Time Trial Discussion
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330_D
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I tried auto once after I switched to fully manual and maybe made it a third of the way through a lap before I reset to manual. It's the very first thing to do to gain time if you are a driver on the cusp. It's annoying to learn but short stints often at a familiar track with a familiar car is the way to go.
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speaking about downshifting: I understand that shifting properly may make some difference, but what are the rules/focus points that actually generate this difference?
My (poor and not-acknoledge) are:
try to be rithmic trowing down gears
with specific cars (i.e. the Dino couple of weeks ago) leave some additional time between start of braking and start of shifting
try to do the final shift just after starting to rotate the wheel
Do they make sense of are complete crap?
Thanks
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I don't think there's any universal rule wrt gear shifting. It varies depending on the car. Generally you want to be in the right power band so that the shift doesn't throw the car into chaos (or lug and bleed speed) but it largely just becomes second nature and a "feel thing" ftmp. Some cars you want to be riding the redline before shifting. Others have the torque to handle earlier shifts.
For learning purposes I'd say go out on an oval in a car that handles nicely and just do some laps and shift the gears. You basically just listen for the engine to sound like it's approaching the rev limit and shift. With time you'll start to get a feel for when a car might respond well to shifting earlier or even later. For downshifting you want to slow a bit and drop the gear and then accelerate. Even if you're engine braking you still need to manage the revs before you downshift.
For learning purposes I'd say go out on an oval in a car that handles nicely and just do some laps and shift the gears. You basically just listen for the engine to sound like it's approaching the rev limit and shift. With time you'll start to get a feel for when a car might respond well to shifting earlier or even later. For downshifting you want to slow a bit and drop the gear and then accelerate. Even if you're engine braking you still need to manage the revs before you downshift.
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Im sorry, but it is difficult to explain how to use manual. Maybe someone else can chime in.
What I can say is that with manual, you decide at what RPM you want the gear to shift - its not up to a computer to decide.
Advantages
- You can short shift to avoid wheel spin and gain traction
- You can downshift to use engine braking in combination with the brakes to slow you down - this helps with rotation (I am not a fan of saucing the gears as @Gomario JSP likes to call it
)
I sometimes drift, and with full control of the gears, its how I can control the weight transfer - this must also apply when I am hot lapping but its not something I have ever taken notice of.
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- half_sourly
I forget the source but the advice (for shifting after a long straight into a tight corner, but you can adapt the advice from there) was to consider shifting down one gear half-way from starting to brake to apex, then next shift half-way between there and apex and so on to your desired target gear on entry. The point of that is that you want to minimise weight transfer and be smooth. You want to minimise weight transfer because you want to have and retain as much grip as possible on each of the four tyres for the maximum possible time.
330_D
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The other thing is rev matching. It's important. It keeps the car much more stable and planted.
The half distance downshift idea that Mr Sourly posted about is something I try to do but am usually just scrambling to hang on at that point so I usually miss... 😁😁 But the idea makes a ton of sense.
Also when you downshift to sauce it drives the front end into the ground and gives more turn in ability without using your brakes. Not every car likes it and some cars just want you to brake without shifting, as well. Very individual to each driver and each car as to what makes you faster, these are just more techniques available as your skills progress to find every little extra thousandth you can.
The half distance downshift idea that Mr Sourly posted about is something I try to do but am usually just scrambling to hang on at that point so I usually miss... 😁😁 But the idea makes a ton of sense.
Also when you downshift to sauce it drives the front end into the ground and gives more turn in ability without using your brakes. Not every car likes it and some cars just want you to brake without shifting, as well. Very individual to each driver and each car as to what makes you faster, these are just more techniques available as your skills progress to find every little extra thousandth you can.
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What's the bronze drift challenge? I'm game for it, but don't let the pics fool you... I'm only ok at drifting in the game. Stringing a lap together with clean slides is still very hard for me. Opposite lock in this game is sooo hard to maintain! It's much easier in the real world. Its made even more difficult by the lack of an e-brake and clutch... I'm scandinavian flicking the heck out of this thing in corner entries!
Those pics do look like the AMG has a somewhat open diff, but I assure you its well locked when you push it. IIRC these GT-Rs have a really good e-diff that provides lock-up quickly. GT7s smoke rendering is kinda weird, and sometimes it takes a long time until it is produced, with the smoke coming from the outside tire first. Those slides are well into 4th gear before the smoke started!
You will have NO issues getting the Merc to slide whenever you want! It's probably one of the more controllable cars in the game to drift right out of the box.
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Ran a 1'49.803, equal first of the available replays. Made a hefty mistake at the tight left hand hairpin towards the end, but somewhat regathered the lap and executed the last 3 corners pretty decently. 
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Can never show my face round these parts again
To be honest I didn't even realise the fake, I just saw him head towards the tiny gap so figured I'd swing out wide for the cutback with him on such a tight line, but he defended that well
Here's it from my pov
(I still finished ahead because Steve met Barry R on lap 6)
Bro! So just so we are clear, we are competing against a guy who goes wheel to wheel with some of the fastest GT7 racers on the planet!? Insane 🤯 great clean racing too, I would have shunted Steve off the track if he had done that to me (no wait, I wouldn’t have been quick enough to be ahead of him in the first place hahah)
Hi everybody, work is going well this week and I passed my big ‘check’. Just two sims to go and I’ll be home! Hopefully they go well 😬
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This is what happens in real life when you sauce a Corolla.
Corolla money shift
Glad it's going well.
Corolla money shift
Any changes to the matter-antimatter destruction propulsion or time-folding calculations you can share?
Glad it's going well.feral and bad
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Anyone got a boat anchor to attach to Jeddah? I complained about how bad my throttle control is and this TT is what the universe rewarded me with.
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Thanks a lot my friend !!!
I try to do a few laps without TC but on this AMG it's a little harder. Yes I am finding my way to gold after having won silver on 2 circuits (Le Mans and Nurburgring) which were too long for me !!!
