Time Trial Discussion

[skidmark69]

no change in angle. It change only the sticktravel to tiremovement. The max angle stays the same. The problem is the controller isnt 1:1 movement like the steering wheel. If it was the same we wouldnt need so much sensetivity.
Like @Grimm6Jack and i mention, you can test it in superformula. Stay on track and move the stick quick left right left right, then do the same with steering wheel. There is a huge diffrent.

Yeah I understand the max steering angle doesn't change. But does sensitivity change how quickly you can get to that angle?

You can move the stick to one side as far as it goes and it takes several seconds (depending on the speed you're driving) before it reaches the max. This is the limiting factor I think, because it's possible to move the wheel faster than that.

But if the stick was 1:1 it would be insanely fast since you're just moving it a few millimetres to reach the max.

I think in an ideal scenario PD would have to simulate the steering of all cars and the forces at play as you drive in order to know how fast you should be able to move the steering angle if you had a wheel. This should then be the same for wheel users, who should be limited by resistance in the wheel to make steering slower or faster. But in reality this is probably way beyond the scope of a game like this, so they just use a generic model. And if wheels really are 1:1 then it should be a competitive gaming benefit to use small wheels with no resistance in order to get the fastest change in steering angles (and also limit the possible rotation of the wheel to as small as possible so you require less movement, even if the car has more wheel rotation in real life)

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Mate, I’ve seen you mixing it with Tidgney. You’re up there.

I’m a low A+, you would wipe the floor with me.

Tidgney usually starts at the back or is quite drunk when I race him, he is in a different league.

 

[RacinLei]

@skidmark69
Yes it changes a bit the speed but you lose stability for it over the kerbs. But the speed is still far away from steeringwheel.

 

[AstroVex]

I'm on my last day of attempts with a ds4. Super frustrating, I'm at .310 right now. I keep switching my Controller sensitivity 9 to 10 back and forth, but the problem lies in how I drive. Everytime I get close, I get nervous and mess the whole thing... One of my friends did it, so I know I can do it too, but man this is hard... Here we go again

 

[Blayney]

I've done 1000 miles without improvement. I'm +0.15 on gold. All others I've been gold. This has pissed me off. Can't wait to see the back of it and hope I never see this car or track again.

 

[AstroVex]

I've done 1000 miles without improvement. I'm +0.15 on gold. All others I've been gold. This has pissed me off. Can't wait to see the back of it and hope I never see this car or track again.

We're in this together man, I feel the same!!! Soo much time has been spent on this without improving, and this has infuriated me.

 

[half_sourly]

Everytime I get close, I get nervous and mess the whole thing...

I have the same issue so stick cardboard on my screen over the times and delta; I call it getting my Adrenaline Suppression System in gear .

With the cardboard stuck on I only see the final lap-times on the right of screen so no adrenaline spikes when you're on a good lap. I've been stuck on 1:00.088 for about a week and last night stuck the cardboards up again and I got down to 1:00.006. Not a massive improvement, but I had maybe 5 or 6 laps under my old record, where during the week of trying to beat my .088 I never got below 1:00.150-ish.

 

[tALEz]

Knew I wasn't safe at 1:00.233.
Put 800 miles today only to improve to 1:00.205. Somehow I feel it still won't be enough with 14hrs left for the TT.

Really T_T to this TT.

 

[AstroVex]

I keep trying to beat my own ghost, sometimes with a .1 or .2 sec in advance. If I can solve the mystery of turn 5, and nail turn 3 more constantly, I should be able to make it. Good Luck to all 😵

 

[Corins]

does anyone know the new tt?

 

[kowalski__1]

New gold time is now 1:00.210

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I keep trying to beat my own ghost, sometimes with a .1 or .2 sec in advance. If I can solve the mystery of turn 5, and nail turn 3 more constantly, I should be able to make it. Good Luck to all 😵

Turn 5 you have to pray to get it right. I myself can't figure it out either...

 

[250Cal]

Kie also said he checked pad and redbull has more grip on pad.

Not to be too technical with the analysis of that statement: It's bollocks

@racinglei
Yes it changes a bit the speed but you lose stability for it over the kerbs. But the speed is still far away from steeringwheel.

Also, it takes time to centre again. So even when you think you've got the steering at straightahead at corner exit, you still spin out when you get on the throttle as you've still got some steering angle.

So, basically, the DS4/DS5 controller is slower at every corner. And even moreso at chicanes.

 

[RacinLei]

I never struggle that hard on a track like on road atlanta. Normaly im not that far off. Mostly one and done.
PD deffenetly have to change the track limits so more people can achive gold.

 

[snc]

Also, it takes time to centre again. So even when you think you've got the steering at straightahead at corner exit, you still spin out when you get on the throttle as you've still got some steering angle.

Exactly my experience on wheel with this car even after 1k kilometers driven 🤔😁

 

[Barareklam]

I guess I will need to accept silver at 4,4%🥈 this time, with time 1:01:0**

And here is that lap, not that is worth to see..

 

[RacinLei]

@Barareklam

Respect for doing it with motion sense.
I would drive nuts with the wheel jumping all over the place 🤣

 

[kowalski__1]

I'm about ready to pull out what little hair i have left on my head ,lol,i just did another couple of hours or more.
My last 6 laps i did a new PB,down to 1:00.505 but my opt was 1:00.169.(sec 1-21.1--sec 2-23.2--sec 3-15.7)and i've had faster times in sectors 1 n 2 before......Less than 10 hours left,and i'm going back for more punishment!

 

[RacinLei]

One tip to lower the pressure on yourself.
Turn off the Ui and go several laps in a row.

 

[half_sourly]

I've got down to about 150 places below you with a 1:00.088. Gold should be safe so Mission Sub-1 starts now.

Finally got there. First with a 59.921 and then this lap. I'm done.

 

[kowalski__1]

1:00.303 .093 away, feels like i'm in a 15 round heavy weight title fight...

 

[Blayney]

Well guys - since many of us are in the same painful boat fighting with this one, how about some comic relief? Have a laugh at just a (very) small sample of the ways I've managed to crash at Road Atlanta in the Red Bull...



Oh and something else that just happened too...

 

[TumeK5]

Oh and something else that just happened too...

Well done for finally making it!

You are safe now - the gold streak continues

 

[Blayney]

Well done for finally making it!

You are safe now - the gold streak continues

Is it sad how relieved I am? Its a silver lining to a covid positive test on Monday... otherwise I'd be in work and unable to do the laps today !

 

[TumeK5]

Is it sad how relieved I am? Its a silver lining to a covid positive test on Monday... otherwise I'd be in work and unable to do the laps today !

Cutting it close then! Get well soon and rest now.

 

[Vule]

I'm done. No more, I don't care if somebody sets 49.9 tonight and I don't even get a bronze.

Optimal was 59.953 but optimal is impossible here.

I hope to never drive this car again.

Good night

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Did a 1:00.162 which is 2 miliseconds above my best...

With an all best sector time of 59.766... Which goes to show my crap consistency in pulling a lap together with this combo. I had a 20.9 in S1 at one point, only to crap on the chicane later... Or doing an average 21.4 in S1 and then nailing the chicane and/or the U turn.

Yeah, going to have to drop it here. I hope I never have to go through so much sessions with a TT. Over 2400km on this one.
Relying on RNG grass riding is the worst thing for me in these types of trials.

 

[AstroVex]

Woof - Finally! 1:00.163 for me.😃

I'm done with this, and I am not going back. What a painful experience it's been, for both my head and my fingers. It took over 5000km (and probably more) to achieve this time with a ds4.

I had great momentum tonight and I probably could improve a bit more, but just no... Not again. I'm now tired as hell and I just hope to wake up with that gold medal tomorrow morning. Only a few hours left, but the leaderboard's been moving, and it makes me nervous... Guess I'll sleep with my fingers crossed tonight😅

Massive thanks to everyone in here! You guys were my main source of motivation through this nightmare-ish TT.
See you tomorrow for a new one - 'Till then, Take care !😎 -AstroVex

--- "Grass Turismo" ---

 

[ColinNZ]

A huge congratulations to those who've managed to get anywhere gold on this one; y'all are way faster than I am.

I set myself the goal of silver for this TT and I think I may finally be safe now. I just posted a 1:01 flat.

Still have no idea where turn 3 is.

 

[Dodge Lamb]

Yeah there's no way there's a 58 on pad. LOL

First time driving this car and track but I tend to pick up things fairly quickly so I can say I wasn't too far off what my best effort could be. I think I would've done 59.5 if I didn't mess up the middle sector, but knowing it's there is good enough for me. Side note, you can't see anything through sector 1 in bumper cam, it's really frustrating actually lol