TURTLE RACING LEAGUE - FLEX Racing Series - ACCEPTING MEMBERS!

[Fordracing99]

I will be there or I will be square

 

[Psycho Turtle]

I will be hosting practice tonight at 9:30 PM EST in Turtle Town after F1 practice. We will be driving 2010 or 2011 Nascars your choice.

Track: Daytona International Speedway
Tires: Open
Damage: Heavy
Penalties: Off

See you on the track.

I'll be there shredTec, thanks!

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

I should be there as well, unless my wife goes into B mode.

 

[Choate51]

This is the one race I wish we could alter the setups

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Woot! I'll be here!

 

[Ph1sh]

In the Daytona 500, if you damage a driver or crash somebody do you have to wait up for them as they go through the pits or just go on and leave them behind?

 

[Fordracing99]

In the Daytona 500, if you damage a driver or crash somebody do you have to wait up for them as they go through the pits or just go on and leave them behind?

Sorry bout that Note to me don't try to pass in the grass it won't work.

 

[martin_ky]

In the Daytona 500, if you damage a driver or crash somebody do you have to wait up for them as they go through the pits or just go on and leave them behind?

Use your best judgement. Things can happen very quickly here and you need to decide if you were at fault or not. If I'm on the fence whether I was at fault or not I would follow the guy into the pits and penalize myself. Better safe than sorry. If I know it was my mistake I will apologize and follow them in. If I know 100% that I did not cause the crash I'm going on my merry way. Many times neither/both drivers can be at fault. Side by side with poor visibility, one guy drifts a little high while the other drifts a little low. It happens. If your at the rear quarter panel of someone who drifts down and you spin him he may think you caused it. You may have held your line and the replay will show that, don't over-react, you may find out in the replay that it was not the other guys fault at all. Full damage will make this a very fun, but challenging race. If your not comfortable being in a pack at 200+ m.p.h. in a corner try to give yourself a little room. Hold your line and let the other guy make the move. If there is a pile up and your involved, thats racing and happens in NASCAR, remain calm and remember there's alot of race. Incidents will generally happen in the first 10 laps when everyone is close together, after that most settle down and get into a rythme. For those who haven't done a NASCAR oval race be prepaired for some bump drafting. Most people will bump draft the straights and back off before the corners as not to cause an accident. There are a few that will bump draft the entire track, and alot of that has to do with having raced with the other driver and knowing who can handle what. I'm just looking to have fun this race and not to get damage.

 

[MBOBB1969]

Thats a good write up and even better advice. Its a long race even if you are in last place, with the draft you could be first in 1 lap, so you have to keep that in mind. Mostly just be patient.

 

[NjLowrider]

And remember.... The car is heavy....

 

[Choate51]

I HIGHLY recommend using the magnified map as a 2nd mirror. For all of my NASCAR races I use it on the highest setting so I can see all around my car without needing to look in the mirror.

I can bump draft all the way around or be bumped all the way around. But I will say that there are some combos and driving styles where it wont work. You can typically find that out quickly when you go and tap someone and they are moving around a bit too much.

Pit strategy will be important as well, also if there is a 3 second or so gap between cars it faster to actually slow down and catch another pack and work together.

 

[Ph1sh]

Use your best judgement. Things can happen very quickly here and you need to decide if you were at fault or not. If I'm on the fence whether I was at fault or not I would follow the guy into the pits and penalize myself. Better safe than sorry. If I know it was my mistake I will apologize and follow them in. If I know 100% that I did not cause the crash I'm going on my merry way. Many times neither/both drivers can be at fault. Side by side with poor visibility, one guy drifts a little high while the other drifts a little low. It happens. If your at the rear quarter panel of someone who drifts down and you spin him he may think you caused it. You may have held your line and the replay will show that, don't over-react, you may find out in the replay that it was not the other guys fault at all. Full damage will make this a very fun, but challenging race. If your not comfortable being in a pack at 200+ m.p.h. in a corner try to give yourself a little room. Hold your line and let the other guy make the move. If there is a pile up and your involved, thats racing and happens in NASCAR, remain calm and remember there's alot of race. Incidents will generally happen in the first 10 laps when everyone is close together, after that most settle down and get into a rythme. For those who haven't done a NASCAR oval race be prepaired for some bump drafting. Most people will bump draft the straights and back off before the corners as not to cause an accident. There are a few that will bump draft the entire track, and alot of that has to do with having raced with the other driver and knowing who can handle what. I'm just looking to have fun this race and not to get damage.

Thanks Martin! Sounds good! Just making sure!

 

[TX Executioner]

In addition to the great advice Martin had, I would like to add that it is bump drafting not slam drafting. I always let off the gas and try to match the lead car's speed just a few inches off his bumper, then get back in it and push without a huge bump. If you do it correctly, the lead car may not even feel it. It doesn't take much to cause both cars to get damage from an overly aggressive bump, and the race is so long there is no real need to be in such a hurry. Also, pit road speed seems to have been lowered since we last raced here. I'm not sure what the limit is, but 70 mph will get you in without a penalty.

 

[Psycho Turtle]

Great question Ph1sher, thank you martin_ky, Choate51, and TX_Executioner for your input! 👍

 

[Casa]

I might try to join you guys for this one... long race, but I love running here in the cup cars... so much fun!

I was looking into a HP/ PP limit based series for just NASCAR at Daytona, where you could tune, but had a hard cap on PP/HP to try and match the same speeds/times as actual cup, instead of how fast you go in GT5.

 

[micantony]

...also if there is a 3 second or so gap between cars it faster to actually slow down and catch another pack and work together.

👍 good advice. Particularly about working together if you're not in the lead group to try to catch up and give yourself a chance. And make sure you pit with somebody, otherwise you may end up all alone when you come out of the pits and it can really cost you.

 

[Choate51]

I didn't see the full damage part, slingshots will be the way to gain ground here, not bump drafting.....

The fastes technique I found when utilizing the slingshot is to actually have the car directly behind the lead car give a small gap in mid corner then use that gap to gain a run on the lead car and then pass the lead car, if there is a 3rd car then the 3rd car would then shoot around the then lead car. But, just the 2 car tandem will make up quite a bit of ground.

 

[1redsox2]

Count me in for tomorrow!

 

[Ph1sh]

Great question Ph1sher, thank you martin_ky, Choate51, and TX_Executioner for your input! 👍

Thanks, and the first turn does not apply here as I'm guessing, we will just race around it like its a regular lap

 

[Psycho Turtle]

Thanks, and the first turn does not apply here as I'm guessing, we will just race around it like its a regular lap

That's another one for martin_ky.

 

[martin_ky]

Thanks, and the first turn does not apply here as I'm guessing, we will just race around it like its a regular lap

That is correct, again use your best judgement and remember we will all be close together at that point.

 

[martin_ky]

 

[Dolph Drago]

Nice pictures, Martin. I know which car I am in the first 4 pictures, but after that I have no idea.

 

[Garagefather]

Great race last night! Choate absolutely torched us again, lapping the entire field with 5 to go. Nicely done. 👍

Personally, I had a great battle for about 5 laps with Martin with a little under 15 to go for 2nd. It took several tries to finally get around him in turn 1. After Choate lapped me with 5 to go, I had a little off course excursion into the sand. It seemed like it took forever to get out of it and put Garage-Father right on my back bumper. He pushed me hard, and I thought there was no way I was going to be able to hold him off. Somehow I kept him at bay and secured 2nd, barely.

I was running 1:36's throughout most of my runs and was losing almost a second a lap to Choate. How in the world do you run that fast?? And Garage-Father, how many laps did you do on that last stint? I thought I pitted later, but you caught up to me despite having (what I believed to be) older tires.

Also wanted to add that I felt the lapped cars were very courteous during the race, so thank you for that.

All in all, I had a great time last night. Can't wait for next week!

My last stint was the shortest. I also really worked early in the stint to save my tires so they would be fresher at the end. I had better grip at the end but you just didn't make a bad enough mistake for me to get by cleanly. I pushed you to make an error but you did not. Nice driving on your part IMO:tup:. I can get most people to crack under pressure if I have a better car but you hung in there.

 

[Dolph Drago]

My last stint was the shortest. I also really worked early in the stint to save my tires so they would be fresher at the end. I had better grip at the end but you just didn't make a bad enough mistake for me to get by cleanly. I pushed you to make an error but you did not. Nice driving on your part IMO:tup:. I can get most people to crack under pressure if I have a better car but you hung in there.

Thanks. And you raced me clean, so thank you for that, too. I wasn't too worried about finishing 2nd until I did make a mistake as Choate was lapping me. Went a little too wide when he was under me and dipped a wheel into the grass. When I tried to brake and correct my car, I headed straight for the sand. Appropriately, as in the league name, I was like a turtle trying to get out of there , which put you right behind me. I thought you were going to get by me in turn 1 with 2 (I think) to go. I pushed hard on the outside hoping you wouldn't be able to get a decent run off the corner and entry into the right hander. Had it been earlier in the race, I may have lifted and let you by, but not with 2 to go.

I know how hard it was to pass in turn 1, though. It took me 4 tries to get around Martin there a few laps prior. The first two times I got into the corner too hard and slid into or nearly into the grass. Martin was smart and waited for my mistake both times and crossed back under, retaking the position. The third try I didn't overdrive the turn, but couldn't get a run off. The fourth time, I did trade a little paint on the door with him. Hopefully I didn't make him mad.

 

[martin_ky]

Not at all Dolph, I knew you had better tires and would get by me one of those times. I was braking as late as I could. Tried to make you work for it.

 

[martin_ky]

 

[Psycho Turtle]

Great pictures and banner martin_ky, thanks!

 

[Dolph Drago]

Hmm. Which Nascar should I drive? I'm partial to A.J.'s Best Buy cars and have mileage on them. But since my paint scheme in the league is orange with black wheels, Logano's car would be perfect for me. Decisions, decisions...

By the way, how did practice go a couple days ago?

Edit: Nevermind. Didn't realize Logano's car had orange wheels, not black.

 

[micantony]

anyone else notice the nascars feel different from the last time we raced them on Daytona?