Time Trial Discussion
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Not liking this new one, I've just spent 1 hour 30 minutes on it and am at 3:44.060 because I have invalidated 3 gold laps now on the last damn chicane 🤬 and I'm getting too frustrated with it now because it invalidates the next lap so I restart which means I then can't see my deltas.
Think I'm probably going to leave this at silver which is annoying, knowing that I can get gold 😢
Think I'm probably going to leave this at silver which is annoying, knowing that I can get gold 😢
feral and bad
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- double_rating7
Until somebody else wakes up another alien.Alrighty then,did a 3:41.541,kept going and dropped another .031,all is right with the world again
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Thanks for tips, I'll try it to put them to track.
Again, thanks for the advices.
So you mean if I have to turn right, I need to be as much as possible left before turning?
I'm always trying that, but sometimes I find myself on the wrong places.
Hi,
Another cracking session here today. Tsukuba is growing on me. Got it down to 1:12:064. The level of precision and accuracy required to consistently hit this time is staggering. I have no idea how the Aliens manage this. I am still over a second away from the fastest time.
Also... Maybe Half_Sourly could help me on this one... (Hope so!)
I logged a time of 1:12:313. That placed me at around the 6000 mark. Having had some guidance and some more practice I now have a time of 1:12:064. That time has me placed at around 3200 at time of writing this. So my question is this:
I lop around 3/10ths of my time and move 2700 places up. The I lop another 6/100ths off and move around 500 places up.
Is there some form of curve over the total player base and times please?
Please forgive my apparent ignorance. Maths was not a favourite subject as a youngster.
Best regards to all here.
Ian.
Another cracking session here today. Tsukuba is growing on me. Got it down to 1:12:064. The level of precision and accuracy required to consistently hit this time is staggering. I have no idea how the Aliens manage this. I am still over a second away from the fastest time.
Also... Maybe Half_Sourly could help me on this one... (Hope so!)
I logged a time of 1:12:313. That placed me at around the 6000 mark. Having had some guidance and some more practice I now have a time of 1:12:064. That time has me placed at around 3200 at time of writing this. So my question is this:
I lop around 3/10ths of my time and move 2700 places up. The I lop another 6/100ths off and move around 500 places up.
Is there some form of curve over the total player base and times please?
Please forgive my apparent ignorance. Maths was not a favourite subject as a youngster.
Best regards to all here.
Ian.
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- Chrome_PuPXD
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- half_sourly
Hi Ian,
Yes, there are curves and there are a couple of things I publish that might help. They look very different for different tracks and cars, with somewhere like Tsukuba giving you quite a lot of places for little time gained (short track and condensed field), while somewhere like Le Mans giving you very few for similar time gained (long track, spread out field).
The first thing I publish is this graph after each event. Here is an example from the recent Brands Hatch TT.
The blue line shows the number of people at each time (time is down the horizontal x-axis), here split by 0.1 second increments and you can read the number off the right hand hand side (the one that goes from 0 to 3,500). The red line shows how many drivers are under a certain time. It is obviously not fine enough to read detail off, but for example if you follow the 100,000 line from the left y-axis to where it crosses the red line, you'll see it is around 1:52.662. That means 100,000 drivers were under that time. If you were 0.6 seconds quicker, so 1:51.062, then there were about 70,000 under that time, so you would have made up 30,000 places.
But as I mentioned, this graph is less for that and you can't read detail off it, and more about showing the spread with the blue line, and particularly those spikes you see before the gold and silver thresholds, where people made the effort to just get on the right side of the line.
Another way to get an idea of how many places you'll gain by improving by a certain time, is when I do the weekly interim updates. Here is the one I did on Thursday for Tsukuba. Say you were on 1:16.0 you can see there are 121,687 drivers around that time. If you moved to 1:15.5, you can see 116,242 drivers there. So you will gain just over 5,000 places if you can 0.5 seconds.
If you improved from 1:15.0 (108,265) to 1:14.5 (96,497), you'd gain almost 12,000 places.
Using your time gains - remember this data was from last Thursday so will have changed - we can see it more or less matches:
1:12.3 was around 5,597th at the time.
1:12.06 was around 3,000th (somewhere between 1:12.135 and 1:12.035)
I know that is not a perfect answer, but hopefully gives you some insight. Feel free to ask if you have more questions.
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Thanks a lot my friend !!!!
I didn't fight too hard to get the money. But once I got the money, I fought a little harder to improve this time. Gold isn't very far away but I don't see where I could save time to get gold, especially since I can only ride as much during my vacation !!!! Just one day a week won't be enough. Good luck to you my friend 💪💪💪 Go go go my friend !!!!
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How can I improve my time at Tsukuba? See the first turn is killing my time some because I'll brake and then I'll let up on the gas and press on the throttle. Turns 3 and 4 are costing me time too. I guess I won't worry about it too much, my health is much more important, so is my family and friends in my neighborhood.
If anyone has any replays or advice to give, I would truly appreciate it.
Thanks.
If anyone has any replays or advice to give, I would truly appreciate it.
Thanks.
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Very very satisfying afternoon for me! I busted into silver at Le Mans with a 3:45.3xx and was about to exit out when I said to myself "self, that's a fairly safe silver there...buuuut not quite safe enough!" So I went back in for more...and I got it! It ain't gold, but I'm pretty pleased.
It really is an amazing feeling when you get over a hurdle in this game and all of a sudden you find what seemed impossible for so long is suddenly your new normal. I was really feeling like 3:46 might be out of the question this morning...and then all of a sudden something clicked and I found a whole bunch of time that just didn't exist for me till then. From thinking 3:46 was probably insurmountable to now it's a bad lap for me is such a crazy thing.
It really is an amazing feeling when you get over a hurdle in this game and all of a sudden you find what seemed impossible for so long is suddenly your new normal. I was really feeling like 3:46 might be out of the question this morning...and then all of a sudden something clicked and I found a whole bunch of time that just didn't exist for me till then. From thinking 3:46 was probably insurmountable to now it's a bad lap for me is such a crazy thing.
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Give it a try, Daniel!
IMO it's much more comfortable to do than the CE in the Peugeot (especially in the last sector), because it's not so crazy fast.
And the track is much more forgiving than the Nordschleife IMO, because at the Nord it's much easier to sum up mistakes and bad exits are much more hardly punished because the full throttle parts after corners are often uphills.
Therefore at the Nordschleife per lap I am half an hour slower than the Muffin thereas at Le Mans just 5 minutes 😆
As I know you, you will comfortably get silver 🥈 with a glass 🍷in your hand, and if @smoothbore12 jumps in for a GOD-battle de Bruin has got a problem 😜
Cheers
Martin
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Hi Chris, nice that you are back.
I have two suggestions. First one. Try to load ghost, which one you think you can follow somehow, it can be top one or a bit slower one, doesn't matter right now. Try to set your best lap and then turn on personal best ghost too. In order to see where you can improve, you need to see where and why you are losing time, so do following, set ghosts on 0.2 or 0.3 and to reset after every sector. See this time as educational session. Now try to drive after ghosts with mission not to actually improve PB at the moment but to study ghosts, what you are doing differently and to learn what to do when you go for next attempt. Mission is to try to copy what fast ghost of doing, where he is braking, turning in, accelerating. You can experiment to change ghost distance to 0.1 or 0.2 or 0.3 yes they might be disturbing at first but keep in mind you are not going for PB right now but just following ghosts and learning. When you think you learned what you can improve, that can be braking point, or turn in point or accelerating point, then turn off ghosts and do how you usually do to get fast lap. Tsukuba has some 180 degree turns so turn in point, or rather steering input might go from first 45 degrees at entrance of turn, then to 90 degrees at apex and then again 45 degrees when exciting turn. This might sound obvious but in this very challenge it's very important when you are exciting turn to try to straighten up input as soon as you can otherwise car will not accelerate equally fast as you maybe notice that ghost starts pulling away from you. Hope I explained properly and still kept it in reasonable text length to read.
Second option is if you want I can do lap comparison between fastest ghost and you. ( I can do comparison between my lap and your but right now I would not recommend that because it's much better to learn from Doodle who drives much better than me, so you don't learn my mistakes and repeat them) In that case you need to be ok with me posting your lap and then members here can give you advices. Save your best lap in that case and share here keywords how I can find your lap. Then you can watch laps side by side and maybe that gives you better understanding where you can improve.
Good luck, go for the gold 🥇
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I had a better handle on the McLaren in today's session, and I got myself into the low 39's. Unfortunately, I mangled the Porsche Curves and corner after on my fast lap. Should be in the 38's soon (probably would have been there on that lap if not for the mistake).
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While there are exceptions.....this is the general rule of thumb. It is simple physics, you want to draw the biggest arc possible....why? The bigger the arc, the faster the speed. While you are traveling a longer distance, you will have much higher average speed...and ended up spending less time through the corner. Not to mention you will end up with a much higher exiting speed compare to a narrower line.
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