Originally posted by danoff
Agreed. From my point of view it's all black magic. What gets me about the RGT is the spring stiffness. Why is it so good to have the springs so loose up front and so stiff in back?
I have a lot to learn about tuning.
the reason i have found is that the spring setting's real life application and the actual softness or stiffnes of the springs does'nt matter as much as the springs realtionship to each other.
in this car for instance, after much practice and analysis of the car, i came up with the theory that this car simply can't be stopped then turned. so i figured that i could stomp the brake while cutting the wheel to create powerslides. with the schit brakes the car has, i need to formulate a setup with radical oversteer.
if you think about it, when you turn the wheel of a car, the body rolls. that being said, if the front springs are very soft, the body will roll on the chassis and the springs will absorb quite a bit of lateral force before the front wheel slides. if at the same time, the rear springs are very stiff, when the body attemps to roll, the stiff springs can not absorb much of the lateral movement and the tires lose adhesion.
when the front outside tire absorbs the lateral movement, it transfers even more kinetic energy to the rear outside wheel. therefore, a combination of very soft front springs and very ridged rear springs will allow the rear end to break out very quickly. and since the brakes on the RGT are crap, it's important to create the slide immidiately upon application of the binders, hence the radical complete opposite spring settings.
lastly, since the RGT has such incredible power across the whole powerband, it has an uncanny ability to recover it's rear end making this the ultimate oversteering car. that's why it is my favorite car in the game. if anybody has seen any replays of my running this car at 1099hp you can see the joy it can bring.
contributing oversteer can also be gained by lowering the rear downforce (and also more top end speed). i almost never drive a car with full downforce in the rear as i play for oversteer always. infact, i basically use the tail to wag the dog when driving this magnificent ride.
if anybody needs further clarity on the concepts i brought up here, please let me know.
) But for sure, glad to have you with us. 
The times should be split into 2 categories *besides the divisions* : RUF RGT, non RUF cars.
...seems like I can't move along any faster, although I know it's possible. I just keep making the same mistakes over and over.
