Weekly Challenge Discussion Thread

[RACECAR]

Gonna be honest: The Ferrari event is frustrating. I cannot get the FXX K down enough to use it and there is no point in even trying to use my 458 as while corners (Barely), it'll get buried on the straights. Not sure what to do at this point.

 

[Carpocalypse]

Japanese FF Challenge 450 - Used Suzuki Swift, this one was pretty fun, but not too difficult.
European FR Challenge 550 - Used BMW M3 E36, a bit more difficult, but still fun
American Clubman Cup 700 - Used Chevrolet Corvette C7 ZR1 '19, a bit drifty, but not too drifty.
Vision GT Trophy - Used Suzuki Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3 Version), a bit underpowered, but really, my biggest mistake was on lap 6, where I misjudged the turn going into the straight through the tunnels, this meant I only got second.
Special Event - Used Ferrari F8 Tributo '19, This car just hates me, and I hate it back. It understeers bad, and drifts when I really don't want it to. I did try the 458 Italia GT4, but it didn't have the speed for the straights.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Gonna be honest: The Ferrari event is frustrating. I cannot get the FXX K down enough to use it and there is no point in even trying to use my 458 as while corners (Barely), it'll get buried on the straights. Not sure what to do at this point.

Try de-tuning the 458 Gr.3 (add weight first) and see how that goes on RH tyres???

 

[Carpocalypse]

Try de-tuning the 458 Gr.3 (add weight first) and see how that goes on RH tyres???

I'll try that next time.

 

[MidnightRun85]

I'll try that next time.

The "cheat mode" with the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars is that they can corner SO MUCH better than the road cars, so you'll make up loads of time cornering. De-tuning it might struggle a little on the straights, but that's why I suggest adding weight first so you still have the power for top speed on that long straight. It might take a balance of tuning down the power and adding weight and moving it around a little until you find a good balance, but that's definitely one way to get and advantage over the road cars.

 

[symustafa1996]

Not a bad set of challenges this week. Admittedly the Ferrari event is not easy, especially on the straight. Had to reduce aero a bit and play with a gearing a little bit to get even a little bit close.

Suzuka was meh with the Copen. Not the biggest fan of the car, understeers like crazy. Should have used a Honda, they all handle like a dream even in stock form.

The RB Ring was also meh. As much as I love the 300SL, its not the best choice for this event. I barely won it just through the corners, as that's the only place it can even get past the others.

Watkins Glen was a really enjoyable one. Hellcat swapped Challenger with some suspension tuning makes it into a proper hot rod that just slides past the opponents. I love this car.

I got the VGT Bugatti as a prize and have never actually driven it. A lot more than I expected, it's an incredible machine. I should drive it more often.

I decided to be a bit unorthodox and used an older Ferrari. I love how you have to tame them a bit to go fast. Tried it with the Daytona at first, but it really struggled at the straight. The Boxer finally did the job, but just barely. It made for a entertaining race, though.

Maybe you can tell by now, but I love driving the older cars just because they feel a lot lighter and less predictable at times. It's like you're always playing with the steering wheel.

 

[Moose78]

It is Friday morning. Time for a drive. Normal difficulty.

Suzuka - Toyota Aqua S '11 - Threw on some SS tires and drove to an easy win. First ticket obtained.

Red Bull Ring - BMW Z8 '01 - This one was a bit trickier. Left the car unmodified as it was already pretty close to the suggested PP. Eventually managed to catch the leader and get by for the win. Second box checked.

Watkins Glen - Chevrolet Camaro SS '16 - I threw on all the sports-level modifications and SS tires. That brought the PP up to ~630. I was worried it might not be enough, but it turned out to be just right. Fun race to the win. Second ticket obtained.

Deep Forest - Toyota FT-1 VGT - Upgraded the tires to RS. This turned out to be a fun race. I had a great battle with the Porsche, exchanging the lead a bunch of times over the last 3 laps. He'd pass me on the straights, and I'd get by him in the turns. Managed to keep the lead to the finish for the fourth check mark.

Fuji - Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 - The Dino is not the car for this race. I'd tuned it up last night to get it podium-capable at the Catalunya Ferrari Challenge, but it was a dog in this race. Couldn't make it out of last place. I thought some rubber-banding might kick in at some point, but it never did. The closest I came to overtaking anyone was on the final corner of the final lap, but the P15 car just took off down the straight. Maybe it is possible to get the Dino competitive here, but I didn't bother trying to figure out how.

Fuji - Ferrari LaFerrari '13 - Trying a different car. Added a power restrictor to get it under to 700PP. Left it on SM tires, which made cornering and braking hard to control. It flew on the straights, though. Worked my way up to P3 for the final lap, and was able to convert that into a P2 finish with a pass at the final corner. Good enough for the final ticket. Not sure if I'll go back and try for the win.

The parts ticket gave me a turbo for a GT-R. The car was a Citroen GT Road Car. I already had one, so I sold it for 424,000Cr.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

but it was a dog in this race

Sorry for OT but I sometimes read things like that here, a car is a dog or a car is a pig, but I have no idea what this means. Anyone care to explain?

 

[Vitesh Patel]

I used the 330 P4 '67 in the Ferrari event, because I could run with RH Tyres. It's still a tough race, but was easily faster than a detuned F40 or LaFerrari.

I was losing so much time in the twisty section without race tyres. Sure you're not hitting 200+ on the straight, but laptimes were so much faster.

Hope that helps,

 

[Chris30]

What a smooth race that was, I even toggled with the camera to get a different view or too, then I found it more distracting, so I went back to the camera angle I felt more comfortable with. I hate I messed up the CRB, but 7k is 7k earned. And the bad thing is I got a 6-star ticket for only tuning parts, thanks PD!

Not!!

 

[MidnightRun85]

Sorry for OT but I sometimes read things like that here, a car is a dog or a car is a pig, but I have no idea what this means. Anyone care to explain?

It's basically a comparison to racing a dog or a pig in a horse race - it can't keep up.

 

[Moose78]

Sorry for OT but I sometimes read things like that here, a car is a dog or a car is a pig, but I have no idea what this means. Anyone care to explain?

I just meant that it was severely under-powered. Not sure how common the expression is outside of my region (Ontario, Canada). Maybe it means different things elsewhere.

 

[Vitesh Patel]

Sorry for OT but I sometimes read things like that here, a car is a dog or a car is a pig, but I have no idea what this means. Anyone care to explain?

I'd say it doesn't handle very well. Don't worry about those dogs while are agile like you see at competitions where they are zig zagging between poles...no they are referring to the other ones, big, cumbersome dogs that love to just lay about. They ain't about to win any sprint races.

 

[rheinaoi]

Sorry for OT but I sometimes read things like that here, a car is a dog or a car is a pig, but I have no idea what this means. Anyone care to explain?

Usually, when someone calls a car a dog, they mean to say that the car feels very slow, sluggish and under-powered. Also, the saying could imply that a lot of effort had been expended to make the car go fast, but in spite of that effort, the car is still frustratingly slow.

When I call a car a pig, I mean to say the that car is too heavy and that it handles poorly.

I can only give assumptions for the origins of these terms. The dog expression may come from trying to train a dog to do a task, but no matter what the trainer does, the dog fails to do the task. Meanwhile pigs are seen as massive, clumsy and the very opposite of athletic. Note that this is all from a USA perspective.

Fun Note: the AMG 300 SEL 6.3 is affectionately nicknamed the Red Pig. It was huge and heavy, and many expected it to be slow, but it ended up winning against much lighter cars.

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[Chris30]

@rheinaoi That's interesting information. Didn't know that AMG car could be nicknamed the Red Pig. Of course a heavy car would be slow, all AMG cars seem to be sluggish too. Anyways, finished Event 2 with a CRB this time. You can see what car I selected for this.




Those first two turns always give me PTSD. I'm worried I'll go offtrack or miss the turn or run into somebody. And it took 2 laps before I saw that I had the fastest lap, I thought it initially showed up after the first lap? Weird.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

Thx for the explanation everyone!

And yeah, dogs can be lazy, but show them something to eat and they're suddenly pretty damn quick🐕😄

 

[Chris30]

I think the Ferrari challenge will be the big hurdle for me, it looks like it's gonna be a hard one based on the A.I. difficulty.

 

[Touring Mars]

I completed the Super Formula race in the WCs last night and won it on my 2nd attempt.

First attempt, I finished 15th and at least 20s off the leader - that was in spite of the fact that I had at least two purple laps and ended up with the Fastest Lap (ca. 1:23.5xx) - I was using RM tyres and Hard difficulty AI. The AI nerfed me coming out of the last hairpin and caused me to spin, but I was still way too slow for Hard AI in any case.

I had no choice really but to switch the AI to Normal difficulty, and this time I won quite comfortably, again on RM tyres and I managed a 1:23.3xx FL - which the AI wasn't getting anywhere near. I did nearly botch it though, as I was very tired and had a horrendous crash at the chicane of death, which cost me 9s - but aside from that, it was pretty easy.

 

[Snake55wildcat]

As always I do the weeklies in PSVR2 and in Hard AI difficulty, here's my vehicle choices for this week

Race 1 | full stock Toyota Aqua S (only tyres changed to CS Frome the default CM) - Not a bad car to drive in all honesty. If a bit wayward, I did originally complete this race with a modified Aqua, but went back to see if I could beat it with a mostly stock one, which was easier than I expected

Race 2 | moderately modified Merc 300 SL gullwing on SM tyres - this event sucks, stock M4s are by default 20 pp over the 550pp guideline performance target and there's usually at least 2 AI using an M4, making this one tougher than it needed to be.

Race 3 | highly modified Dodge Viper SRT-10 on SS tyres - okay sure it may not have the downforce capability of the older and newer vipers, but I love this gen viper too much to care. Fairly easy win which was a nice change of pace from the 2nd race

Race 4 | completely stock Skoda VGT (RM tyres) - well this is peculiar...the recent physics / pp changes have reduced its pp by 5 so now it can enter without needing slight nerfs, which made it a monster in this event, was still only able to catch the leader by lap 6 after a few mistakes though, but I do enjoy this car

Race 5 | race gearbox'd Ferrari 330 P4 (still stock RH tyres though) - I did have to add 3 kg of ballast to bring it down with a racing gearbox and downforce adjustments to make it fit within this detestable event, thankfully the car wasn't too bad to drive with the tweaks I made!

 

[bluealpine]

The ferrari challenge at Fuji is tough...
I have won the race (hard difficulty) in a F40 on Race Hard tires. The IA in the other F40 made a fast lap in 1,41, and the other one in Lafferari was faster than me straight. It was a funny close race.

 

[rheinaoi]

RACE 5 – Special Event – Ferrari Circuit Challenge at Fuji

Special Event: Yay!

It’s at Fuji: NOoooo!!

You start as far away from the leaders as the other Ferrari Challenge events. The massive Fuji straightaway gives the AI an outsized advantage and they appear to be a bit faster than in the other Ferrari Challenge events.

The opposition was on Sports Hards, with the La Ferraris and Tributos on Sports Mediums. Except for one oddball*

Round 1 - F40

My answer to a Ferrari Challenge, as always, is F40 [on Racing Tires].

I ate everyone in the corners, but the La Ferrari embarrassed me, and everyone else, on the main straightaway. Bring as much power and grip as you can. The AI gained a lot of time on me on main straightaway and the braking zone of turn 1. I gained time everywhere else. The final sector is the best place to make up time, unfortunately.

Results:

My Tune - Beware oversteer on throttle in lower gears and long braking distances. Brake early.

Round 2 - the Suffering of Dino

Good News: the Dino can win on Hard Difficulty!
Bad News: there's not much margin for error

The Dino is very underpowered. I needed at least a 3 second lead on an AI coming out of the final corner to not have to worry about getting passed on the main straight or being punted out of turn one's braking zone. Though slow, the Dino still can win all the Ferrari Challenge races definitively. But here, the Dino and I really struggled.

Results:

The physics updates made the car more twitchy, and now it has traction problems in lower gears As with many problem cars, the Dino is much less responsive to tuning.

My Compromise Tune - Beware corner exit oversteer and low speed acceleration issues. It will oversteer at the end of the braking phase if the brakes are released suddenly

*The One Oddball: One of the JGTC F40s sneaked into this event. It was the only car aside from me that ran Racing Tires (Racing Hard). And though this driver never could get into the lead, he usually set the fastest lap in the low 1:41s.

RACE 4 – VGT Cup at Deep Forest

I came prepared to beat these over-accelerating morons at their own game:

Lamborghini VGT on Racing Softs at ~830pp. I drove it like the overpowered roadcar that it is.

The fastest car – the Porsche VGT – started in pole position because of course it did. It tried to run away with the race...

The results:

It was particularly fun watching the Porsche VGT gain extra top speed every lap until it went beyond the limits of its gearbox – and it still couldn’t keep up with me. Delicious.

I may still be feeling a tiny bit vindictive because of the Silvia Sisters race at this venue...

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[ROCKET JOE]

I took an Enzo to the Fuji race which was big fun btw.
The car got a wing, racing hard tires and racing brakes and 60 kg of ballast. Everything else was stock.

That's my race of the week, definitely.

 

[Strax]

Extremely late this time around and with only 4/5 races done, but I've had some serious sleep deprivation issues this week, even the Nurburgring race was a struggle so I could only take a couple shots at Super Formula. A very quick recap:

This time around at the Sunday Cup Classic my stock A112 had its revenge, beating the DS by nothing. CRB victory.

First time driving the Granturismo S, full stock for the Euro Clubman Cup. Only managed a close P2 since the AMG was too fast on the straights.

This one was a super cheese of a race, since my Ford GT has been souped up quite a lot being a former 700pp "racecar" money grinder at Le Mans. The race was done almost immediately.

And the final event I could manage to do, the WTC900 in the 2016 GTR. Fantastic car, despite various mistakes by me it brought me victory with a 1-stop strategy on RS tires.

And now for the new week...

Some old faces in the form of the E46 M3 and the squad car, some rarely seen faces being the Swift and the Peugeot VGT (ughhhhhhh 🤢🤢), and a first drive to me in the F40.

 

[RACECAR]

RACE 5 – Special Event – Ferrari Circuit Challenge at Fuji

Special Event: Yay!

It’s at Fuji: NOoooo!!

You start as far away from the leaders as the other Ferrari Challenge events. The massive Fuji straightaway gives the AI an outsized advantage and they appear to be a bit faster than in the other Ferrari Challenge events.

The opposition was on Sports Hards, with the La Ferraris and Tributos on Sports Mediums. Except for one oddball*

Round 1 - F40
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My answer to a Ferrari Challenge, as always, is F40 [on Racing Tires].

I ate everyone in the corners, but the La Ferrari embarrassed me, and everyone else, on the main straightaway. Bring as much power and grip as you can. The AI gained a lot of time on me on main straightaway and the braking zone of turn 1. I gained time everywhere else. The final sector is the best place to make up time, unfortunately.

Results:
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My Tune - Beware oversteer on throttle in lower gears and long braking distances. Brake early.

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Well, might be time to try that F40 I made, haven't had the best setup on it so its only been a hot lapper.

*The One Oddball: One of the JGTC F40s sneaked into this event. It was the only car aside from me that ran Racing Tires (Racing Hard). And though this driver never could get into the lead, he usually set the fastest lap in the low 1:41s.
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So I wasn't seeing things in one of my previous attempts.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

Although I don't like Fuji I wanted to try the Ferrari race. And because I'm pretty awful on this track, I did it on normal difficulty.

First try was with engine swapped F40, street tune on SS tires. It was absolutely awful around corners and I had to start braking at the 250 board at the main straight. And I already cheated here 'cause I used ABS. So, no chance, no fun.

I checked the replay 'cause I wanted to know which tires the competition uses. And as @rheinaoi already mentioned, there's this one F40 on racing tires.

Doesn't make sense at all, but at least gave me an excuse to use racing tires myself.

So I went for the 430 Scuderia with a race tune on RM tires. So much better!
Was at P3 on the last lap, close behind P2 and P1 when the F12 hit me from behind at the hairpin. We both spun out but he was faster back on track. I managed to pass him in the turns before the main straight and drove like an a**hole to prevent him from passing me back on the straight. Finished P3 and that's it for me I guess 'cause I really don't feel any desire to do this again. At least for the moment.

 

[Tommy_D]

Although I don't like Fuji I wanted to try the Ferrari race. And because I'm pretty awful on this track, I did it on normal difficulty.

First try was with engine swapped F40, street tune on SS tires. It was absolutely awful around corners and I had to start braking at the 250 board at the main straight. And I already cheated here 'cause I used ABS. So, no chance, no fun.

I checked the replay 'cause I wanted to know which tires the competition uses. And as @rheinaoi already mentioned, there's this one F40 on racing tires.

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Doesn't make sense at all, but at least gave me an excuse to use racing tires myself.

So I went for the 430 Scuderia with a race tune on RM tires. So much better!
Was at P3 on the last lap, close behind P2 and P1 when the F12 hit me from behind at the hairpin. We both spun out but he was faster back on track. I managed to pass him in the turns before the main straight and drove like an a**hole to prevent him from passing me back on the straight. Finished P3 and that's it for me I guess 'cause I really don't feel any desire to do this again. At least for the moment.

I wouldn't worry about using ABS. Yeah, the car didn't come with ABS from the factory, but it also doesn't come with a flappy paddle gear box (if you use a wheel) or buttons to shift (if you use a controller).

 

[Sir Crashalot]

I wouldn't worry about using ABS. Yeah, the car didn't come with ABS from the factory, but it also doesn't come with a flappy paddle gear box (if you use a wheel) or buttons to shift (if you use a controller).

Haha, yeah, that's one way to look at it. It's really just a personal preference. When I drive just for fun I only use the assists available on the real car. But in races like this I could never be competitive in the F40 without ABS.

 

[jlbmel]

What's worse than having a parts ticket for a reward? I got a part from my daily workout ticket on BOTH of my accounts!

 

[OldandSlow]

Got a driveshaft for the Weekly and camshafts for the daily mileage.

 

[Tommy_D]

What's worse than having a parts ticket for a reward? I got a part from my daily workout ticket on BOTH of my accounts!

I have an engine ticket sitting in my rewards box that I've been waiting for the next update to open. I opened it when I got it and it's for the Audi R5-20vT-Quattro-Pikes engine. There is only 1 car that it goes in to and I've already done the swap on another car. Complete waste of an engine ticket.