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Turn Microtransactions into Donation money for Instituto Ayrton Senna!
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vasiliflame
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I'd pay to have senna removed from the game, over rated driver does my head in he is idolised when there has been hundreds of better drivers ..... Rather Tom pryce niki lauda or jackie Stewart
Jawehawk
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Did you miss the point where I said that good game deisgn doesn't involve grinding?
You'd think someone with a family would have better things to spend money on than fictional currency.
Buttom line is that people who are paying for these "micro-transactions" aren't part of the solution, they're part of the problem. It's just like day-one DLC. The key is for everyone to not buy it, so as to tell devs/puplishers that this won't do. There's no excuses for charging money for content that is already in the game. As long as companies get money from it, they'll have no reason not to do it, as they're seldom guided by what's morally right. Money talks. And in cases of micro-transactions, so does stupidity. Observe the larger picture please.
BTW, I'm not trying to offend you in any way Azure, just saying what is.
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- GolimLongshanks
This loser hasn't even got the game!
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- Wardez
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- race_emhard
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Nice idea. Although I'd much rather see PD change the in-game economy to a far more - for a lack of a better word - meaningful one and then perhaps add a donate button (that goes straight to the Ayrton Senna Institute, no middlemen).
The moment he said ''homeless [...] unemployed bum'', I've heard enough to know that this poor sod has not got a single clue.
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I watched about 30 seconds, so tell me if I missed something. I don't think this argument works about. Time vs convenience completely sidesteps the fact that credits have a 100% artificial value and nothing more. They can only sell them to you by forcing you to need credits to get things in the game. There is absolutely no reason why GT6 could not have shipped with all cars available at the beginning which would have been much better.
Trying to get people to pay for something twice is simply ridiculous. DLC has value because it takes work on PD's part to create the DLC. Paying to unlock in game content is simply a legal crime.
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All I am say about mentioning DLC, is the fact for a MT to even occur, I need to be spending my money for something in return. That's what I'm getting with DLC. If one thinks I'm referencing towards a senna DLC, or 7x10^6 credits, I don't really care... I am however, hoping (because I am pro-whateverthisis) that some of the profits from the Senna DLC will go to the organization. That's all I'm going to mention about DLC.
I have no problem with someone returning with remarks about a post, that's a reply. I find nothing wrong with someone using my words to prove a point. But when it comes to stoping the sentence short, that's where it becomes hazy and is not true.
I apologize if I violated the AUP or it's correct abbreviation in anyway. I was tired of it left off with a bad foot. But I am entitled to my own opinion. The OP asked how it would work and I gave my two cents. Nothing more, or less.
It also occurs to me that I have taken the yellow-brick road and others along with that, and others have taken the red-bricked road and others with that choice as well (note I don't mean to involve the consequences at the end.. Just used as a metaphor). The whole point is to make it easier to donate to the organization and I would gladly help.
This idea is no different than a donation campaign at a school. Are you more likely to skip class to run to the office to donate, or would you be more willing to donate to those walking around at a lunch table? Same thing about the Salvation Army.. Would you give through a money order or donate in the front of stores you're about to go in. That is simply how the OP asks is that what you would do? I see it as a great idea to turn the profit from them (the MT's) into a portion of donations as well. It is just making it easier for the process to occur..
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No, because micro transactions will be the death of GT6. Never mind the outrageous costs, the real killer is that they distort gameplay in order to encourage players to invest more money in the game.
As I've said elsewhere, I have no objection to paying for additional content in the form of DLC but I strongly object to idea of paying twice for something!
Whilst the Instituto Ayrton Senna may well be a worthy cause there are many others around the world that are at least equally deserving so I find the idea of singling out any one charity a bit unsettling.
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If the micro-transaction model is "bad" and I would guess most people feel it's dramatically overpriced, turning it into a donation doesn't make it any less bad. Not only that, if most people feel it is bad, then it'll bring a negative connotation with it to the whole idea of donating to the Institute. You don't tie one good idea to a bad one, that makes no business sense at all.
If you want to donate, donate. Maybe PS could set something up to donate via PSN money cards, maybe some Senna DLC can have a percentage go to the Institute (Clearly spelled out mind you), whatever, there are many ways to do it. But tying it to a nearly universally hated concept is the wrong way to go about it.
If you want to donate, donate. Maybe PS could set something up to donate via PSN money cards, maybe some Senna DLC can have a percentage go to the Institute (Clearly spelled out mind you), whatever, there are many ways to do it. But tying it to a nearly universally hated concept is the wrong way to go about it.
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Since PD is already working with the organization, why not? Yes there are thousands of nonprofit charity organizations, but this is something that anyone with GT, an internet connection, and money online can do to help.
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Because micro transactions are a bad idea! They're bad for GT (they distort gameplay), they're bad for players (oh look I've just spent £60 on a game, now they want me to fork out again for cars I've already bought!) and finally I don't like the idea of linking charitable donations to the money-grabbing scheme that micro transactions are! it's like drug-dealers supporting the local church - the ends do not justify the means.
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I'll ask a question and see how it goes..
If there was a senna DLC would you buy it..
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- GolimLongshanks
If by DLC you mean a special Ayrton Senna car and/or helmet & suit and/or race track and/or a set of challenges with reward at the end then the answer is very probably yes.
I've said before that I have no problem with paying money for additional content and I bought every DLC pack going for GT5 but...
I will not stand for micro transactions as I believe wholeheartedly that they will be the death knell for GT and gaming in general as the business model to encourage purchases requires skewing of game design and progress to encourage players to spend more and get less.
I've said before that I have no problem with paying money for additional content and I bought every DLC pack going for GT5 but...
I will not stand for micro transactions as I believe wholeheartedly that they will be the death knell for GT and gaming in general as the business model to encourage purchases requires skewing of game design and progress to encourage players to spend more and get less.
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Okay.. so now I am beginning to see the generalization of negativity of the micro-transactions. Rather than disliking for simply the fact they are present in a game, some believe that it affects how one progresses. I guess I also apoligize to @fm_1013 for the slightly un-clear responses as with regards to that.
However, I still think that profits from various puchases can still go to this organization or any other that PD works with and Ohh my God the Steelers just got their third touchdown!!! Anyways, I dont think that it should be looked down upon by doing such. It may or may not bring down a game, but there is no way that it would destroy an entire market consisting of 100+million, almost a half billion maybe, consumers who would just drop everything...
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I have nothing more to add to the discussion besides my total support for the posts I've just quoted.
Microtransactions money going to the Instituto Ayrton Senna? No. No microtransactions at all please.
Money going to the Instituto Ayrton Senna? Sure! Make PD roll out some DLC with Interlagos, Senna's kart and some Senna events in the Special Event's section and I'll gladly give you my hard-earned money.
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OK, that's cleared up then
I'm afraid that I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.
I think that the idea of linking micro transactions to any charity is still I do believe that if people don't make a stand on micro transactions then serious gaming - where games are lovingly and intricately crafted by developers who care about their creations to give the players a sense of satisfaction/gratification with the whole experience - are doomed. The business model will no longer support such games when the build it cheap sell it high philosophy is allowed to run rampant.
These opinions are, of course, my own and you can probably tell that I'm pretty firm in them. To recap, I'll happily reward quality but I've no intention of supporting greed.
I don't really think I have much more to say on this subject that hasn't already been said. So good luck with persuading Sony/PD to give away their ill-gotten games and I'll see you at the next race.
