What makes Christianity "better" than any other religion?

[DGB454]

Originally posted by milefile
Is what?

False

 

[milefile]

Love is personal. Which is to say false to everybody but the lover and the beloved.

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by milefile
Any other type of existence is totally undemonstrable, and even if it were, it's superiority over temporal existence would also be totally undemonstrable.

I would have to agree, unless you were witness to the accounts in the bible where people were brought back to life, and when Christ assended into the heavens. Now THAT would have been a good demonstration for ya.

 

[DGB454]

So is faith. Which is to say false to everybody but the faithfull and the one who the faithfull have faith in.

I'll have to get back to this another time. I have to fly out tonight to Atlanta.

Later

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by DGB454
So is faith. Which is to say false to everybody but the faithfull and the one who the faithfull have faith in.

If all religious types left it there I'd have nothing to object to. But they don't. They want every last mundane detail of their entire personal love for god to be legislated into one homogenous moral code for everybody. That is not personal, and I fail to see how it benefits the faithful or god.

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by milefile
If all religious types left it there I'd have nothing to object to. But they don't. They want every last mundane detail of their entire personal love for god to be legislated into one homogenous moral code for everybody. That is not personal, and I fail to see how it benefits the faithful or god.

To some extent, I would have to agree. One of God's gifts is 'free will'. That has to have a fundamental thread in serving out of love, not out of obligation. Being forced into a sanction without choice is done without just cause and should be removed. I'm not quite sure if we have that forced-on-religion today where we "HAVE" to adhere. It wasn't too long ago that Christians in China were being killed because they didn't follow the Budda faith.

But look at all the good taking God out of our schools have done for us. Look at all the good that has come out of taking God out of our home. Gosh, I get filled with warm fuzzies just thinking about it. Maybe all the killings, hate crimes, disrespectful tendencies have always been there, and I'm just now beginning to see them. No real point to any of this....Just a little food for random thoughts.

 

[Duke]

I'm sure that having God in the public schools of, oh, Montgomery Alabama made it much more peaceful and happy for the blacks to be integrated in the early Sixties.

 

[Pako]

It might have helped.....and certainly testimonies of those who were persecuted for being black, gathering strength from God should be an encouragement to a lot of people.
Where there was that much hate, there had to be a lack of God in the hearts and minds of those people persecuting the blacks, there was certainly a lack of love.


1 John 4:16 - And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.


Verse 20 reads:
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

 

[keeno_uk]

Y'know me and a guy I know who studies philosophy at an degree level have figured out what christianity is all about. Its basically the slave man's religion. think about it at christinaities beginnings in the roman empire there were a lot of people going through a lot of **** all because they were slaves maybe it was created as a a way to keep moral up for slaves when things were really bad for them also the rules that come with the religion makes u forgive or forbid anything bad to happen to you. For example the bible commands you to turn the other cheek when u get hit on the first one (take your beatings) a major example is the 10 commandments each obne stating u must be very good respectful and allow forgiveness to all wrong done to you by any person. Now to put it into one sentence "don't worry life will treat you like **** but you will be heavily rewarded in the after life and as for the people who treated you like that will burn in hell" After a long time thinking about it, it hasn't changed my thoughts and feeling about my religion but it definitly gave me a different perspective about that

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by Pako
Where there was that much hate, there had to be a lack of God in the hearts and minds of those people persecuting the blacks, there was certainly a lack of love.

But you were implicitly saying above that removing God from public schools is responsible for the increase of violence, drug use, etc. common to modern schools.

But the presence of God in those same schools did not prevent violence and hate. If you are going to assume that the removal of God caused those things, as a corollary you must assume that presence of God will prevent those things.

Of course, the undefeatable argument you have to fall back upon is to say that the failing belongs to the people, not to God, but that is evading the issue in my opinion.

At any rate, we've long since agreed to disagree and I don't need to rehash the debate unless you wish to, in which case I'm more than happy to.

 

[Pako]

Originally posted by neon_duke
But you were implicitly saying above that removing God from public schools is responsible for the increase of violence, drug use, etc. common to modern schools.

But the presence of God in those same schools did not prevent violence and hate. If you are going to assume that the removal of God caused those things, as a corollary you must assume that presence of God will prevent those things.

Of course, the undefeatable argument you have to fall back upon is to say that the failing belongs to the people, not to God, but that is evading the issue in my opinion.

At any rate, we've long since agreed to disagree and I don't need to rehash the debate unless you wish to, in which case I'm more than happy to.

We have third graders plotting to kill other students at school. We have kid with semi-automatic weapons spraying classrooms with lead then turning the gun on themselves.... But lets not allow prayer in school, it's against separation of church and state. I don't think there's a truly 'fair' solution, but taking God out of our lives doesn't seem to be working all to well. That is my only point. There is a severe moral starvation in our culture today. We have kids disrespecting adults, we have adults neglecting their children. We have liars and thieves running our government, we have corporations with no code of ethics looking to screw the next guy to make a buck. We can't even stop to help a motorist on the roadside for fear of being shot or mugged. That's just on a local level.....

Tell me, what kind of society would we have if the majority of people came to know Christ and followed his teachings? Would it be so bad if we all respected life, and loved one another? I know, it sounds so 70’s…..but we have lost a common respect for one another. Maybe because the vast majority of people out there don’t respect themselves. People are finding that self affirmations and self help tactics just don’t cut the cheese….

But your right, we have hashed over this before, and would be able to probably quote many posts from prior threads. So I’ll leave well enough alone.

I know we have always had hate crimes, I know that there has always been horrible events against humanity….., it’s just sickening to see, and that I know that is something that we can agree on.