UEFA Champions League Thread [Archive]

[OZZYGT]

I'm getting tired of eating English food.


Not a surprise to be honest, we just had to win it.


Congratulazione ACMilan!

 

[sheruken]

Congratulations Indeed! AC Milan..

 

[Famine]

A second place team originally thrown out of the competition for corruption and finishing 4th this season beats a 3rd place team in a different league in the final of the "Champions' League".

Woo.

 

[<_Spike_>]

Maybe it's irony, Liverpool were second best but won it in 2005. 2007? Easily the better team but just not their night...if it weren't for a FLUKE free kick...who knows... ref wasn't exactly that helpful if you were playing in red either, especially near the end...maybe Gerrard could've made better of his chance in the second half...

 

[OZZYGT]

And here we go with the reff comments, pathetic stats, and some other lame excuse. What else is left? hummm let me guess, corruption in the UEFA Champions League? Sure!

Go ahead


Don't worry, one day, your team will win it.









One day....*sigh*

 

[sheruken]

I think Liverpool misses a good finisher. There are all amazing architects in that team, but no Accurate Finisher.. I feel for Livpool today, they were so good through out, with so many chances. But chances don't win matches. Goals do. And even if it was a fluke goal, probably (unintentionally ofcourse) off the hand, it still wasnt the goal that won the match. The Kaka' through pass with an amazing finish by Inzaghi, was the final nail in the coffin..

 

[daan]

And here we go with the reff comments,

If it was announced that there was to be "a minimum of 3 minutes stoppage time", why did the ref blow his whistle at 92 minutes 42 seconds?

 

[Famine]

And here we go with the reff comments, pathetic stats, and some other lame excuse. What else is left? hummm let me guess, corruption in the UEFA Champions League? Sure!

Go ahead


Don't worry, one day, your team will win it.









One day....*sigh*

The ref was quite poor overall - he let too much go on both sides. AC Milan's first goal was dodgy enough (it came off Inzaghi's arm = handball), but Liverpool's goal was as bad if not worse (well offside). Several dodgy offsides were given (Kaka was offside but Inzaghi was on and it was Inzaghi who controlled it) and a couple weren't. You could argue that Carragher should have gone for a professional foul too.

And then he blew early.



I'm a Wednesdayite. I'm surprised when my team win a game, let alone a trophy. But importantly, I'm a neutral when it comes to most high-profile games...

 

[sheruken]

Yeah and the ball was in play too.. To me all that doesnt matter anymore though. AC Milan won it, and fairly.. Sure they wasted time with all the tricks possible in the books, but that's all fair and part of the game.. I am sure any other team would've done it too.. Just coz it's the known cheats doing it, doesnt mean they're any different!! (okay, that was un-called for )

 

[ExigeEvan]

I loved it when the AC Milan sub acted all worn out to stall a throw-in when he'd got on the pitch 2 minutes before

 

[Dave A]

If it was announced that there was to be "a minimum of 3 minutes stoppage time", why did the ref blow his whistle at 92 minutes 42 seconds?

And there was a substitution made in the extra time, subs are supposed to count for 30 seconds of added time, so that's nearly a whole minuet early that the ref blew.

Congratulations to Milan anyways, Liverpool controled the possesion, and played the better game but they didn't take enough chances. If you don't take the chances it doesn't matter how well you play in the middle of the park, your not going to score. Milans first goal I thought was a handball, it looked to me like it deflected off his arm. The second goal was a major defensive lapse.

 

[Touring Mars]

Liverpool played well, but Milan were worthy winners... 👍

Inzaghi didn't deserve the first goal though... that was Pirlo's goal if you ask me..

 

[<_Spike_>]

One thing I don't get about Rafa's selection..

Kewell - WHYYYYYY? The guys played 46 minutes of football all season, what the hell was he doing in a squad when they could've quite easily have had someone else in his place who was up to speed on fitness and not so rusty.

 

[Dave A]

I didn't mind Kewell coming on, it was Zenden who I tohugh was the weak link, he's too old to play at that pace anymore. He doesn't have the legs for it. Almost every attacking move that involved him either stopped or slowed right down when he got the ball. Pennant wasn't much better, while he didn't slow attacks down, he kept hold of the ball far too long in many instances ,instead choosing to carry on running with the ball and missing the best chances of creating a good pass or cross. Though there was one instance when PEnnant was going for the ball and Gerrard broke from his run and took the ball away from Pennant. If I was Pennant, after Gerrards constant shouting at him for not passing soon enough I'd have given Gerrard a once over, he should have left the ball and ran into the box to create an extra possiblity for a pass.

 

[markj_87]

I think all is fair when you consider Liverpool won in 2005 with 12 minutes of pressure in the entire game. They played very well this time around but after the final 2 years ago there really aren't any grounds to complain.

 

[<_Spike_>]

Well there kinda are grounds to complain because you can't exactly say Liverpool deserved to lose because of what happened 2 years ago

 

[Alex.]

Liverpool played well, but Milan were worthy winners... 👍

Inzaghi didn't deserve the first goal though... that was Pirlo's goal if you ask me..

but if pipo as they call him didnt touch it reina would have covered it

 

[OZZYGT]

Well there kinda are grounds to complain because you can't exactly say Liverpool deserved to lose because of what happened 2 years ago

It' Liverpool's fault buddy. Not the ref's, not the fans, it was the team. They had the oportunities, they didn't take advantage of them, Milan did. Less goals than rival = no victory. Face it.

Jeez, you guys are terrible losers. And I thought Mexicans were bad enough! That's football guys!

Hahaha, ohh man, I can just imagine if this forum existed when Mardona did that goal with the hand.....40 pages of only bitching and moaning!

but if pipo as they call him didnt touch it reina would have covered it

And how do you know that? Can you see the future and confirm that he would have definitely blocked the shot? Can ya?

 

[Touring Mars]

I see what you're saying, CCX, but it's a bit like saying "That would have been a goal if it had gone in..." Liverpool had a great chance to level at 1-1 and if that had happened, it would have been a very different game from that point. They just didn't get the rub of the green. I thought the ref was poor aswell, but Ozzy.'s right... Liverpool have no-one to blame but themselves... Rafa's team selection was decidely queer...

 

[Famine]

Jeez, you guys are terrible losers.

Who are? Liverpool lost and, to the best of my knowledge, none of the neutrals posting in this thread are Liverpool supporters.

 

[Omnis]

Actually, it did look like the ball hit Pippo's shoulder and pectoral. It's not like he swatted the ball in either. I don't think you can label it as a handball when he made no play for the ball except running towards goal.

 

[OZZYGT]

Yeah, and who said that it was a handball?? Ohh right, a neutral did. I forgot we're all neutrals here, except for myself...

Ohh boy this is funny..

 

[Famine]

Yeah, and who said that it was a handball?? Ohh right, a neutral did.

Correct. Hey... look at what else I said!

Liverpool's goal was as bad if not worse (well offside).

Several dodgy offsides were given (Kaka was offside but Inzaghi was on and it was Inzaghi who controlled it)

You could argue that Carragher should have gone for a professional foul too.

Three things that went in Liverpool's favour that I said shouldn't have.

Wow, it's almost like... I was observing the game from a neutral viewpoint or something.

I forgot we're all neutrals here, except for myself...

Well, other than any AC Milan and Liverpool fans, yes.

 

[Omnis]

Wow, it's almost like... I was observing the game from a neutral viewpoint or something.

Yeah, seriously.

 

[RouWa]

And there was a substitution made in the extra time, subs are supposed to count for 30 seconds of added time,

Substitutions are play time. The whole purpose of a substitution in overtime is to play for time.

so that's nearly a whole minuet early that the ref blew.

It's the refs decision to end a game. His alone. Usually the ref stops the time when there is a delay. The game ends after 90.00 minutes on his watch. The displayed overtime is just a recommendation. The ref can end the game whenever he wants.

he let too much go on both sides.

It's weird to hear this from an Englishman. The Premier League is probably the toughest league in the world. That's the main reason why many Germans love it. Games are much less interrupted than in Germany and the rest in Europe. We Germans call that "British toughness". IMO the ref whistled very british yesterday.

 

[Dave A]

Yeah, and who said that it was a handball?? Ohh right, a neutral did. I forgot we're all neutrals here, except for myself...

Ohh boy this is funny..

Congratulations to Milan anyways, Liverpool controled the possesion, and played the better game but they didn't take enough chances. If you don't take the chances it doesn't matter how well you play in the middle of the park, your not going to score. Milans first goal I thought was a handball, it looked to me like it deflected off his arm. The second goal was a major defensive lapse.

Yep too right, I'm definitely not a Liverpool supporter. In fact I despise Liverpool football club. I wouldn't stick up for them over something unless I felt it was something thy were wronged for.

It's the refs decision to end a game. His alone. Usually the ref stops the time when there is a delay. The game ends after 90.00 minutes on his watch. The displayed overtime is just a recommendation. The ref can end the game whenever he wants.

That is true, but it is also true that a penalty is only given if the ref wants, even if it's blatant, if the ref says no then it's no penalty is taken. It doesn't make it the right decision though.

 

[Famine]

It's weird to hear this from an Englishman. The Premier League is probably the toughest league in the world. That's the main reason why many Germans love it. Games are much less interrupted than in Germany and the rest in Europe. We Germans call that "British toughness". IMO the ref whistled very british yesterday.

Yes - a good referee is one who isn't noticed. You don't want someone who blows the whistle every time there's a tackle and insists on free kicks taking place from the exact spot the "foul" occurred (I've had a hockey umpire like that. We wanted to hit him).

But there's playing the advantage and there's being too lenient. And unfortunately he set a precedent early on for leniency. It took Gattuso scything a player down (err... Finnan?) well after the ball had gone for him to bring out a yellow card... I was actually surprised he gave the free kick that led to the handled goal, though correctly, simply because he'd been so unwilling to blow the whistle until that point. Similarly, you could argue that he ought to have sent Carragher off - Carragher left it for Agger to deal with, then realised he was too far away, ran after Kaka and just hoiked him to the ground with no attempt to play the ball, a clear professional foul denying a goalscoring opportunity - though you could argue that Agger had made up ground so that Carragher wasn't the last man when he fouled Kaka. But it would have been out of character for him.

 

[ExigeEvan]

Yeah, and who said that it was a handball?? Ohh right, a neutral did. I forgot we're all neutrals here, except for myself...

Ohh boy this is funny..

So wait, British supporters aren't neutral because Liverpool are british, but you're completely neutral despite being an Italian American with a "THANK YOU GOD FOR GIVING US ITALIAN FOOTBALL."

Riiiiight.

 

[OZZYGT]

So wait, British supporters aren't neutral because Liverpool are british, but you're completely neutral despite being an Italian American with a "THANK YOU GOD FOR GIVING US ITALIAN FOOTBALL."

Riiiiight.

Hehe sorry Evan, but you missed the last part of my post, which was actually not intended to be a sarcasm remark:

except for myself...

It is blatantly obvious that I am not a "neutral" follower here....

 

[ExigeEvan]

Hehe sorry Evan, but you missed the last part of my post, which was actually not intended to be a sarcasm remark:

"..." implies sarcasm damn you!!