Wait.........GT5 IS playable at Gamescom show floor

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In a road car, yes (unless the car is exceptionally fragile - see Chinese crash tests). In a race car... no. With a roll cage in situ the frame becomes considerably harder to deform to preserve the safety cell. This makes the doors kind of a weak link - and with good reason! You don't want to be trapped in a recently crashed race car.

On most road cars at typical road speeds, everything stays in about the right place to allow the doors to open more easily after a crash for similar reasons. However the higher the road speed and the older the car the more likely everything is to warp and bend. If it warps a bit, the doors get jammed shut. If it goes all Chinese, all bets are off.

Yeah I guess, when I was in a crash in a Renault Clio Sport (which was a few years old and had quite a high safety rating) one door jammed shut. The latch popped open in the crash, but the door was deformed so got jammed in the frame. The other door popped open as well but the hinge jammed, so you have to give it a mighty shove to open it, but it would open, almost closed again too, but not quite. :P

Though if it wasn't a Renault I'd certainly be dead, given where I was sitting, how hard we hit and where my seat and I ended up.
 
I had a crash recently where I was rear-ended at about 20-25mph in my MX-3 by a Megane. My MX-3 has, as far as I'm aware, never been tested or rated in a crash and escaped without a scratch (literally). The Megane was a 2000 model with a 4-star EuroNCAP rating and was written off :lol:
 
I had a crash recently where I was rear-ended at about 20-25mph in my MX-3 by a Megane. My MX-3 has, as far as I'm aware, never been tested or rated in a crash and escaped without a scratch (literally). The Megane was a 2000 model with a 4-star EuroNCAP rating and was written off :lol:

If I want my car to survive an accident, I'd drive a tough old bomb, If I want *me* to survive an accident, I think I'd rather be in the Megane :P I have no doubt if I'd been in the same accident in 95% of cars on the road I'd be dead, when the ambulance showed up the guys said "lucky no one was sitting there" but that's where I WAS sitting :P
 
I am happy with the game as it looks but also, not quite as excited as I should be, especially given not all cars will have damage, whats the point then. I don't care if they put damage in or not but, I can only hope they have a good penalty system then and don't allow damage and non-damage cars to race, that is extremely silly.

Again like my other posts in a few threads, sadly to me GT is starting to show its age and reminds me of Madden a little, where there is more style than substance, i hope they prove me wrong but I am a little let down. Damage is obviously a compromise so that they can say they have it, but can anyone explain why Forza and Grid etc... can have damage on all cars but GT cannot? I am beginning to wonder if they have any true race car people on staff to advise, or all just enthusiast developers. Because I see these other games saying how so-and-so former race champion advised and had input and you can see the reflection of that in the games physics. Where as GT on the surface seems like a bunch of guys that like cars but do not know much out side of that as to how a race car reacts and you wouldn't expect them to know. But you would expect them to have a consultant to tell them.

Lastly what boggles me, not only with GT but many other games is that in only a short time of playing and even a day of watching a video we can pick out any number of things that can be vastly improved upon. Why does it seem as though the developers either don't have people testing to tell them this, or are they blind to the problems. If you took one of us for one day and said, play the game as is and report back, or even watch someone else play the game and report back, you would have a vastly different game than is out now and it would probably be much closer to what we all expect it to be. Now i know programming it is an entirely different beast but, it doesnt take a genius to figure out (no reverse lights, barrier bounce, car bounce, low speed handling not accurate, the car getting bumped should not get penalized, etc...) and fix those issues.
 
I had a crash recently where I was rear-ended at about 20-25mph in my MX-3 by a Megane. My MX-3 has, as far as I'm aware, never been tested or rated in a crash and escaped without a scratch (literally). The Megane was a 2000 model with a 4-star EuroNCAP rating and was written off :lol:

Aren't all passenger vehicles had to be subject to crash tests in Europe?
 
As far as I'm aware there is no compulsion for crash tests. Not to mention that the MX-3 predates EuroNCAP by some considerable number of years.

In any case, since my MX-3 was hit and didn't suffer at all and the Megane was written off with the passenger breaking her foot, I'd say it passed.
 
As far as I'm aware there is no compulsion for crash tests. Not to mention that the MX-3 predates EuroNCAP by some considerable number of years.

In any case, since my MX-3 was hit and didn't suffer at all and the Megane was written off with the passenger breaking her foot, I'd say it passed.

No compulsion for crash tests in Europe? That's a bit wierd, I think the crash tests are mandatory here in the states.

*Feels safer behind wheel*.
 
I know they are. That's why you miss out on some great (low volume) cars.

And don't forget that your trucks don't have the same crash regulations as your cars and if you're in a car you're more likely to be wiped out by a truck in the US - and then all bets are off (except that you're probably going to die). I ran the numbers a couple of years ago - did you know that the average American person is twice as likely to die for every mile they spend in a car as the average Brit?
 
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Although it say China test it is false, this was a test done on a Holden Commodore (VB, 1978-1980) at a very high rate of speed (100mph or so), by a magazine (IIRC) not the usual 45mph in standard crash tests.
 
As far as I'm aware there is no compulsion for crash tests. Not to mention that the MX-3 predates EuroNCAP by some considerable number of years.

In any case, since my MX-3 was hit and didn't suffer at all and the Megane was written off with the passenger breaking her foot, I'd say it passed.

I don't know, a friend of mine had a head on with a 323F (seem like pretty similar cars) the 323 was utterly destroyed and the driver died unfortunately, the friend mainly had a broken toe and some hip troubles. His car was an '07 Audi A3.

Both were utterly written off of course, but at least the Audi was survivable...:ill:
 
@Famine:

That's true, but people here drive huge SUVs like morons, so I'm kinda happy with the trade-off of more safety mandates to low volume cars that I won't probably won't own.
 
I'm calm now with the knowledge that only arcade mode has been shown off. The information we have gotton so far is probably all we will get until TGS which is a month away. There we should get information about career mode and see some more pretty cars.
 
make it 100%, the proper thing will happen at tgs, september 25th. As in, wait :(
 
make it 100%, the proper thing will happen at tgs, september 25th. As in, wait :(
Your 10% sure? and you have a reliable source for that? If not please dont start any rumours or you will see a lot of diwapointed people again.
 
I know that everyone is mad about the damage/cars issue, but did you look at the ****ing TREES!!!.....Tree/leaf physics...check...Five years well spent.
 
game looks gorgeous tbh..

anyone that can be down hearted after that expected way way too much
 
I know that everyone is mad about the damage/cars issue, but did you look at the ****ing TREES!!!.....Tree/leaf physics...check...Five years well spent.

+1

The graphics are amazing. Can't wait to see a few of the older tracks updated to the new graphics. Yum.
 
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