Time Trial Discussion

[AdxRE]

This AMG GT R gave me nightmare when GT7 was first released. I think it was one of the last rounds of the International A licence test where I spent HOURS trying to Gold that on controller (and totaled 200 AMG GT in the process). It took even longer than the one with a 917 on a semi-wet Spa.

Fast forward 2 years, I would say this is another one of the great TTs on the same level of the 911 RS on Nurburgring. It has a perfect combination of Power, Grip and Track. It was all good until the first braking zone but as long as I got used to the new braking points then it was enjoyable.

Actually managed a fine time last night at 1:50.921 which was 59th Globally (Should be closer to 200th for now?). Probably need to be braver on the throttle and let the tail slide more at turn-in in order to get even faster - may come back to this one as it was pure enjoyment driving this around a track that I know well.

 

[Gogga]

@Gogga @Gorefast shall we test out the oversteer issues for everyone... Sideways bronze laps 😉

Shall try but not promising anything spectacular. I need the diff locked.
You did an amazing job in the Silvia at Brands not long ago

I have yet to attempt the Mclaren at Lemans. Not really looking forward to this one. I love the car and track but high downforce and me don't go together. I like them wild and loose at the rear.

Will get to it this weekend.

 

[LSFDRX]

Dipped into the AMG TT and saw that I need to be in the 1:51s to be in the ballpark. Didn't quite get there after about 20 laps. Landed at a 1:52.108 at the moment... about 1200th, and squarely at the bottom of the list, haha!

But man, isn't this one great? The GT-R is just so good. Predictable, poised, powerful... and the right amount of soft. It's just about perfect, so fun to drive, and endlessly correctable.

Anyone else turning blown laps into drift sessions? It makes mistakes just as fun as a fast lap!

Didn't get into the Lemans TT yet, it just seemed too daunting tonight, haha. I'll get to it after the weekend, and get this Merc into the 1:51s. Happy lapping!

 

[Gorefast]

Dipped into the AMG TT and saw that I need to be in the 1:51s to be in the ballpark. Didn't quite get there after about 20 laps. Landed at a 1:52.108 at the moment... about 1200th, and squarely at the bottom of the list, haha!

But man, isn't this one great? The GT-R is just so good. Predictable, poised, powerful... and the right amount of soft. It's just about perfect, so fun to drive, and endlessly correctable.

Anyone else turning blown laps into drift sessions? It makes mistakes just as fun as a fast lap!

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Didn't get into the Lemans TT yet, it just seemed too daunting tonight, haha. I'll get to it after the weekend, and get this Merc into the 1:51s. Happy lapping!

You might tandem with @P-Courty ... Awesome drifting! Stay sideways and have a nice weekend! 👍

 

[MattD42]

After a while away due to exams (damn engineering degree taking away leisure time), it took a little while to get back into things, but boy was it fun.

And with the merc (no vid because i forgot):

More to come with the AMG, its one slidey boi (suiting my style nicely). Great combos this week!

 

[Gomario JSP]

Quick little first session in the Merc on the TV..
Much better than remote

Playfull challenge i must say but man this car feels heavy...., i can't imagine driving this in reallife knowing you can't realy depend on your brakes, plus the oversteer is over the top i think..., altho never driven this one, i drove the old SLS AMG and that felt kind of light ( no sideways action thru the city tho, didn't think the dealer would appriciate that )

But session wasn't bad at all

I'm planning to do some lapping this weekend in the mornings with a new livery @Evilmuffin so that should me get into 50's if it's faaaanccyyyy

 

[P-Courty]

@LSFDRX you going to join the bronze drift challenge with me, @Gogga and @Gorefast 😉

Looks like this is going to be a fun one to try tomorrow, the Mclaren can stay in silver for me this looks way more my style.

Shall try but not promising anything spectacular. I need the diff locked.
You did an amazing job in the Silvia at Brands not long ago

Thank you, it was fun to try.

Looking at @LSFDRX pictures it's going to be another one wheel peel until fully sideways, good luck 😁

As Colin Mcrae would say "When in doubt, flat out" 🔥

 

[crome]

Congrats on the platinum trophy I thought I had this a few weeks back when I finally hit 50 Sport races but now at 53 and still no trophy 😭 I suspect that this will be my only one too when it finally arrives (it's like waiting for a Bugatti ticket to clear all the extra menus 😅)

Thanks, I am sure you are close, for me it was race 52. I finalized that chapter with a glorious 10th place in a Race B against DR C drivers 🤣 ... I guess I am just rubbish at actual racing.

 

[Lomic]

Thanks, I am sure you are close, for me it was race 52. I finalized that chapter with a glorious 10th place in a Race B against DR C drivers 🤣 ... I guess I am just rubbish at actual racing.

I need to race more online and not only in lobbies with friends (too bad it does not count...).

But my unobtainium is this trophy : Hard Work Pays Off Earned Gold in all normal licenses.

Most probably the one that will prevent me to ever get this Platinum.

Fortunately they did not thought to add a trophy for golding all CE, otherwise, it would be another unobtainium for me 😅

 

[crome]

But my unobtainium is this trophy : Hard Work Pays Off Earned Gold in all normal licenses.

Most probably the one that will prevent me to ever get this Platinum.

Yeah, this was definitely the hardest one, the rest is just work. In particular S10 felt positively impossible when I first attempted it a year ago or so. I tried again two months ago because I knew I had gotten better through all those TTs, and suddenly it was very doable (but still far from easy).

 

[zjn]

Dipped into the AMG TT and saw that I need to be in the 1:51s to be in the ballpark. Didn't quite get there after about 20 laps. Landed at a 1:52.108 at the moment... about 1200th, and squarely at the bottom of the list, haha!

But man, isn't this one great? The GT-R is just so good. Predictable, poised, powerful... and the right amount of soft. It's just about perfect, so fun to drive, and endlessly correctable.

Anyone else turning blown laps into drift sessions? It makes mistakes just as fun as a fast lap!

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Didn't get into the Lemans TT yet, it just seemed too daunting tonight, haha. I'll get to it after the weekend, and get this Merc into the 1:51s. Happy lapping!

It is something I'd like to do but I'm not really capable. I've also looked for some tutorials, but I haven't found the one for me yet. Many people simply say to go to Willow and make rounds.... I don't know--it may be a matter of devoting time to it, but to me I just don't seem to have figured out how to coordinate pedals and steering wheel yet

 

[Chris30]

I need to race more online and not only in lobbies with friends (too bad it does not count...).

But my unobtainium is this trophy : Hard Work Pays Off Earned Gold in all normal licenses.

Most probably the one that will prevent me to ever get this Platinum.

Fortunately they did not thought to add a trophy for golding all CE, otherwise, it would be another unobtainium for me 😅

Good luck at Barcelona, are you ready for the heat. I'm gearing up for Le Mans, I've got about a week to do the best I can there. Maybe I should drink some coffee to help me stay awake and give me some extra energy.

@zjn TBH watching the top 20 drivers replays does not help at all, they have weird, insane lines and braking points that I cannot understand and figure out. It blows my mind everytime!

 

[Lomic]

Good luck at Barcelona, are you ready for the heat. I'm gearing up for Le Mans

Just in bronze at Le Mans. Not completed a lap at Barcelona yet. Lot of work this week.

Good luck with the McLaren 😉

 

[MUC76]

Most probably the one that will prevent me to ever get this Platinum

I remember myself singing "917 in the rain, nanananaaah, nanananah" several weekends 😅

 

[Gogga]

TBH watching the top 20 drivers replays does not help at all, they have weird, insane lines and braking points that I cannot understand and figure out. It blows my mind everytime!

Use it to learn the ideal racing line and braking points. This is the fastest way around the track. It will help you immensely in setting faster times and make earning bronze/silver/gold much easier.

 

[MIE1992]

This most recent time trial at Catalunya is a lot of fun, plus I'm deep into silver range again. The AMG GT R feels like a rocket, insofar that I can hardly believe this thing is entirely stock!

 

[SPOOLMAN]

Gave it a second attempt to secure gold. Getting used to the track limits now.

 

[zjn]

Good luck at Barcelona, are you ready for the heat. I'm gearing up for Le Mans, I've got about a week to do the best I can there. Maybe I should drink some coffee to help me stay awake and give me some extra energy.

@zjn TBH watching the top 20 drivers replays does not help at all, they have weird, insane lines and braking points that I cannot understand and figure out. It blows my mind everytime!

Use it to learn the ideal racing line and braking points. This is the fastest way around the track. It will help you immensely in setting faster times and make earning bronze/silver/gold much easier.

Both of you have your parts of reason.
Obviously the best trajectories are those and and it is important to learn them and watch them both in the replay and from the ghost.
Braking points are a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing for us "differently alien" folks.
Let me explain: using the same braking points means knowing how to handle the car in the braking itself, knowing how to do trail braking, and negotiating with weight transfers, etc. etc.
In short, it typically means for us to brake too late and have too high apex speed, assuming we get it, the apex.
With this car it's even more true, since it brakes like my pedal bike, and it tends to overtake you with its butt when you get back on the accelerator. So they have to be taken with a bit a judgement call. Most of the time trying at all cost to replicate them is not beneficial to the overall result.

On the drift it was a more general joke. It bugs the hell out of me to be a real goat* at it and I would like to learn that driving style.

*note for the foreigners
Is English being the g.o.a.t is a good thing, in Italian begin a goat at something means that you really suck at it

 

[Lomic]

note for the foreigners
Is English being the g.o.a.t is a good thing, in Italian begin a goat at something means that you really suck at it

Same in France 😁 I am a goat at TTs but I have fun 🙂

 

[AshenGraey]

The pages move so quickly and I can't keep up so not sure if that's been asked already, is it just coincidence that we have 2 TTs that lined up perfectly with 2 real world events? LeMans this weekend and the Spanish GP next weekend. Or have PD always done that and I just never noticed? 😆

 

[Barareklam]

The pages move so quickly and I can't keep up so not sure if that's been asked already, is it just coincidence that we have 2 TTs that lined up perfectly with 2 real world events? LeMans this weekend and the Spanish GP next weekend. Or have PD always done that and I just never noticed? 😆

Well not Always but it is happening, yes.
We recently also had Nordschelife when it was real event there at same time.

 

[Gogga]

Both of you have your parts of reason.
Obviously the best trajectories are those and and it is important to learn them and watch them both in the replay and from the ghost.
Braking points are a bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing for us "differently alien" folks.
Let me explain: using the same braking points means knowing how to handle the car in the braking itself, knowing how to do trail braking, and negotiating with weight transfers, etc. etc.
In short, it typically means for us to brake too late and have too high apex speed, assuming we get it, the apex.
With this car it's even more true, since it brakes like my pedal bike, and it tends to overtake you with its butt when you get back on the accelerator. So they have to be taken with a bit a judgement call. Most of the time trying at all cost to replicate them is not beneficial to the overall result.

On the drift it was a more general joke. It bugs the hell out of me to be a real goat* at it and I would like to learn that driving style.

*note for the foreigners
Is English being the g.o.a.t is a good thing, in Italian begin a goat at something means that you really suck at it

Fair enough, you have some good points here on mastering trail braking. It is one of the hardest things to learn to do.

The point of what I was trying to relay to @Chris30 is that there is nothing weird and insane about the lines and braking points that the top guys on the leader board take. The braking point will, in most cases always be the same. When you learn where that braking point is, you can always dial it a bit further back to compensate for the lack of trail braking.

Once you figure out the braking points and you are comfortable with negotiating the car through the turns, naturally you will figure out that you can brake a little later and carry more speed through the turns.

Its a learning process, and this is how you start. Weight transfer and trail braking will come in time.

@Chris30 has made a ton of improvements as the weeks go by. He just needs to apply all the good advice he gets here and it will all click very soon.
Its no use trying the same approach every single time and expecting a different end result.

 

[JasonMcDonald]

Yeah, this was definitely the hardest one, the rest is just work. In particular S10 felt positively impossible when I first attempted it a year ago or so. I tried again two months ago because I knew I had gotten better through all those TTs, and suddenly it was very doable (but still far from easy).

I remember my first stint Laguna Seca with the F1 and after finishing it I thought ok that was not so bad a few seconds later I realised I was 10sec behind bronze…😳😂

 

[Fury]

Barcelona and AMG is nice combo for drift.

 

[feral and bad]

Fair enough, you have some good points here on mastering trail braking. It is one of the hardest things to learn to do.

The point of what I was trying to relay to @Chris30 is that there is nothing weird and insane about the lines and braking points that the top guys on the leader board take. The braking point will, in most cases always be the same. When you learn where that braking point is, you can always dial it a bit further back to compensate for the lack of trail braking.

Once you figure out the braking points and you are comfortable with negotiating the car through the turns, naturally you will figure out that you can brake a little later and carry more speed through the turns.

Its a learning process, and this is how you start. Weight transfer and trail braking will come in time.

@Chris30 has made a ton of improvements as the weeks go by. He just needs to apply all the good advice he gets here and it will all click very soon.
Its no use trying the same approach every single time and expecting a different end result.

In my ongoing effort to be of some use, and at the very least serve as a bad example, the following works for me: "If you want to have faster lap times, brake earlier." As I understand it, this increases the car's ability to rotate and allows you to be pointed at the next straight earlier. My body/mind recoil at the very idea of slowing down to go faster, but when I can somehow do this, it does actually work.

 

[Gogga]

In my ongoing effort to be of some use, and at the very least serve as a bad example, the following works for me: "If you want to have faster lap times, brake earlier." As I understand it, this increases the car's ability to rotate and allows you to be pointed at the next straight earlier. My body/mind recoil at the very idea of slowing down to go faster, but when I can somehow do this, it does actually work.

Exactly this!!!

Brake earlier, the car is still stable through the corner and the weight transfer is not fighting you. You have the car pointed at your exit point and then you can nail that throttle to the floor. Exit speed on the straights is what its all about.

Smooth is fast

 

[ikon_313]

In my ongoing effort to be of some use, and at the very least serve as a bad example, the following works for me: "If you want to have faster lap times, brake earlier." As I understand it, this increases the car's ability to rotate and allows you to be pointed at the next straight earlier. My body/mind recoil at the very idea of slowing down to go faster, but when I can somehow do this, it does actually work.

Exactly this!!!

Brake earlier, the car is still stable through the corner and the weight transfer is not fighting you. You have the car pointed at your exit point and then you can nail that throttle to the floor. Exit speed on the straights is what its all about.

Smooth is fast

While slow in fast out is certainly enough for achieving gold, for chasing alien times fast in fast out is something one needs to master. I still struggle with optimal trail braking, rotation and minimizing time between braking and throttle. Although yeeting the cars around from time to time, most of the time I play it safe and brake early and still put down decent times for my driving miss daisy style

 

[Stormbreaker]

Had a blast driving this combo, very enjoyable for me 👌🏻44° in the world at the moment 1.50.722 🏁. DON'T DRIFT 😜

 

[MUC76]

While slow in fast out is certainly enough for achieving gold, for chasing alien times fast in fast out...

... not to forget my special disciplines
fast in no way out
fast in completely out

 

[Lomic]

Fair enough, you have some good points here on mastering trail braking. It is one of the hardest things to learn to do.

The point of what I was trying to relay to @Chris30 is that there is nothing weird and insane about the lines and braking points that the top guys on the leader board take. The braking point will, in most cases always be the same. When you learn where that braking point is, you can always dial it a bit further back to compensate for the lack of trail braking.

Once you figure out the braking points and you are comfortable with negotiating the car through the turns, naturally you will figure out that you can brake a little later and carry more speed through the turns.

Its a learning process, and this is how you start. Weight transfer and trail braking will come in time.

@Chris30 has made a ton of improvements as the weeks go by. He just needs to apply all the good advice he gets here and it will all click very soon.
Its no use trying the same approach every single time and expecting a different end result.

Plus I think there is another big difference with aliens (and many good players here) : using AT prevents you to use as efficiently the engine braking and you can't improve car rotation inside a turn by lowering a gear while coasting, nor going up one speed on exit to maximize traction.