Tuner Challenge Championship ~ April McLaren MP4

[Adrenaline]

Details have been forwarded over

 

[Temetias.]

And that's what we get for tuning a car you don't like to tune and don't know how to tune. If you also add a deadline to it you get a tune which is absolute joke. That's exactly what happened to me. So yes, I'm tune 10.

I never have liked 4wd's and what I basicly have done is a subaru which I tried to somehow convert into a rwd. Well, as you can see it wasn't a brilliant idea.

 

[budious]

Updated.
We won't be using Nurburg at anytime, because I feel driver inconsistency will far outweigh tuner ability.

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As for #9, your times seem to be rather consistent (in relation) amung all drivers so far. The large jump in margin you noticed, was actually an issue with the current leader #7 having an oddly low(faster) lap avg, rather than you having an oddly high one, for a specific driver.

Probably true on both notes. On a side note, don't use Indy or Daytona either or we'll get drivers auto A-spec grinding our tunes

 

[Basilea]

What about the oil change? Get one every before every single tune? Would be the best as the car is in the same condition for every tune. Engine overhaul and chassis thingy is a bit too expensive, though.

 

[BlueShift]

Who is tune #7 / #6 ? RKM's ? And #3 ?

 

[pHLo]

What about the oil change? Get one every before every single tune? Would be the best as the car is in the same condition for every tune. Engine overhaul and chassis thingy is a bit too expensive, though.

an oil change after 2 sets was enough for me as HP didn't drop after i was finished with the second tune

 

[budious]

What about the oil change? Get one every before every single tune? Would be the best as the car is in the same condition for every tune. Engine overhaul and chassis thingy is a bit too expensive, though.

You don't need the rigidity restore if you use the chassis reinforcement, it's an either or type choice. Doing both rarely presents any added benefit, and doing only one, the rigidity restore losses its 100% status very quickly, whereas the chassis reinforcement adds an extra degree of permanent rigidity. I almost always end up installing chassis reinforcement on my tunes now and don't bother spending any money on rigidity restorations.

You could also look at rigidity restore as a test for handling quality if you install chassis reinforcement. You might get a decent 10 minutes of driving after rigidity restore when the car is near its 100% factory rigidity before it starts to gradually wear off again, if you like the way it drives during this time then apply the chassis reinforcement to make it permanent.

 

[mytton]

And that's what we get for tuning a car you don't like to tune and don't know how to tune. If you also add a deadline to it you get a tune which is absolute joke. That's exactly what happened to me. So yes, I'm tune 10.

I never have liked 4wd's and what I basicly have done is a subaru which I tried to somehow convert into a rwd. Well, as you can see it wasn't a brilliant idea.

Classic excuses

 

[Adrenaline]

Any reason I shouldn't use the 'Super GT - GT500' list of cars for next months battle?
This is a class I see gaining popularity in the online world. The HP range and great handling cars, combined with a technical track make for some very competitive rooms. The stock set ups are rather good, but the difference between winning and losing can very well be the difference in the suspension. Anyone opposed to this?

The list would be as follows:


GT500
P Honda ARTA NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Honda EPSON NSX (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Honda RAYBRIG NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Honda TAKATA DOME NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Lexus ENEOS SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Lexus PETRONAS TOM’S SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra (SUPER GT) ‘05

As found in the link provided on the last page. I'd create a poll probably tomorrow, to allow 1 full week of voting, since February is a short month. Let me know what you think. I'd probably eliminate a few of the same cars, so that there isn't 4 NSX's and 5 GTR's competing against each other.

 

[budious]

That list of premiums then should include the RE Amemiya and Autobacs Arta, GT 300 cars but within weight and power upgrades put them at GT 500 performance levels. Probably a few more, Weedsports, Cuscu Impreza... etc.

Really I think all the NSX, Lexus, GT-R cars of the same year model are exactly the same spec in game, just with a different body livery kit so listing all of them is redundant and only splits the vote. You could just bunch those all into a single option for the vote.

 

[pHLo]

well, i guess the only thing one could say against it is that we would have Japanese Cars backt-to-back...
personally, i'd be fine with your choice tho, i only hope that people won't vote for maxing those cars out, as they should be left with stock power

another thing that i just realized:
we won't have as much of a problem with standard cars or very expensive cars as we thought. The update introduced a new borrowing/lending system so the tuners and drivers could share their cars with each other easily

Really I think all the NSX, Lexus, GT-R cars of the same year model are exactly the same spec in game, just with a different body livery kit so listing all of them is redundant and only splits the vote. You could just bunch those all into a single option for the vote.

i guess Adrenaline should explain in a note that all votes for a specific model (NSX, Lexus, etc.) will be added up and the build (ARTA, EPSON, etc.) with the most votes will be the one that's going to be tuned

 

[docholiday720]

well, i guess the only thing one could say against it is that we would have Japanese Cars back-to-back...

This is the problem I can see with using Super GT cars. Remember people where wondering why only Japanese cars last vote and some wondered where the European cars were at. Maybe for March we could run a European Hot Hatch challenge and in April run Super GT cars. Personally I would love to drive some Super GT cars just playing devil's advocate.

As far as narrowing the list I would throw out all of the older models for the NSX and SC430 and those models that have the same sponser for the GT-R. This would narrow it down to 1 NSX, 3 SC430, 4 GT-R, 1 Z, and 1 Supra. From here I would narrow down the SC430 and GT-R so that the vote would be between one of each model. Not sure how to narrow down to just one model but think it would be easier for the vote.

Also if running Super GT cars then either Suzuka or Fuji needs to be the test track.

doc

 

[Adrenaline]

Stop skimming my posts... All 3 of you!

I'd probably eliminate a few of the same cars, so that there isn't 4 NSX's and 5 GTR's competing against each other.

 

[BlueShift]

GT500
P Honda ARTA NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Honda EPSON NSX (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Honda RAYBRIG NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Honda TAKATA DOME NSX (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Lexus ENEOS SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Lexus PETRONAS TOM’S SC430 (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z (SUPER GT) ‘06
P Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R (SUPER GT) ‘08
P Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra (SUPER GT) ‘05

I'd vote for any JGTC NSX. Why ? Because it's a NSX. I was planning to tune a Takata...

What about this : we tune our car but the tranny/LSD/transmission parts, then you announce the track, then we tune the tranny/LSD/transmission parts and there we go (why the LSD, because the initial depends of the final gear).

 

[Adrenaline]

Unless some compelling arguments pop up before the end of the day, I'll go ahead with the JGTC poll. I did some research through the new car dealers, and think I've created 5 solid categories for the next few months, but we'll see.

 

[Paulie]

If we end up with GT300 cars in the vote they should still be left stock, as there is a market for GT300 racing, I've experienced it personally- even though the Arta Garaiya kills the IS350.

 

[Basilea]

This is the problem I can see with using Super GT cars. Remember people where wondering why only Japanese cars last vote and some wondered where the European cars were at. Maybe for March we could run a European Hot Hatch challenge and in April run Super GT cars. Personally I would love to drive some Super GT cars just playing devil's advocate.

That's what I would have said, as now we had 4WD and all cars have to be premiums... but I'm fine with what ever it's gonna be.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Updated, tune 11 jumps up 1 spot.

If we stay at 1 round, and want to avoid track specific tunes, we could keep the track 'unknown' to the tuners until tunes have been submitted. I'm not sure how I feel about the idea, but it would force them to create an all around tune. Not sure...

I can make an all around tune that will work on all tracks except for Nurburgh Ring - long course. If you pick Nurburgh Ring, my suspension settings would need to be a bit different.

 

[Basilea]

I don't know but I think it's good to tune a car track specific. That is normal in racing!

 

[Adrenaline]

March's Poll is now open: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=184046

 

[Basilea]

Times submitted. Some coments on each tune maybe later.

 

[Adrenaline]

Updated
3 days left
Few spots are still up for grabs

 

[Paulie]

Are the average laps really in the 1'29s?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Are the average laps really in the 1'29s?

Not entirely surprising; my average laps with the tunes other than my own that I tried were in the mid-1:28 range, mine was low-to-mid 1:27s excepting throwaway laps.

 

[articzap]

Are the average laps really in the 1'29s?

This system takes into account the variances of the level of drivers. 👍

 

[NTwo]

Hi.
I'm just curious, would it be possible for me to join the competition next month? I'd be joining as an independent. I don't have much tuning experience, but someone (cough) said that I should enter to get better at tuning.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Hi.
I'm just curious, would it be possible for me to join the competition next month? I'd be joining as an independent. I don't have much tuning experience, but someone (cough) said that I should enter to get better at tuning.

That someone would be me.

I'd be curious to see how he does, those which I've driven of his have generally been fairly close to where they needed to be, he just needs motivation to actually work on stuff.

 

[Adrenaline]

Absolutely. Shoot me an email to GTPlanet.tgb@gmail.com with your user id & tuning garage and I'll add you to the contact list.

For those following along, we also seem to be short on drivers, despite the mass amount we had signed up, we only have 8 with times submitted thus far, although I expect at least one more... /glare Thunderstruck.

 

[NTwo]

Absolutely. Shoot me an email to GTPlanet.tgb@gmail.com with your user id & tuning garage and I'll add you to the contact list.

For those following along, we also seem to be short on drivers, despite the mass amount we had signed up, we only have 8 with times submitted thus far, although I expect at least one more... /glare Thunderstruck.

Alright, I sent an Email.
Hopefully everything there was what you needed.

 

[Basilea]

So in the end there are more tunes than drivers? Didn't expect it that way... What about the tuners themself? Aren't they driving? Or would it be "unfair"? I think we should all be old enough to drive the same on every tune...