Transferring credits from Sport to GT7?

[philipPF]

Why? If you bought the cars for GT Sport how is it "fair" (or indeed "honest") to give you them for free in GT7?

You got what you paid for. Why is there any expectation you should get more than what you paid for?

Indeed the right words should be "nice to have" more than "fair".

But considering there will be no update to the car model between the two game versions (maybe this is wrong ?), if you already paid real money for it (10€ for the 10M credits cars for example is far from a "cheap price" for a single car), it would be "nice" to have access to these cars in the next version without paying again 10€ for the same model.

(Personnaly I don't expect anything as I didn't used real money for cars, at least, not that I remember )

 

[Famine]

The transfer (as in previous GT games) is never mandatory.

There's only been one previous GT game where any kind of "transfer" was applicable, and they weren't actually transfers (though were labelled as such).

In GT4 you could get 100,000cr if you had a GT3 save game on the memory card. You could also get your first set of licences completed if you had a GT4 Prologue save game on the memory card.

It didn't transfer any cars, progress, or money. In fact it was much more like a loyalty bonus - if you'd played GT3 or GT4P, or both, you got a little bonus to start GT4.


There has never been a transfer of cars, progress, or money in any previous GT game, ever.

 

[F30clubman]

There has never been a possibility neither to buy cars with real money, so it can be the first time too, and it would be just fair, as all car models from GTS are transferred to GT7.

As said, in the past it was not mandatory. Everybody would be able to do whatever he wants, including paying for every car in GT Sport AND again in GT7, as preferred.
That includes you offcourse ... (why do you write a complete post in bold btw?).

Anyhow, as long as there is no confirmation of a sort of transfer, I will offcourse not spend any more money to cars for GTS in the Playstation Store .

 

[Famine]

As said, in the past it was not mandatory.

It was also not possible. Which is the point.

it would be just fair, as all car models from GTS are transferred to GT7

Firstly, we don't know that for sure at this point in time - though it looks likely given what cars have been revealed.

More importantly, you paid to get the cars in GT Sport. That's what you got (well, actually you got a licence to get the car). Why is it "fair" to expect that you should also get the cars in GT7 on top of that despite that never being an advertised part of the product you paid for?

It's not, for reference. It's certainly possible - PD could extend the licences you paid for so that they apply to GT7 - but that would be generous on their part.

What's "fair" is that you got the product you paid for, as advertised, and GT7 wasn't part of that.

 

[twitcher]

This thread is so telling of how childish this community can be.

If you enjoy the credit grind, if you want to start GT7 from scratch, that’s fine, you do you.

Not everyone wants that experience, some of us would like the OPTION to transfer content from GT Sport.

For those of us who focus on online play, the credit grind is trash, we’re not interested, and it ruins the game for us.

 

[F30clubman]

This thread is so telling of how childish this community can be.

Exactly :-)

That aspect apparently still has not changed since the days of GT2.

 

[Famine]

This thread is so telling of how childish this community can be.

If you enjoy the credit grind, if you want to start GT7 from scratch, that’s fine, you do you.

Not everyone wants that experience, some of us would like the OPTION to transfer content from GT Sport.

Which is fine, but not part of anything I said.


We simply don't know if there's any kind of transfer capability, and the point of this thread was someone asking whether there was or not. We don't know.

There never has been before - as noted, GT4's "transfer" from GT3 and GT4P was simply a loyalty bonus that game progress had no bearing on and which transferred no progress or content - and there's no reason to suppose that there will be this time...

... especially since Kazunori Yamauchi's comments strongly hint otherwise.

 

[gigio79]

So, I've been a little hesitant to spend my hard earned cash in Sport since I thought of this. I haven't seen any info on this anywhere, it may be a wait and see sorta thing. One of my issues with Sport has always been the grind to make money. It is, to me, the most difficult GT to make cash. I'm well on my way to another 20 million dollar car, but then I started thinking 'maybe we will be able to transfer some or all of our credits'.

Wondering if A) anyone has heard anything and B) what your opinion is on this. I'm hoping, like past GTs, we can.

I dont'think so. You would have an advantage over the other players.

 

[F30clubman]

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I doubt that ...

 

[Famine]

I doubt that ...

I mean, it's literally a screenshot from my notifications and you can see it in yourself the bottom-right corner of the post he reacted to, so I'm not sure why.

Weird first day on here to pick fights with the site's admin and suggest he's lying...

 

[AlexWilmot]

I wish I could transfer cars from GTA V to Assetto Corsa, I mean I paid for the game content right!

 

[twitcher]

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Which is fine, but not part of anything I said.


We simply don't know if there's any kind of transfer capability, and the point of this thread was someone asking whether there was or not. We don't know.

There never has been before - as noted, GT4's "transfer" from GT3 and GT4P was simply a loyalty bonus that game progress had no bearing on and which transferred no progress or content - and there's no reason to suppose that there will be this time...

... especially since Kazunori Yamauchi's comments strongly hint otherwise.

Slight misunderstanding here.

I was poo-pooing your comment about not being able to transfer cars that people payed real money for. I understand the argument that “it’s a new game, you bought the car for use in GT Sport”, but IMO that’s a hollow argument that would be generated by a suit in the PR department. If someone payed real money for a car in GT Sport, they should be able to transfer that car to GT7. It’s absolutely toxic game design to expect people to pay real money again for the exact same car they already payed real money for.

In regards to my comment about this thread demonstrating childishness, that’s with respect to people thinking that everyone should start the GT7 grind from scratch, because somehow me having credits from GTS ruins their single player experience.

My childish comment was in no way directed at you.

 

[F30clubman]

Thanks Twitcher!

 

[Famine]

Not lying, just wrong.

How am I supposed to be wrong? That screenshot literally happened and you can see it for yourself very easily in the link I provided you. Doubting it is literally doubting your own eyes.

Incredible.

Apparently people are not allowed to have different viewpoints here? Posts in bold are the one and only thruth ...

Where have you dredged this idea from?

I won't be wasting more time here. You can delete my account

No, I can't. Nor would I waste my time doing anything for someone calling me a liar despite the evidence they can see for themselves.

I understand the argument that “it’s a new game, you bought the car for use in GT Sport”, but IMO that’s a hollow argument that would be generated by a suit in the PR department. If someone payed real money for a car in GT Sport, they should be able to transfer that car to GT7. It’s absolutely toxic game design to expect people to pay real money again for the exact same car they already payed real money for.

Nonetheless, what people paid for is (the licence to buy in-game) a car for GT Sport, and that's what they got. GT7 isn't mentioned anywhere in the product description. In addition, we have no evidence that any kind of transfer of content or progress from GTS to GT7 will be available at all.

I think you'll agree, because there's no basis on which to disagree, that no part of that is opinion at all.


Given all of that, I can't see why there should be any expectation at all that (the licence for) the car will extend into GT7. People are of course free to hope otherwise, but to expect it and to call it "fair" (to get more product than you paid for) is a stretch.

 

[ProjectF]

Slight misunderstanding here.

I was poo-pooing your comment about not being able to transfer cars that people payed real money for. I understand the argument that “it’s a new game, you bought the car for use in GT Sport”, but IMO that’s a hollow argument that would be generated by a suit in the PR department. If someone payed real money for a car in GT Sport, they should be able to transfer that car to GT7. It’s absolutely toxic game design to expect people to pay real money again for the exact same car they already payed real money for.

In regards to my comment about this thread demonstrating childishness, that’s with respect to people thinking that everyone should start the GT7 grind from scratch, because somehow me having credits from GTS ruins their single player experience.

My childish comment was in no way directed at you.

The DLC purchased in game A can only be used in game A, how can you expect it to be used in another completely different game B? these cars are also available to you in the progress of the game, no one forces you to buy them with real money.



Besides, I remember that there are many series title that sell the same content of "CAR PASS" or something in every new game.

 

[F30clubman]

Strange how people here do not want to award any advantage to another person, even if this advantage could be good for them also, and even if they would retain full choice whether to use it or not.

Nothing has changed on this board in the last 17 years.

Fortunately I witness much more sportsmanship in the GT online races.

 

[Famine]

Strange how people here do not want to award any advantage to another person, even if this advantage could be good for them also, and even if they would retain full choice whether to use it or not.

Who are you addressing with this?

There's two posts in this thread - the only one in which you have participated - saying a transfer shouldn't be allowed:

Please, I hope it´s not allowed.

Agreed. I feel like it'd really kill the spirit of the game's design if you could transfer much from GTS to GT7, whether it's credits or cars in themselves. That said, I'd be down with a much smaller bonus for if you simply have a GTS game save, like a little more extra starting credits.

That's it. Everyone else is saying there's no ability to do a "transfer" (which is inaccurate) or that there's no evidence of it (which is the reality of it).


And you're saying "people here" don't want it and pointing fingers at the site as a whole for... two people's opinions.

Nothing has changed on this board in the last 17 years.

Heh, figures.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

Some of the mental gymnastics at work in this thread from some people are incredible, so I'll reiterate my previous point in a way that's easier for some people to digest:

When you buy a new car in the real world, say for example an Audi A3, do you get carry over your insurance, tax and MOT + other parts from your old car that was a VW Golf just because they both use the VAG MQB platform? No.

So why on earth would you expect it to be the same with a video game series where one game (GT Sport) is effectively a non-linear/non-cannon instalment and the other game (GT7) is a linear/cannon instalment in that series?

That's like expecting all of your unlocks, DLC and non-cannon characters from Tekken Tag 2 to be carried over into Tekken 7, then complaining that you're not able to use Combot, Slim Bob, Ogre and Jinpachi.

 

[twitcher]

Some of the mental gymnastics at work in this thread from some people are incredible, so I'll reiterate my previous point in a way that's easier for some people to digest:

When you buy a new car in the real world, say for example an Audi A3, do you get carry over your insurance, tax and MOT + other parts from your old car that was a VW Golf just because they both use the VAG MQB platform? No.

So why on earth would you expect it to be the same with a video game series where one game (GT Sport) is effectively a non-linear/non-cannon instalment and the other game (GT7) is a linear/cannon instalment in that series?

That's like expecting all of your unlocks, DLC and non-cannon characters from Tekken Tag 2 to be carried over into Tekken 7, then complaining that you're not able to use Combot, Slim Bob, Ogre and Jinpachi.

it’s not mental gymnastic. Tekkan 2 is a completely different game than tekkan 7.

From GT5, to GT6, to Sport, to GT7, theyre the same damn game. Same cars, same tracks, same everything. There is zero reason to force every player to start the game from scratch, especially if people have payed real money for car.

Any justification for forcing everyone to start over is garbage PR speak from a bean counter. It’s toxic game design, period.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

it’s not mental gymnastic. Tekkan 2 is a completely different game than tekkan 7.

From GT5, to GT6, to Sport, to GT7, theyre the same damn game. Same cars, same tracks, same everything. There is zero reason to force every player to start the game from scratch, especially if people have payed real money for car.

Any justification for forcing everyone to start over is garbage PR speak from a bean counter. It’s toxic game design, period.

Tekken TAG* 2... It's a non-linear/cannon sequel in that series just like GT Sport is in Gran Turismo.

And if the game design is that toxic to you, then stop buying sequels? They all do the same thing.

 

[05XR8]

Forget cars, it’s fair if we get GT7 for free! I mean, it’s practically the same game. If I bought GTS with real money, that money should transfer over to GT7. Naturally.

 

[twitcher]

Forget cars, it’s fair if we get GT7 for free! I mean, it’s practically the same game. If I bought GTS with real money, that money should transfer over to GT7. Naturally.

if you renew your membership at the same golf club you’ve always been a member of, would you expect to rebuy all new golf clubs, just because you renewed your membership?

 

[ImaRobot]

if you renew your membership at the same golf club you’ve always been a member of, would you expect to rebuy all new golf clubs, just because you renewed your membership?

If you bought a cheeseburger, do you expect to have to buy a cheeseburger again every time you want a cheeseburger, or do you expect it to be free the next time?

 

[AlexWilmot]

if you renew your membership at the same golf club you’ve always been a member of, would you expect to rebuy all new golf clubs, just because you renewed your membership?

Well in that case I should be buying a new console every time I buy a game

 

[twitcher]

Perfect example of the childish attitude of this forum.

How does me transferring data to the new game impact your ability to enjoy the game.

Enjoy the game how you want, encourage PD to make design decisions that allow others to enjoy the game they want to.

 

[ImaRobot]

Perfect example of the childish attitude of this forum.

How does me transferring data to the new game impact your ability to enjoy the game.

Enjoy the game how you want, encourage PD to make design decisions that allow others to enjoy the game they want to.

Wait, you got a question back at you that you just asked someone else, yet everyone else is childish? After putting Poo emojis on posts as well? What a massive projection .

Bye 👋.

 

[Famine]

How does me transferring data to the new game impact your ability to enjoy the game.

Nobody has said that it does or argued that point in any way, and it doesn't help to pretend that they have and attack them for it.


Edit: Huh. Interestingly I've just been in a game preview presser for a different series (which I can't say because there's an embargo) and someone asked if there was any content/progress carryover or rewards for players of previous games. The answer was a straight, flat "no".

 

[AlexWilmot]

Perfect example of the childish attitude of this forum.

How does me transferring data to the new game impact your ability to enjoy the game.

Enjoy the game how you want, encourage PD to make design decisions that allow others to enjoy the game they want to.

Childish because your arguments are ridiculous?

Why should content earned from one game be moved over to a new game? I’m struggling to understand this entitled nonsense

 

[twitcher]

Nobody has said that it does or argued that point in any way, and it doesn't help to pretend that they have and attack them for it.


Edit: Huh. Interestingly I've just been in a game preview presser for a different series (which I can't say because there's an embargo) and someone asked if there was any content/progress carryover or rewards for players of previous games. The answer was a straight, flat "no".

Oh come on. Don’t act like we don’t have this same convo every time a new GT game comes out, and it’s the same group of people defending PD’s design choices based on wanting everyone to start from scratch, because it somehow creates an this quasi feeling of “working” and “accomplishment” to grind credits for the exact same car we had in the previous game. I know you know exactly what I’m referring to, and it’s frustrating because you will call out the hypocrisy of those people on this forum, but you won’t carry that same sentiment to holding PD accountable for making better design decisions.

Childish because your arguments are ridiculous?

Why should content earned from one game be moved over to a new game? I’m struggling to understand this entitled nonsense

Because it hinders an aspect of the online community.

Online racing will have to grind to a near standstill while we wait for the player base to grind credits to unlock the same race cars we’ve been using for the last 5 years.

The vintage Le Mans cars being locked behind 20mil credits means that for the entire GTS lifespan, we have never reached a point where enough people have these cars to be able to have full lobbies of historic Le Mans cars. We’re going to be forced to start that grind all over again, which means we will probably never see full lobbies of vintage Le Mans cars.

In addition, if nothing will transfer, it complete kills all motivation to continue to try to unlock these cars in GTS.

People continue to only think about the way they play the game themselves, without giving a single ounce of consideration to how others might approach the game.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Oh come on. Don’t act like we don’t have this same convo every time a new GT game comes out, and it’s the same group of people defending PD’s design choices based on wanting everyone to start from scratch, because it somehow creates an this quasi feeling of “working” and “accomplishment” to grind credits for the exact same car we had in the previous game. I know you know exactly what I’m referring to, and it’s frustrating because you will call out the hypocrisy of those people on this forum, but you won’t carry that same sentiment to holding PD accountable for making better design decisions.


Because it hinders an aspect of the online community.

Online racing will have to grind to a near standstill while we wait for the player base to grind credits to unlock the same race cars we’ve been using for the last 5 years.

The vintage Le Mans cars being locked behind 20mil credits means that for the entire GTS lifespan, we have never reached a point where enough people have these cars to be able to have full lobbies of historic Le Mans cars. We’re going to be forced to start that grind all over again, which means we will probably never see full lobbies of vintage Le Mans cars.

In addition, if nothing will transfer, it complete kills all motivation to continue to try to unlock these cars in GTS.

People continue to only think about the way they play the game themselves, without giving a single ounce of consideration to how others might approach the game.

Yup high level of entitlement confirmed…

It’s the games system to race to earn credits to buy desirable cars, it not going to be given to you,

New game, new career/start from scratch