Update Patch 1.08 is up

[Hotdoguk]

Just logged on In the UK, patch is live and being installed as I type.

 

[soniae74]

Just logged on In the UK, patch is live and being installed as I type.

Cool !! Thanks 👍

Confirmed.

Patch 1.08 has reached the UK.

 

[BINGOMAN]

hah i laugh at those bitter moral popes, that always complain and blame other people. what is there left for these fools? driving endlessly nonsense lifetimewasting grinders or waste their ps3 lifetimes and wasting energy b-specing!
non of us gets banned, none of us had any harm while we were having a great time getting donuts in under 1.3 secs. we are the real gran turismo drivers, we are the ones that spent enthusiastic times working on our setups and fighting other pilots from all over the world. the proof? we got the cash for it and we have garages full of excellent cars to have fun with and to explore in the coming months, while you guys who failed because of your stupid overmorality will be bitterly grinding for 1.000.000$ cars, over and over again. in the end it wasnt a question of moral, it was a question of intelligence.

i played every gran turismo starting from part one up to completing gt4 with 100%. no one of you butthurt fools can school me and tell me whats right, cuz you are wrong.
my drifting brothers, i look forward fighting you online with the wonderful cars pd made and we do own now. they thought we were bitter when pd closed the gap, but we are not, we are the winners, with the cash, the cars and the funtime we had getting it.
they will never understand but we wont care anyway HAHAHA!

 

[Tommy_861]

Somehow, this patching business of PD reminds me of the music industry. They keep on whining about people downloading music illegally, so they keep advertising that these guys are worse than Hitler and they try to make an example of a few by suing them for enormous sums of money. They're not trying to cure the disease at the source, instead they're patching the wounds by force.

What I'm trying to get at: people who play GT5 would see little reason for duping, grinding and using glitches like the SSR7 one if the game would be designed in a way that they don't feel the need to do that. I must stress that I don't mean a "free credits here!"-button. But if the game were designed so that playing through A-Spec is a fun experience, and that it gathers enough credits and XP to level up and buy cars without having to run a few races endlessly, the number of people using glitches would be minimal.

But instead of tackling the problem right there, PD just closes the holes they unintentionally left open. They don't try to attract people to play more and cheat less by making playing more attractive, they instead prevent them from short-cutting by limiting their possibilities to do so.

Sure it's a strategy which is going to work, but I'm not sure if it will truly satisfy people and shed a better light on PD.

Since I've apparently pissed off a ton of people in this thread I just wanted to say something here because your post is pretty good.

I just want to say in response though you are naive to think that even if credits were more plentiful people wouldn't cheat. In fact I'd almost guarantee people would still dupe cars and someone still would have figured this glitch out even if more money was easily available. Maybe it would be slightly less prevalent, but people inherently still want to take the easy way out.

 

[Slurm]

hah i laugh at those bitter moral popes, that always complain and blame other people. what is there left for these fools? driving endlessly nonsense lifetimewasting grinders or waste their ps3 lifetimes and wasting energy b-specing!
non of us gets banned, none of us had any harm while we were having a great time getting donuts in under 1.3 secs. we are the real gran turismo drivers, we are the ones that spent enthusiastic times working on our setups and fighting other pilots from all over the world. the proof? we got the cash for it and we have garages full of excellent cars to have fun with and to explore in the coming months, while you guys who failed because of your stupid overmorality will be bitterly grinding for 1.000.000$ cars, over and over again. in the end it wasnt a question of moral, it was a question of intelligence.

i played every gran turismo starting from part one up to completing gt4 with 100%. no one of you butthurt fools can school me and tell me whats right, cuz you are wrong.
my drifting brothers, i look forward fighting you online with the wonderful cars pd made and we do own now. they thought we were bitter when pd closed the gap, but we are not, we are the winners, with the cash, the cars and the funtime we had getting it.
they will never understand but we wont care anyway HAHAHA!

You are true champion. Now that you have all your cars, you can begin to use them and discover how boring it is to play the game normally Honestly, I couldn't care less about all the time you wasted on this. Grinding is grinding, and whether you're winning 20million GTcredits or 3 million a night, it's work, and I choose not to work a virtual, piece-pay night job, through my PS3.

 

[BINGOMAN]

you havent read my post properly, it actually was FUN driving RACES on SS7. it never felt like grinding.

 

[Tommy_861]

you havent read my post properly, it actually was FUN driving RACES on SS7. it never felt like grinding.

Yes because doing 200 donuts in 10 minutes for money makes you a "real gran turismo pilot". Kaz should just cancel GT Academy and have a SSR7 donut competition. Who every has the most cash and cars by the end wins!

 

[PAWEL17]

you havent read my post properly, it actually was FUN driving RACES on SS7. it never felt like grinding.

Are you talking about NORMAL racing? Or glitching, because if you thought glitching was more fun than grinding, their is something seriously wrong with you, what is more repetitive than driving in a circle at 21kmh, doing 4 secs a lap(or 1 sec donuts) over and over again for 200 laps, i'm sorry, but grinding was alot more fun, than that boring cheat(which i could only handle doing a maximum of 10 times, over the whole time it was up).

 

[the Interceptor]

Since I've apparently pissed off a ton of people in this thread I just wanted to say something here because your post is pretty good.

I just want to say in response though you are naive to think that even if credits were more plentiful people wouldn't cheat. In fact I'd almost guarantee people would still dupe cars and someone still would have figured this glitch out even if more money was easily available. Maybe it would be slightly less prevalent, but people inherently still want to take the easy way out.

I generally agree with the sentiment that there would still be a respectable number of people cheating even if the A-Spec mode would be perfectly balanced. However, my point was that this number, in my humble opinion, would be significantly reduced, and that those who do cheat would cheat less. I may have gotten a wrong picture from the posts on GTP, but I am under the impression that the majority of people who play GT5 have cheated in some way, may it "only" be duping cars or paints or the full-blown SSR7 glitch. But I wouldn't call those people out as cheaters, simply because this game seduced them to cheat. Not because cheating is easy, but because the consequences if they didn't cheat would be next to unbearable for them.

I actually think that beside those who would always cheat independently of the quality of gameplay, the reason for anyone to cheat would remain very small, thus people would do it not at all or only rarely (if the credit system would be balanced properly).

 

[Slurm]

you havent read my post properly, it actually was FUN driving RACES on SS7. it never felt like grinding.

Sorry, I think I get your point now. It definitely looked more fun the regular grinding! hehe.

Basically I'm just fed up of saving for the remaining cars I'd be interested in. Even this quicker and more funny/enjoyable grinding is still not worth it for me, because there's not a great game to use the rewards in.

 

[Tommy_861]

I generally agree with the sentiment that there would still be a respectable number of people cheating even if the A-Spec mode would be perfectly balanced. However, my point was that this number, in my humble opinion, would be significantly reduced, and that those who do cheat would cheat less. I may have gotten a wrong picture from the posts on GTP, but I am under the impression that the majority of people who play GT5 have cheated in some way, may it "only" be duping cars or paints or the full-blown SSR7 glitch. But I wouldn't call those people out as cheaters, simply because this game seduced them to cheat. Not because cheating is easy, but because the consequences if they didn't cheat would be next to unbearable for them.

I actually think that beside those who would always cheat independently of the quality of gameplay, the reason for anyone to cheat would remain very small, thus people would do it not at all or only rarely (if the credit system would be balanced properly).

I see what you're saying but something I've mentioned in the past is that the population of GTPlanet is actually extremely small compared to the overall online population of GT5. IMO cheats are more prevalent among this community as savvy user who would go so far as posting in forums would be more likely to know of and be aware of these issues. I'd say most players however much they enjoy the game don't care enough to seek out cheats, unless they are handed to them.

Just as an example I was playing in some open lobbies last night and in a couple of rooms during voice chat many people had no clue the SSR7 cheat even existed, they were talking about it because the patch news item was the first they had heard of it.

Based on that I feel the people who seek out the cheats always would have seeked them out, because for example lets say A-Spec Dreamcar paid out 2 million credits, well it still takes a couple hours to do, most would still rather knock it out in 5 minutes.

 

[checkyoursix]

Crybabies.

That's how you glitchers sound. Don't justify it, just do it and take the criticism. It is deserved. When others call you cheaters remember that you ARE breaking the spirit of the rules. That is the definition of cheating. Enjoy your game any way you want. Yes even by cheating if that's you thing.

I'm not saying stop glitching, you wouldn't listen anyway. You cheaters seem to actually care how you are perceived because there are a lot of excuses made for it. No one cares about excuses and I'm telling you I think you are cheaters and so do many others.

I've no problem with the patch. Kaz put those cars in there in the first place and he decides how they are given out. The original NFS had like three cars and nobody bitched as some in here do. They enjoyed what they had.

Kaz probably went online and saw half the lobbies said

Ss7whut$$$$**glitch**millionzin3minuteshahaPDSux

and got as disgusted as I did.

He has a commitment to the non glitchers to provide those paying customers with a good experience too. Nobody trying to do the right thing wants to see that crap every time they go online.

Glitchers go back to rubberbanding your controllers. At least then I can't see what you are doing. Don't worry no one will patch that. Isn't online B-spec a no effort moneymaker anyway? Not fast enough?

 

[jeep2008]

I made a couple of friends during these rebel days and that's a good thing at least...

 

[sina22]

Crybabies.

That's how you glitchers sound. Don't justify it, just do it and take the criticism. It is deserved. When others call you cheaters remember that you ARE breaking the spirit of the rules. That is the definition of cheating. Enjoy your game any way you want. Yes even by cheating if that's you thing.

I'm not saying stop glitching, you wouldn't listen anyway. You cheaters seem to actually care how you are perceived because there are a lot of excuses made for it. No one cares about excuses and I'm telling you I think you are cheaters and so do many others.

I've no problem with the patch. Kaz put those cars in there in the first place and he decides how they are given out. The original NFS had like three cars and nobody bitched as some in here do. They enjoyed what they had.

Kaz probably went online and saw half the lobbies said

Ss7whut$$$$**glitch**millionzin3minuteshahaPDSux

and got as disgusted as I did.

He has a commitment to the non glitchers to provide those paying customers with a good experience too. Nobody trying to do the right thing wants to see that crap every time they go online.

Glitchers go back to rubberbanding your controllers. At least then I can't see what you are doing. Don't worry no one will patch that. Isn't online B-spec a no effort moneymaker anyway? Not fast enough?

How are any glitchers crybabies when you admit you felt disgusted over seeing glitch rooms on SSR7? You let yourself get disgusted over a video game! What could be more of a cry baby move than getting your feelings hurt over a video game, ya sissy?

And quit being so melo-dramatic ya babies, there weren't 50% of the roooms that were glitching. Maybe 50% of the SSR7 rooms, but not all. Your just being dramam queens when you say that crap.

This is you all in a nutshell...
"Waaa waaa, booo hooo, I log online and see people racing in rooms I don't have to click on, join, be a part of, or even look at, but I do it to it anyway just to upset myslf because I take this game SOOOO seriously. I'm trying to be a professional online race-car-driver and these "cheaters" make my online achievements look so little and puny, I should be ranked ahead of them, have more cars than them, and everyone online should be as good as me because they keep bumping into me...waaa,waaa,waaa"

 

[sina22]

Since I've apparently pissed off a ton of people in this thread I just wanted to say something here because your post is pretty good.

I just want to say in response though you are naive to think that even if credits were more plentiful people wouldn't cheat. In fact I'd almost guarantee people would still dupe cars and someone still would have figured this glitch out even if more money was easily available. Maybe it would be slightly less prevalent, but people inherently still want to take the easy way out.

You didn't piss a bunch of people off. See there you go taking this crap too seriously again. We're simply pointing out you're a whiney clown who gets cranky over a video game, and how stupid you are for it. But it doesn't piss us off, because we really don't care about you. I just find you laughable.

 

[checkyoursix]

How are any glitchers crybabies when you admit you felt disgusted over seeing glitch rooms on SSR7? You let yourself get disgusted over a video game! What could be more of a cry baby move than getting your feelings hurt over a video game, ya sissy?

And quit being so melo-dramatic ya babies, there weren't 50% of the roooms that were glitching. Maybe 50% of the SSR7 rooms, but not all. Your just being dramam queens when you say that crap.

This is you all in a nutshell...
"Waaa waaa, booo hooo, I log online and see people racing in rooms I don't have to click on, join, be a part of, or even look at, but I do it to it anyway just to upset myslf because I take this game SOOOO seriously. I'm trying to be a professional online race-car-driver and these "cheaters" make my online achievements look so little and puny, I should be ranked ahead of them, have more cars than them, and everyone online should be as good as me because they keep bumping into me...waaa,waaa,waaa"

The crybabies hate the patch. I am disgusted by the actions of PEOPLE playing the game. See the difference?

Defend the cheating. Do the cheating. Whatever. At the end of the day you are a cheater and got patched. I agree with Kaz' vision and am not trying to circumvent it.

I expected a little flame anyway.

 

[BINGOMAN]

I agree with Kaz' vision and am not trying to circumvent it.

someones a lil bit psychotic? i can see the vision? are you for real? you sound like one of those bible belters who deny evolution theory...
gt5 is a GAME you psychos... you take it so serious and you hate so much, you mad!

 

[Xenn]

I will say, I was finding it tedious to make a room for people to join and barely anyone would race with me, cause of the SS7 glitch rooms.

I hope I can get better luck this time now.

 

[sam_i_am]

"Kaz's vision" is too broad a term. In my opinion, "Kaz's vision for the game engine" (physics, graphics and models), is quite a brilliant one and I think he achieved it for the most part.

However, Kaz/PD had really no vision for the game itself and put out something they cobbled together in what appears like a weekend. He can't seem to stand people abusing his "baby" and is now acting punitive. Instead of making a better game, they just plug the holes that are unimportant (and even fun for some people).

 

[checkyoursix]

someones a lil bit psychotic? i can see the vision? are you for real? you sound like one of those bible belters who deny evolution theory...
gt5 is a GAME you psychos... you take it so serious and you hate so much, you mad!

Wow. You win. I didn't realize that I was a "psycho." Now I can go work on my problem.

"Vision," by the way, means his direction for the game. Don't be intentionally dense. You know exactly what I meant.

I didn't realize being a Kaz fan and GT5 fanatic was a bad thing on gtplanet. My mistake. How many hours of enjoyment has Kaz' vision given to you? Hundreds? A thousand? I have respect for the man.

You can disagree with my opinions about cheating, but Kaz *does* have a vision, agree with it or not. What have you ever done that is so amazing as creating the GT series? You don't need to answer that.

 

[Tommy_861]

You didn't piss a bunch of people off. See there you go taking this crap too seriously again. We're simply pointing out you're a whiney clown who gets cranky over a video game, and how stupid you are for it. But it doesn't piss us off, because we really don't care about you. I just find you laughable.

No all I did was state my opinion, you and a few others are the ones who got all butthurt over it and needed to write manifestos about why they feel the need to do the glitch or whatever. I'm not cranky, I could care less this has no bearing on my life, just a discussion to kill time while I'm bored. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[BINGOMAN]

WOW, you are really a psycho... sorry pal but i leave the bus at this station,we are getting too far off track.
you dont know kaz, you dont know what he may think. talking about "his" visions and making them "yours" makes me feel uncomfortable...

 

[soniae74]

WOW, you are really a psycho...

That's overstepping the mark in my book.

 

[Minty]

Are you talking about NORMAL racing? Or glitching, because if you thought glitching was more fun than grinding, their is something seriously wrong with you, what is more repetitive than driving in a circle at 21kmh, doing 4 secs a lap(or 1 sec donuts) over and over again for 200 laps, i'm sorry, but grinding was alot more fun, than that boring cheat(which i could only handle doing a maximum of 10 times, over the whole time it was up).

You do a circle either way, one is just really big and takes along time. The other one you can chat with friends or use the computer while you hold the wheel/joystick to one side, or watch TV using the PIP feature on most TVs, or eat, or do damn near anything that can be done with 1 hand. With Indy though, you have to actually watch the "race" closely because you can't just turn left the whole time and come out with 1-3million credits.
As most people have said, grinding is grinding, so I'd much rather grind for 30 minutes and have 7million on SSR7 than grind for 30 minutes on Indy and have 300,000.

 

[garbuckle]

It was a bug... it got fixed.

/close thread

[although it does seem to be a good fly-catcher for all the ranting]

 

[checkyoursix]

WOW, you are really a psycho... sorry pal but i leave the bus at this station,we are getting too far off track.
you dont know kaz, you dont know what he may think. talking about "his" visions and making them "yours" makes me feel uncomfortable...

We know what Kaz thinks because he tells us what he thinks. Recently he gave an interview in Esquire. Did you watch the GTTV Goodwood show (available in game)? He even explains how the Miura was selected to be in the game. He has a twitter feed. His vision is not a secret, you just don't want to know what it is. That doesn't make me a psycho, sorry.

His influence in the car industry is greater than the CEO's of real car companies and it isn't my opinion:
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0711_kazunori_yamauchi_gran_turismo_5/index.html

You are right we are getting off topic. I'm going to leave off as well.

 

[Dreadin]

@Tommy_861
People will always be defensive to idea's that conflict to their own. You are correct that this forum is small compared to the community as a whole. I agree that this glitch hurt the online game side. It took people away from other tasks to do the patch so it does have an effect. What I am trying to figure out is why a forum allowed this glitch to be so wide spread... One of our members received a 1 day suspension for even vaguely describing how the glitch worked on another site.. This is the norm with online gaming and forums that support the games. Seems not so here, Sony/PD is relatively new to online gaming as compared to others in the business so they are going to have a learning curve on things like this. They are however fast learners and tenacious about protecting their rights.... ie subpoenaing the IP's from YouTube for all that viewed the jailbreak video. If they use Blizzard as a role model then they will get a lot tougher about these things ie... Blizzard banned 320,000 accounts in April last year and even turned off key codes on the worst offenders disc's. But with all that being said, they got this fixed for the most part and both sides can get back to playing. Which is why all bought the game anyway.

See ya on the track

 

[Supercheyenne]

<snipped it all because I can and should>

A) Sony/PD are not new comers to the gaming industry. I have no idea what you're thinking.

B) If they got it right the first time, they wouldn't need to fix it. PD is the one to blame for "hurting online gaming".

C) Oh, they didn't get it fixed. So they'll be wasting more time. Probably allot more to check the entire track. Too bad they shipped a substandard product without the proper testing. It's biting them in the butt now.

 

[Dreadin]

A) Sony/PD are not new comers to the gaming industry. I have no idea what you're thinking.

B) If they got it right the first time, they wouldn't need to fix it. PD is the one to blame for "hurting online gaming".

C) Oh, they didn't get it fixed. So they'll be wasting more time. Probably allot more to check the entire track. Too bad they shipped a substandard product without the proper testing. It's biting them in the butt now.

Please reread, in the Online gaming they are.

How much code do the think is in this game? and no they didn't exploit the glitch others did.

@Tommy_861 see I told you about Idea's that conflict with theirs.

 

[AMG.]

The AUP lists amongst other things the following:

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Quite a number of members here seem to think it doesn't apply to them. We have news for you... it does and we expect you to follow it.