Toyota Supra (A90)

[CodeRedR51]

I 've always considered this as Supra's next generation.

I wonder why they didn't named it right.

And you would be wrong.

 

[JacoJa]

I 've always considered this as Supra's next generation.
I wonder why they didn't named it right.

It kinda makes sense why they didn't do that (One is an affordable sports car, the other is a hypercar for millionaires).

 

[giorgos21]

It kinda makes sense why they didn't do that (One is an affordable sports car, the other is a hypercar for millionaires).

I know but aside that ,check the looks only.
Wouldn't this be a Supra?

 

[JacoJa]

I know but aside that ,check the looks only.
Wouldn't this be a Supra?

I agree that the styling would be suited for a next-gen Supra. 👍

 

[RACECAR]

I 've always considered this as Supra's next generation.

The price kinda should've given you a hint that this was going to be nowhere near today's hypothetical "Supra" money.

 

[RocZX]

 

[a6m5]

............. She's beautiful, man.

 

[Badasp5.0]

It kinda makes sense why they didn't do that (One is an affordable sports car, the other is a hypercar for millionaires).

Supras were affordable?? IIRC they were $40K ish back in the '90s!

 

[Bram Turismo]

Seeing it in his garage with so many close-ups of all the details, the thing is looking spectacular! I didn't know what to think of it with the Gran Turismo release, but seeing it in person up that close... Man, what a thing of beauty!

 

[GTboyz]

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1093260_new-toyota-supra-to-share-platform-with-new-bmw-z4-report

 

[RocZX]

Rumored Info on the new Supra

Citing an inside source at Toyota, Japanese magazine Holiday Auto (viaMotoring) claims the new Supra will feature a complex hybrid system combining a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine sourced from BMW with a trio of electric motors. In similar fashion to Acura’s new NSX, the new Supra will feature an electric motor at each of the front wheels and a third electric motor integrated with the engine and transmission.

The setup was previewed in last year’s Yaris Hybrid-R concept and a beefier version is featured in Toyota’s TS040 Hybrid Le Mans prototype. Incredibly, the setup relies on a supercapacitor to store electrical energy and this is expected to feature in the new Supra. A charging port will allow owners to plug the car into an electrical outlet, making the new Supra a plug-in hybrid. Peak output of the system is expected to be more than 350 horsepower, which might not sound like much but you have to factor in that the target weight for the car is less than 3,086 pounds.

Despite a previous report claiming the BMW sports car will also get the technology, it’s now thought that the new Supra will be the only recipient. This makes sense in terms of vehicle differentiation: Toyota goes the all-wheel-drive, hybrid route for the new Supra, while BMW sticks with conventional powertrains (in-line four- and six-cylinder units) and rear-wheel drive for its Z4 replacement.

MotorAuthority

 

[GTboyz]

Bummer, i expected it to go againts the GTR.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Bummer, i expected it to go againts the GTR.

Well, it will be considerably lighter so it might still be a serious contender.

 

[Tunerguy21]

I would've expected them to take BMW's 3.0L straight six from the M3/M4 and tune it up a bit. IIRC, Yamaha either helped in development or tuned previous Toyota sixes; why not send it to them to bump up the power and just make it better overall? If you're gonna use a BMW engine that's currently in production, why not continue the tradition of straight sixes in their flagships when they have the perfect opportunity?

 

[05XR8]

I would've expected them to take BMW's 3.0L straight six from the M3/M4 and tune it up a bit. IIRC, Yamaha either helped in development or tuned previous Toyota sixes; why not send it to them to bump up the power and just make it better overall? If you're gonna use a BMW engine that's currently in production, why not continue the tradition of straight sixes in their flagships when they have the perfect opportunity?

If NISSAN are considering a straight six, then Toyota will. The Z car, Infiniti s and maybe the Maxima(could go AWD in the future, who knows) would need that straight six as well.

I'd like to see it but their race program have no straight six engines for development.

 

[Tunerguy21]

If NISSAN are considering a straight six, then Toyota will. The Z car, Infiniti s and maybe the Maxima(could go AWD in the future, who knows) would need that straight six as well.

I'd like to see it but their race program have no straight six engines for development.

I wouldn't expect a straight six from Nissan. Considering that there haven't been any straight six engines from Nissan for some time, and their higher performance engines are V6s, it wouldn't be cost effective for them to develop a completely new straight six for the GTR just for heritage's sake. Even the Z cars now have V6s (although they had them in the 90's with the VG30). Toyota, however, since they have the partnership with BMW, are in the perfect position to use a straight six in the next Supra, since BMW already has one. The only thing left for Toyota to do is to decide if and how they want to fiddle with it before slotting it in the Mk.V.

 

[05XR8]

I haven't followed Toyota/Lexus in a while. Are the current Lexus hybrids using BMW tech? Are they going to use the BMW engine as well?

 

[Nish]

@Tunerguy21 Nissan still made a I6 as of last year and it was very tune able, I don't know how easy it would be applied to a sports car though.

TB48DE was used in the Patrol
Here it is in a G35

 

[Tunerguy21]

@Tunerguy21 Nissan still made a I6 as of last year and it was very tune able, I don't know how easy it would be applied to a sports car though.

TB48DE was used in the Patrol.

Wasn't aware of this engine. I'd assume it'd be good for high hp applications, but might not have characteristics you want in a "budget supercar*" given the fact that it was made for the Patrol.


*Like the GTR

 

[Nish]

Honestly I wouldn't prefer a I6 in any supercar. I like the configuration but I don't see it being right for the typical supercar shape. Then again the Ford GT got away with the modular 5.4 from the F series. I just posted as I also thought Nissan I6s were dead a month ago so I figured I'd spread my new knowledge (which is probably common knowledge to most here).

OT - What's the weight difference of BMW's 2.0 I4 compared to their 3.0 I6? Maybe the 4 was selected for weight and/or packaging reasons.

 

[YSSMAN]

I haven't followed Toyota/Lexus in a while. Are the current Lexus hybrids using BMW tech? Are they going to use the BMW engine as well?

Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive systems are of their own design, although they did have some legal issues with Ford that ultimately resulted in them sharing some patents and designs, if I remember correctly. On the flip side, last I remember BMW had been in the Global Hybrid Cooperation which resulted in the development of the Two-Mode Hybrid System that GM was using on their full-size SUVs and trucks, and the same system saw duty on the X6 ActiveHybrid, as well as the Mercedes ML450 Hybrid. Obviously none of those vehicles are around anymore, and, I'm under the impression that the GHC has closed up shop, as well.

BMW has gone their own way with the i-series models, developing their own hybrid technology for the i3 and the i8.

 

[CodeRedR51]

If NISSAN are considering a straight six...

Don't count on it.

The Z car, Infiniti s and maybe the Maxima(could go AWD in the future, who knows) would need that straight six as well.

The new Max is based on the Altima platform --> FWD with no AWD option. Z car may go turbo I-4. Infiniti will keep using the VQ for a while, along with the turbo 2.0 I-4 they are getting from Mercedes. ( I wouldn't be surprised if this engine or a variation of ends up in the Z35)

 

[Bram Turismo]

This is now officially the most stunning car I have ever seen. I thought a car in terms of detail couldn't get any more perfect than the LF-A, but this is just yet another leap by Toyota yet to be matched. In red I had to get used to it, but in graphite it just couldn't look any better:

 

[Wolfe]

I still think it resembles a Toyo-TVR.

But like everything, it looks better when it isn't red. 👍

 

[Azure Flare]

I thought it looked alright before (mine on GT6 is white), but with a color change, it looks sexy as 🤬.

Can't wait to have this in GT6.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

This is now officially the most stunning car I have ever seen. I thought a car in terms of detail couldn't get any more perfect than the LF-A, but this is just yet another leap by Toyota yet to be matched. In red I had to get used to it, but in graphite it just couldn't look any better:

I really want this now, all of a sudden I've forgotten about all the other cars I cared about.

 

[YSSMAN]

Well, it looks more real than Toyota seems to like to do at this point. So, they've got that going. Still, no word on the powertrain. I understand that they're gauging interest, but c'mon Toyota, if you want to get people excited, you've gotta actually give us a little more than pictures.

 

[AudiMan2011]

New news. The BMW-Toyota sports car project will not go the way of the Toyobaru as the cars will not be directly rivalling each other:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/sports-car-partnership-spawn-new-toyota-supra

 

[RocZX]

Toyota trademarked S-FR, it could be the name of the new Supra.

Toyota has trademarked a new automobile title, hinting at a name for a future sports car.

Toyota S-FR has now been protected with the United States Patent and Trademark Office and will be used for “automobiles and structural parts thereof.”

Following the naming structure introduced for FR-S, which stands for front-engine, rear-wheel drive sports car, the new name may stand for sports front-engined rear-wheel drive. We’re hoping that the ‘S’ stands for ‘super,’ which would make it a super front-engined rear-wheel drive car

Autoguide.com

 

[CSMDuty11]

We're hoping that the 'S' stands for 'super,' which would make it a super front-engined rear-wheel drive car

Nah, i feel it stands for....

...Supra... ..Fast.. ..Racecar?

And besides, isn't the FRS name used exclusively in the US?
Now, i shall wait for the Subaru version of the Supra.