderboards)

EDIT 2: Confirmation from Kaj himself:
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I would appreciate if you had some tips for me so I can improve my driving further...I'm on controller and ghosts distract me, so unfortunately I can't use those.
Two things I noticed right off the bat - TC off if you can, and try to brake later and spend less time coasting (but don't overdo it).

All the brakings are trail braking zones more or less as well, so it requires balance between steering hard and braking only enough to not go straight
 
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Hello guys!

Been playing GT7 for a few weeks now but I just started with Sport Mode TTs yesterday. Heard that Alsace is rather easy so I thought I give it a try. Turned out that it's quite a bit harder than I thought. Bronze wasn't a problem and silver was close but I just couldn't make it.
Today I tried again and I managed to improve to a decent silver time.
I would appreciate if you had some tips for me so I can improve my driving further:



I think I lose a lot of time in sector 1 for example. Every video I saw on YouTube is under 17 here but I just can't do it. If I accelerate earlier I always end up at Barry R.
I'm on controller and ghosts distract me, so unfortunately I can't use those.

Ghosts can be distracting but that's the point. They instruct. Watch the subtlety of the lap and where the ghost is and what speed he's carrying. Watch the brake lights. I find i have a hard time judging the braking the most and ghosts really help me find those extra tenths in the braking zones.

Laps. Make lots of laps and try small changes in the way you enter and exit corners. Sometimes it's not what you think... and lastly, I think Alsace is a great one to learn how to learn a track because it's so damn short and for me at least it's a lot of fun.

I was you not long ago. I've gotten quite a bit better just watching the aliens in here and just lurking around reading suggestions. It's a great place for improvement. Some of the best in the world are regulars.
 
This will be my last post on the issue, but first I'd like to apologise to everyone for dragging this thread down a negative road - for that I'm sorry.

I'd be stupid to think some people wouldn't take issue with others entering an event that had clear definitions on who could or couldn't enter. As far as I'm concerned the rules only applied to Japanese players. The door was left open for anyone to register and go for the certificate and the 2 million credits. The real tournament is only open to the top 10 Japanese players...so I'm not cheating out or hurting anyone's chances of qualifying as I'm not Japanese.

"The top 10 ranked players from both the U17 and Challenge Classes in Japan will qualify for the GT Grand Final 2023 at the Honda Welcome Plaza in the Aoyama district of Tokyo on December 10 (this event is restricted to Japanese residents)." - https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt7/news/00_5087785.html

Even Tadasuke Makino (age26) had a go at the U17 TT. Honda (official event holder) setting a very bad example here.😜

https://honda.racing/post/video-tad...honda-racing-e-ms-2023-gt-fastest-attack-2023

@half_sourly I want you to know that I'll always appreciate the effort you put in even though it looks like I don't.

And with that I'm done with the matter.
 
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I was sitting two tenths from gold in the Mazda 3 at Alsace, and the livery I had on it wasn't hitting the spot, so I decided to give it a BTCC style livery and have a good go at extracting some time out of it...

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Twelve laps later and I'd managed to drop below the gold cut-off by 0.2s. I started to really find a good rhythm and worked out those two awful hairpins top and bottom of the hill. Definitely the two trickiest corners on this terrible circuit!!

Now on to the Mercedes at Interlagos.
 
@Boabdulrahman ...... you are still save .. :lol:
Tried many laps this morning just to figure out that my previous lap wasn't that bad at all :lol::lol:
Like @Evilmuffin said in his post...., i also have a hard time getting lower than that :lol::lol:
did some .8xx laps this morning but never reached a .7xx

Tried switching ghost from djolliea to @Metalgear9493 but boy..... that does not raise the motivation :lol::lol:,
i'm better now at S1, i can kind of follow him thru the S'es, but the infield is a different story,
from T6 he just rockets off :lol::lol:

for now.... you are save mate!
 
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Hello guys!

Been playing GT7 for a few weeks now but I just started with Sport Mode TTs yesterday. Heard that Alsace is rather easy so I thought I give it a try. Turned out that it's quite a bit harder than I thought. Bronze wasn't a problem and silver was close but I just couldn't make it.
Today I tried again and I managed to improve to a decent silver time.
I would appreciate if you had some tips for me so I can improve my driving further:



I think I lose a lot of time in sector 1 for example. Every video I saw on YouTube is under 17 here but I just can't do it. If I accelerate earlier I always end up at Barry R.
I'm on controller and ghosts distract me, so unfortunately I can't use those.

As @TumeK5 already stated, Try to learn to drive without TC and you are coasting a lot, try to avoid that, it is either you are giving a gas (accelerating) or braking, if possible. Check video how I was learning back in the days, and please read comments on that post, you will learn from my mistakes.


if you want me to make similar video comparison (plus make better quality compared to video I am linking to, so I do not take video from youtube, share your video in game, give me keywords) I can make video comparison and it will be easier to spot where you can gain some time.

One more thing if you can do, racing line is also important thing, your ones are good but they can be better. that means if car is pointing in optimal direction you can start accelerating earlier than you do now, and that can lower your time too.

Pretty good for playing for few weeks!

Edit* linking to previous post shows wrong preview text, but link leads to correct post so it's good at the end.
 
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Try to learn to drive without TC.

TC off if you can
I want to highlight the "if you can" part here. These guys are a lot more advanced than I am, and I certainly don't want to argue that turning off TC won't give you an advantage if you've already mastered the basics, but if you're like me, the added complexity of having to worry about spinning off the track is not worth it (yet). You can easily get into gold territory with TC on, and doing so might make it easier for you to concentrate on getting your line right and practicing trail braking, which to me, seem to provide the bigger leverage.

Anyway, just two cents from an average player.
 
I want to highlight the "if you can" part here. These guys are a lot more advanced than I am, and I certainly don't want to argue that turning off TC won't give you an advantage if you've already mastered the basics, but if you're like me, the added complexity of having to worry about spinning off the track is not worth it (yet). You can easily get into gold territory with TC on, and doing so might make it easier for you to concentrate on getting your line right and practicing trail braking, which to me, seem to provide the bigger leverage.

Anyway, just two cents from an average player.
It is good that we get more suggestions and everyone do how it suits them in that moment of time. Good advice!
 
Thx so far everyone for your tips and suggestions!

@330_D brought something to my mind I didn't even think of. As I said, I just can't use ghosts while trying to set a time but maybe I could just watch 'em to see the line and brake points.

And concerning TCS: I did indeed try to disable it yesterday but for the Ferrari I didn't feel/see any difference. My default for TCS is 1 and after restarting the TT I didn't bother/think about it anymore. But I guess you guys are right, optimal setting would be off.

Another question: Do you keep brake balance on default?


@Barareklam : Thx, will check the thread you linked later today (I'm at work right now😞)
 
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I trashed so many good try’s in the last corner 😟
Anyway I improved but I don’t feel comfortable with the time 🤷‍♂️
Has to be a 1.35.xxx at least I guess…I’am working on it .

Something off topic …
I tried to stick a replay folder to my current lap time like the pros usually do…but after half an hour …watching several videos and reading files …I failed…maybe I just to old and stupid .
Off course I did the annoying part in my items to start the sharing process.
I saved best time and replay.
If I go on load ghost under collection it is there and I can load it but how I stick the Folder behind my name and the little icon shows up ?

Best regards
 

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Something off topic …
I tried to stick a replay folder to my current lap time like the pros usually do…but after half an hour …watching several videos and reading files …I failed…maybe I just to old and stupid .
Off course I did the annoying part in my items to start the sharing process.
I saved best time and replay.
If I go on load ghost under collection it is there and I can load it but how I stick the Folder behind my name and the little icon shows up ?

Best regards
I think what you're referring to is the replay icon to the right side of the Global Leaderboard? In which case, I believe that will only show up if that replay was some top number (10?) time. Otherwise, any replays you add to your collection for ghosts will be located in that place that you mentioned from the 'file'.
 
@GlockPants

I thought about it too
Maybe only the guys in 1% range to the world record could do that .
Anyway I found nowhere a explanation how it works.
The screen shows a guy on pos 7000 not even gold the only possibility is that he was one of the first participates in the time trial.
 

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Thx so far everyone for your tips and suggestions!

@330_D brought something to my mind I didn't even think of. As I said, I just can't use ghosts while trying to set a time but maybe I could just watch 'em to see the line and brake points.

And concerning TCS: I did indeed try to disable it yesterday but for the Ferrari I didn't feel/see any difference. My default for TCS is 1 and after restarting the TT I didn't bother/think about it anymore. But I guess you guys are right, optimal setting would be off.

Another question: Do you keep brake balance on default?


@Barareklam : Thx, will check the thread you linked later today (I'm at work right now😞)
I had exactly the same when i started playing the Time trials, god, the times i screwed up a good sector or lap because i got distracted from a ghost is not even funny, ( and still happens sometimes )
but......, then i foind out you can adjust the distance of it, and respwan it at that distance every new sector, and that's where i became better, but it depents on the track, like Alsace i can follow the top ghost at 0.2 or 0.3 seconds for the ghost, but i can't do that on Interlagos for example, then it distracts me som much so i'll put it at 0.5 or 0.6

what that gives me is absolutely no distraction but it does show me where the ghost shoots of or where i gain, and the shoot off i want to know cause there lies my time to gain.

For Alsace for example i purely tried to drive behind the ghost, sound easy i know, and obvious.... but the fact is, if you can follow you got your line, may take some restarts, but eventually you get better.

As far for the TCS, for Alsace if you drive the Mazda i will def turn it of, you only have understeer if you stuff up and you can do many laps in a short amount of time so your learning curve should be more easy on Alsace then on a longer track.

Looking at your lap, indeed less coasting, you loose a lot from that on T1 and you kind of mis the apex there, you will notice that you only have to lift after you hit the apex and can throllte out, pulls the mazda beautifull thru the turn.

And use the whole track before the uphill section, you can eat a lot of curb there and brake at start curb or just after on the left plus you can be a lot closer to the Barry R on the right, hit or mis, but if you hit it just right!

You can also brake a little later for the final corner, you have quite a big moment between off throttle and brake there, you can slam the brakes just before the curb and rotate after.

But not a bad lap mate, just needs to sharpen the edges :):)
 
@GlockPants

I thought about it too
Maybe only the guys in 1% range to the world record could do that .
Anyway I found nowhere a explanation how it works.
The screen shows a guy on pos 7000 not even gold the only possibility is that he was one of the first participates in the time trial.
Just as @newmedia_dev said, that P7000 time was probably P1-10 (or whatever replays are saved) at an earlier time. If you set a time as soon as the time trial starts, you have good odds of being one of the top laps, if only briefly.
 
I think I've squeezed out all the time I can at Alsace.

Still made pretty good progress, but I can't seem to get consistent 1st and 2nd sectors to bring that time any lower.

0.2 seconds over my old PB is pretty good on a short lap, though. 2nd highest placement I've gotten on the TT, I think.

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