Unlocking system via Arcade mode

[Brutaka]

I had an idea about Arcade mode. Lets say that Arcade mode starts you off with 100 cars, when you do Arcade races and time trials more cars can be unlocked for Arcade-only use. For example, If you do a LMP race with a Audi R10, if you complete a certain "goal"(As in wining the race on a certain track, beating a lap record, etc) or such you unlock the R18.
This system could be good for people who don't enjoy or have time to do the usually long GT Mode career, with this system, you could step into your favorite in a day and collect all 1200+ cars in about a month, It will also give arcade mode itself an even more fulfilling purpose.
Let me know your thoughts and ways this can be improved.

 

[Exorcet]

This system could be good for people who don't enjoy or have time to do the usually long GT Mode career

No it isn't.

What is the point of this?

Just give us everything from the moment the game starts.

 

[Samus]

Agreed. No reason whatsoever to lock cars away in Arcade mode.

 

[Brutaka]

Understandable, but i personally don't like the idea of having all cars automatically available at the start, i like to earn them by doing things but not when its incredibly hard or tedious like buying the $20 million cars in GT5.

 

[Johnnypenso]

This thread belongs here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=260298

 

[Samus]

Understandable, but i personally don't like the idea of having all cars automatically available at the start, i like to earn them by doing things but not when its incredibly hard or tedious like buying the $20 million cars in GT5.

You can earn and own them in GT Mode though. Why would you want to purposely restrict yourself just being able to drive any car in Arcade mode. Isn't that what you bought the game for?

 

[jacnob]

This sounds very similar to how the free-race worked in Enthusia.

 

[grashopper]

I always thought each car you bought should at least unlock the same car in arcade. Sucks when you are trying to play with the same cars in split screen. You have to buy everything you might want to use in advance ... And twice so you have different colors.
They didn't have enough in arcade in 5 so I would love something to increase the count.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I always thought each car you bought should at least unlock the same car in arcade. Sucks when you are trying to play with the same cars in split screen. You have to buy everything you might want to use in advance ... And twice so you have different colors.
They didn't have enough in arcade in 5 so I would love something to increase the count.

That's how it worked in GT4 - GT5's Arcade Mode always felt unfinished to me, for the reasons you mentioned, being such a backwards step from a much older game.

I'm inclined to agree with Samus and Exorcet; don't lock cars away from people, open up everything from day one in Arcade Mode. The incentive to hunt them down in Simulation Mode? You can customize them and make them your own; Arcade allows for "test drives", so to speak.

 

[eran0004]

I'd prefer to have all the cars available in arcade mode from the start. There is already a collector mode in GT Life (or whatever it's called in GT6), I don't really need another one.

 

[sparkytooth]

Have all the new and old-new (GT5 Premium cars) available from the start in Arcade. Also categorize the cars by manufacturer like GT4 did. GT4 still has the best Arcade Mode in my opinion

The tracks should be done like in GT4 aswell, except for the unlocking after a certain number of days part.

 

[daus26]

I also thought GT4's Arcade was the best, and should be the way to go imo. I'm fine with everything unlocked as well, but definitely, I don't want Arcade to be another mode where you have to earn everything again like in GT1 and GT3. If I worked hard to get a car in GT Mode, I shouldn't have to work for it again in Arcade. I don't really remember GT2 lol.

GT5 was definitely unfinished. I mean it was unacceptable.

 

[warp9engage]

Arcade Mode as it was in GT4 would make the game for me at this point. I want to unlock cars for Arcade by purchasing them on GT Mode and then just hop on to Arcade, choose stock version of the car, choose from stock colors, and race. The favorites system can stay, if you want a custom car from your garage.

 

[Conquerer]

I also thought GT4's Arcade was the best, and should be the way to go imo. I'm fine with everything unlocked as well, but definitely, I don't want Arcade to be another mode where you have to earn everything again like in GT1 and GT3. If I worked hard to get a car in GT Mode, I shouldn't have to work for it again in Arcade. I don't really remember GT2 lol.

GT5 was definitely unfinished. I mean it was unacceptable.

GT4's was a good model, yes. I wish that returned in GT5... I don't like how in GT5 you can only choose between like 30 "recommended" cars as well as your garage. I want to be able to choose any car I have but have the option to drive it completely stock (in case mine is tuned) and change the colour, as you could in GT4.

For those who don't remember GT4, you start with a bunch of cars available free to drive. I don't know how many, maybe 100-200? Then as you advance through career mode and acquire cars, those models now become unlocked for use in arcade mode (unless they were already available before you had them) -- not your specific car, but the car in general (so it is stock and you can choose the colour). I'm not sure if you can use your garage in GT4's arcade mode, but it's a bit unnecessary anyway since you can practice on any car/track in GT mode.

Basically, I want the ability to choose any car in any colour that I have unlocked in arcade mode, without having to get in it, make sure it doesn't have any mods (especially since some mods like engine mods can't be undone), and go to the paint shop to change the colour. I want to be able to flip through a bunch of cars, choose the one I want, choose the colour I want that I'm feeling that day, and be off -- exactly like GT5's recommended cars, but the car list is way too small. I want to choose from every car that I have unlocked.

Edit:

I didn't see this post, but yes, I agree completely. Glad others feel the same.

Arcade Mode as it was in GT4 would make the game for me at this point. I want to unlock cars for Arcade by purchasing them on GT Mode and then just hop on to Arcade, choose stock version of the car, choose from stock colors, and race. The favorites system can stay, if you want a custom car from your garage.

 

[glassjaw]

I had an idea about Arcade mode. Lets say that Arcade mode starts you off with 100 cars, when you do Arcade races and time trials more cars can be unlocked for Arcade-only use. For example, If you do a LMP race with a Audi R10, if you complete a certain "goal"(As in wining the race on a certain track, beating a lap record, etc) or such you unlock the R18.
This system could be good for people who don't enjoy or have time to do the usually long GT Mode career, with this system, you could step into your favorite in a day and collect all 1200+ cars in about a month, It will also give arcade mode itself an even more fulfilling purpose.
Let me know your thoughts and ways this can be improved.

I actually like this idea a lot, but then I would because I enjoy the old-school arcade modes from GT1-GT3. The fact that I wouldn't have every car from the start doesn't really bother me, seeing as how it usually doesn't take me very long to acquire most of the cars I want anyway. It would be even cooler if the goals for acquiring cars had some significance, or were specific to the history of the car itself. So to unlock the Audi R18 you would have to beat a time set at Circuit de la Sarthe, or to unlock the Mazda 787B you'd have to win a single race against other Group C cars from the time period at Spa or Monza or something. It would be a much more engaging and personal arcade mode if it were done this way.

 

[THOMASBARNES]

Considering that A-Spec and B-Spec are no longer separate I wonder if this will mean that we can do B-Spec races in Arcade mode like in GT4 I hope we can

 

[Inferno251]

Understandable, but i personally don't like the idea of having all cars automatically available at the start...

I agree with this first point about GT Mode-I really do hope that the 25 free cars provided by the anniversary edition are not in the garage at the start. Interesting that PD provide the price of each car along with the specs (so maybe they're not provided at the start ).
In terms of Arcade mode, there is no need to lock cars. As SlipZtrEm put it:

Arcade allows for "test drives", so to speak.

Arcade Mode as it was in GT4 would make the game for me at this point. I want to unlock cars for Arcade by purchasing them on GT Mode and then just hop on to Arcade, choose stock version of the car, choose from stock colors, and race. The favorites system can stay, if you want a custom car from your garage.

👍 This is a waaaaaay better system than it was in GT5, where you could only change the cars via hacking to obtain the secret menu

 

[Samus]

I really don't get the "I just bought a car game but I don't want the cars available to me". Especially when it's cars you've driven in other games or unlocked in earlier GT games. I mean assuming you bought all the cars in GT5, why would you want those cars locked away in GT6? Don't you just want to, you know, drive them?

 

[TokoTurismo]

I want the cars to be locked. jk, yeah all the cars should be unlocked at the start.

 

[IceMan PJN]

1) The topic post described the career mode in GT5 as being long, but it really isn't, with the exception of the endurance portion, which just artificially drags it out. You could go through making all races an hour, two hours, or more and make the play time longer but it would be the same number of events; just more tedious.

2) There's no point making cars locked in arcade mode. Arcade is the bullcrap mode where you do what you want without goals or accomplishments, while the career is for completing events and progression. Arcade is like an open sandbox. Restricting it makes it pointless.

 

[glassjaw]

I really don't get the "I just bought a car game but I don't want the cars available to me". Especially when it's cars you've driven in other games or unlocked in earlier GT games. I mean assuming you bought all the cars in GT5, why would you want those cars locked away in GT6? Don't you just want to, you know, drive them?

It depends what you're in it for. If you just want to drive any car on any track and the driving experience is all that matters to you, then obviously you wouldn't want any content locked to begin with. I appreciate that, but at the same time Gran Turismo is a game and a big part of that involves a certain degree of challenge or incentive, where you don't necessarily have everything you want immediately available to you but instead have to work for it. And if that challenge can be done in an interesting or creative way, then I think it's worth it. But again, that's me. It's the same reason why I find bare-bones PC simulators boring - a car and a track alone isn't enough for me. I could get that anywhere.

 

[sangdude82]

May be PD can make us to progress through the arcade mode and that will increase the size of favourite car list? Like 200?

 

[Johnnypenso]

It depends what you're in it for. If you just want to drive any car on any track and the driving experience is all that matters to you, then obviously you wouldn't want any content locked to begin with. I appreciate that, but at the same time Gran Turismo is a game and a big part of that involves a certain degree of challenge or incentive, where you don't necessarily have everything you want immediately available to you but instead have to work for it. And if that challenge can be done in an interesting or creative way, then I think it's worth it. But again, that's me. It's the same reason why I find bare-bones PC simulators boring - a car and a track alone isn't enough for me. I could get that anywhere.

That's why you should be able to choose your own method of play, instead of forcing players to go one route or the other. A sandbox mode where all the cars are unlocked and available to players online, a career mode where you have to earn your cars etc. And maybe the same for Arcade. If one wants all cars unlocked, hit a button and they are unlocked. If not, don't hit it and play your own way. Options, options, options. There are many types of GT players and we all would like options.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

May be PD can make us to progress through the arcade mode and that will increase the size of favourite car list? Like 200?

There is no logical reason to lock the ability to have more favorite car slots. Speaking of which, I don't see why we can't have access to our entire career mode garage in arcade mode.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I have never really cared much for the arcade mode and I would not want all the cars available in GTMode from the start, I mean it would be fine if they are not locked but you should have to earn credits and buy them to use them in career races. It will hurt the game if you could just pick a car and drive it in a GT mode race.

For online racing I have no problem with being able to drive the stock version of any car in the game but I think you should only be able to tune the ones you actually own.

 

[Exorcet]

May be PD can make us to progress through the arcade mode and that will increase the size of favourite car list? Like 200?

The favorite list having a size limit is a terrible as the XP system.

 

[sangdude82]

The favorite list having a size limit is a terrible as the XP system.

Yep, I totally agree.

 

[glassjaw]

That's why you should be able to choose your own method of play, instead of forcing players to go one route or the other. A sandbox mode where all the cars are unlocked and available to players online, a career mode where you have to earn your cars etc. And maybe the same for Arcade. If one wants all cars unlocked, hit a button and they are unlocked. If not, don't hit it and play your own way. Options, options, options. There are many types of GT players and we all would like options.

I never said that options weren't good to have. There was a lot of negativity about the OP's idea and I actually liked it, so I wanted to bring another side to the conversation. In an ideal world, an optional "unlock everything" button would be the perfect solution, though I've never heard of a developer doing that.

I mean, yeah we could all just kind of say "it would be great if PD made GT6 in such a way that everyone got exactly what they wanted," but that's never the reality. Which is why we have these debates.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I never said that options weren't good to have. There was a lot of negativity about the OP's idea and I actually liked it, so I wanted to bring another side to the conversation. In an ideal world, an optional "unlock everything" button would be the perfect solution, though I've never heard of a developer doing that.

I mean, yeah we could all just kind of say "it would be great if PD made GT6 in such a way that everyone got exactly what they wanted," but that's never the reality. Which is why we have these debates.

Why can't it be reality? All you would need is a list of options to come up when you first start the game?

1. Do you want to do the full career mode and acquire cars solely through race winnings, as per GT1-5? Yes/No

2 Instead of Option 1, would you prefer a sandbox mode where you can choose to start the game with a given number of cars (1-1200 you choose) so that you can immediately begin racing on or offline? Yes/No How many?

3. Would you a minimum number of cars in Arcade Mode to start the game and have new cars released only as you purchase them? Yes/No or would you prefer to start with all cars available in Arcade Mode? Yes/No

etc. etc. Not hard to do really, just takes a bit of forethought then everyone can play the game the way they want to play.

 

[Exorcet]

I mean, yeah we could all just kind of say "it would be great if PD made GT6 in such a way that everyone got exactly what they wanted," but that's never the reality. Which is why we have these debates.

This is nothing like asking for a perfect game. It's asking for a tiny change that would cost next to no effort.