Ugly But Appealing Vehicles

[Badasp5.0]

Smokey and the Bandit 3 literally killed that model of Firebird.

I completely forgot that a 3rd gen was in the 3rd Bandit movie.

 

[XS]

As ugly as it is, I like the Dodge Shadow. It just seams like a nice little car.

The "would you rather thread" plus your post reminds me of this little gem:

...Which I think fits the ugly but appealing label very well.

 

[MadMike32]

Funnily enough, I rather love the looks of the last-gen Firebird. It's the car itself that's just...meh.


As for my own:
Caterham AeroSeven

Hideous? Absolutely. Awesome? Very. As ugly as it is, I would love to have one.

 

[Slash]

That is epic.

 

[MadMike32]

That is epic.

It's a Caterham Seven with actual downforce, and modern suspension to boot. Stick a rotary in it and you have my dream car.

 

[Slash]

What I would do to have one of those with a Cleveland under the hood...

 

[Lotus Exige S]

Haha..you always thinking of Ford motors mate!

 

[Slash]

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Gumpert Apollo R. Ugly, but fast!

 

[Zona]

The Mini Moke. I think it looks hideous but I wouldn't say no to driving one!

 

[RDF97]

I completely forgot that a 3rd gen was in the 3rd Bandit movie.

Well the film was horrible so it makes sense if people forget that it was the so called "star car".

Anyways, this is a car that I can respect but I hate the looks of it.

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Yes that seems to be true. I think many people feel that a sporty wagon is like a sporty minivan, at the end of the day most people simply don't see the point or find it uncool. In my case, the Panamera and that Cadillac look like disproportionate retarded cousins of a better looking vehicle. Sometimes certain designs can hold up through a whole fleet of models, and other times the designs just can't be used on more than one model. For instance, the Aston Martin Rapide and the Audi RS6 Avant are perfect examples of a design that works across multiple model ranges, whereas, for me, the Panamera and the Cadillac don't.

Very True that..I had not thought of that before..

 

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To some, it may be ugly, but I find it decent for a '70s car. Plus the drivetrain in it has some of the best parts from Ford. It had the 302 and 351W, and also the 351M/400. Transmissions are the FMX and C6, which are known to be very good plus the axle combination with the 9" and others are unbeatable in strength and reliability. Only problem is a manual wasn't offered. Not a hard fix.

 

[Lotus Exige S]

IS there no ford or ford thing that you don't know haha!

Btw those 302'S and 351's are still very very popular in Australia

 

[Slash]

IS there no ford or ford thing that you don't know haha!

Btw those 302'S and 351's are still very very popular in Australia

Except they are Windsor engines, most of them are Cleveland's

 

[Mikeybc]

Honda Ridgeline, My wife wouldn't even sit in one at the dealer..."its too ugly and the speedometer trim and dash is Godawful ugly too !" she said.

A couple years later while were looking for a second CRV we had a chance to get a very good deal on a used Ridgeline instead. We bought it and she quickly fell in love with it, Its a very versatile and comfortable vehicle, It also has a locking rear diff and will go just about anywhere we need it to go, the only real drawbacks are limited ground clearance and no low range but we don't do rock crawling.

As ugly as and hated by many as it is we will probably buy a new one next year. We traded our Ridgeline in for a new Accord 3 years ago and we really miss it.

 

[Lotus Exige S]

Wow I have never heard of that!

So it's just a permanent 4WD?

 

[Mikeybc]

Wow I have never heard of that!

So it's just a permanent 4WD?

No, not permanent, this quote explains it thoroughly and better than I can myself. v

"VTM-4
The drive system always launches the vehicle in 4 wheel drive mode. The system reduces torque on the rear wheels to zero when cruising to optimize fuel economy. The system is always looking for wheel slippage between the front and rear wheels. If wheel slippage occurs, torque will be increased to the rear wheels. The VTM-4 controller function is a separate system from the VSA system.

When driving off-road or in deep snow where you may need some wheel slippage, it is advisable to deactivate the VSA system to avoid unintended intervention. However, this deactivates the limited slip mode that is provided for the front axle. In most cases, it is best to let the system power through and help with traction issues by keeping your foot into the throttle and maintaining forward momentum. If you are traversing a steep hill with limited friction (mu), it may be advisable to shut the VSA system off before starting to climb the hill. Otherwise, it is best to keep it engaged (except for deep snow, sand or mud).

VTM-4 Lock
As already described, the VTM-4 lock button can be activated in first, second or reverse gear positions at speeds less than 18 mph. the VTM-4 system utilizes two cutch packs – one for each wheel. When max power is applied to both LH and RH coils, make no mistake, the system is locked. Both rear wheels can not be rotated at different speeds. Do not run the system in lock mode when on pavement. If you tried to turn a corner with the lock button engaged, you can feel the system bind, just like an old 4WD system that is locked front to rear. It is true it is not a mechanical lock when it is locked. It is a clutch pack that will not slip when max current is applied (up to the torque limits of the system)."

 

[GranTurismo916]

Honda Ridgeline, My wife wouldn't even sit in one at the dealer..."its too ugly and the speedometer trim and dash is Godawful ugly too !" she said.

A couple years later while were looking for a second CRV we had a chance to get a very good deal on a used Ridgeline instead. We bought it and she quickly fell in love with it, Its a very versatile and comfortable vehicle, It also has a locking rear diff and will go just about anywhere we need it to go, the only real drawbacks are limited ground clearance and no low range but we don't do rock crawling.

As ugly as and hated by many as it is we will probably buy a new one next year. We traded our Ridgeline in for a new Accord 3 years ago and we really miss it.

I actually like the look of those.

 

[Slash]

Never cared for them myself.

 

[JAHHAJ]

I actually like the look of those.

Agreed 👍

 

[MedigoFlame]

Just grow to love 80s cars more and more. Mainly the Japanese ones.

 

[Slash]

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

O.O What is that??? I want one. Now.

so hawt

 

[Slash]

O.O What is that??? I want one. Now.

so hawt

Its a 1973 Ford Explorer SUV concept. Here's another 2 pics.

 

[Mikeybc]

Its a 1973 Ford Explorer SUV concept. Here's another 2 pics.

What the hell ! Looks like it has a built in sail, what is it supposed to be ?

Anyway it has a certain cool factor. would love to see a crash test video on one, looks kind of scary in that regard.

 

[Lotus Exige S]

Yeah that looks cool!..IT absolutely screams 70'S!

 

[Lotus Exige S]

No, not permanent, this quote explains it thoroughly and better than I can myself. v

"VTM-4
The drive system always launches the vehicle in 4 wheel drive mode. The system reduces torque on the rear wheels to zero when cruising to optimize fuel economy. The system is always looking for wheel slippage between the front and rear wheels. If wheel slippage occurs, torque will be increased to the rear wheels. The VTM-4 controller function is a separate system from the VSA system.

When driving off-road or in deep snow where you may need some wheel slippage, it is advisable to deactivate the VSA system to avoid unintended intervention. However, this deactivates the limited slip mode that is provided for the front axle. In most cases, it is best to let the system power through and help with traction issues by keeping your foot into the throttle and maintaining forward momentum. If you are traversing a steep hill with limited friction (mu), it may be advisable to shut the VSA system off before starting to climb the hill. Otherwise, it is best to keep it engaged (except for deep snow, sand or mud).

VTM-4 Lock
As already described, the VTM-4 lock button can be activated in first, second or reverse gear positions at speeds less than 18 mph. the VTM-4 system utilizes two cutch packs – one for each wheel. When max power is applied to both LH and RH coils, make no mistake, the system is locked. Both rear wheels can not be rotated at different speeds. Do not run the system in lock mode when on pavement. If you tried to turn a corner with the lock button engaged, you can feel the system bind, just like an old 4WD system that is locked front to rear. It is true it is not a mechanical lock when it is locked. It is a clutch pack that will not slip when max current is applied (up to the torque limits of the system)."

So Basically it's just controlled by a computer..Torque on Demand 4WD

 

[Mikeybc]

Sorry. I edited my post and accidentally created a new post somehow with this laggy phone. please delete.

 

[Mikeybc]

@Lotus Exige S

Pretty much, not your oldschool mechanical 4wd system, no low range, it has its limitations but it's still pretty effective and much better than the CRV's system.