What should I be?

[garlik_bread]

The universities say that $60K is something to expect as a starting pay, sometimes they even say $80K.

I'd be very wary of what the Universities say. I know its 10+years ago now but when I was in Uni they quoted the starting salaries as £21k ($34k), which turned out to be total rubbish. Most ended up lucky to get jobs at about £16k, myself included.

Personally, i'd say it'd be better to look for something that interests and challenges you than pigeon holing yourself into something that will earn you megabucks.

 

[Ross]

Air Traffic controller. No degree needed and only 4 or more A levels and they don't need to be in Science (although it does help) and then you have to apply to a union and do a series of tests which include reaction times, HEC and many more. After 5 years, you can work at whatever airport you want, (even overseas) and the the final step is Profit.

 

[sumbrownkid]

It's always going to be hard to land a great paying job right out of college.

Find out what you're good at, talk to some people in the fields you are interested in and learn what they did to get where they are, and earn the best grades you can. Try to get some internships too if you can.

Right after graduation, what's more important is that you get a steady job that'll start your career. From their you can work and earn your way to the top.👍

 

[Liquid]

You should be a horse.

Neigh chance.

Taking the reigns of a company isn't too hard.

Exactly!! I'm sure he will be able to keep it trotting along nicely!

Once he goes to college or uni, he'll be saddled with a lot of debt for years to come.

I think uni is the first hurdle to get over.

Being the thoroughbred he is, he will be favourite to rise above such handicaps.

Getting good grades at school is the mane thing though.

Hay guys, furlong time though, it's difficult to see exactly where one's career is going.

With any top paying job, there's usually more than one candidate so it usually ends up with everybody jockeying for position.

 

[Omnis]

You should be a horse.

Roger that.

 

[Villain]

1) It should make lots of money (6 digits)
2) It should have a good career outlook
3) The career field should be relatively safe
4) I don't like the sciences whatsoever.

Get over your fear of science and go into something related to medicine.

 

[Liquid]

Roger that.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

I don't know where you live but that is not the case at all in most places. You said you hate science though so I'm not sure why you would be considering engineering anyway.

I like solving problems and technology, that's why I was considering engineering.

Get over your fear of science and go into something related to medicine.

That's what I was thinking on doing, but its not that I have a fear for it. It seems quite safe, good pay, respected and somewhat relaxed (pretty much everyone in university in my family is in the medical field). However, I have no interest in the sciences. I know a medical career falls pretty well into the career guidlines I have said in the original post, but its just that I'm not interested in it. I'm not saying that I hate it though.

I just hope for you that whatever employement you seek your futur boss doesn't find this thread as it seems your just after the money.

I'm not completely after the money, although it is quite important. I also care if its what I like, what it requires etc.But in the end, money is what drives the world. Am I right?

I understand that I won't get 6 figures as soon as I come out of school, but I still would like to achieve it sometime in life when its not too late.

Going back to the lawyer idea, anyone a lawyer here? How is it like? What type of law is the best to study?

I got a counselling appointment at 8:30 tommorow morning, lets see what the counsellor says.

 

[lbsf1]

I'm not completely after the money, although it is quite important. I also care if its what I like, what it requires etc.But in the end, money is what drives the world. Am I right?

Its fair enough to want to earn good money, however your idea that it is all that drives the world is quite wrong. Motorsport wouldn't exist if it was only for money, you CAN'T make money in motorsport (apart from maybe manufacturers selling more cars) so why would people bother, the answer is because its a passion. People with well paying jobs get their because they have passion. You don't seem to have passion for any job so it kinda makes it difficult because you will therefore have little motivation to work at that field and build yourself up to the top (if its possible) from the bottom where you won't be earning great money.

If you only want to make money then business if the world for you, investor possibly since making money is all that you and your old aim?? However that is far from garunteed money as stock markets can go up or down.

THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN MAKE EASY, ASSURED, LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY.



EDIT: Hope the counselling goes well and you get some good guidance on possible paths you can take and what you want to do.

 

[Clark]

Billionaire.

 

[ZohsixGT5]

I remember the days when I thought everyone made 6 figs right out of college too. Reality happened.

 

[Famine]

There's a reason I said this earlier:

1) It should make lots of money
3) The career field should be relatively safe

Pick one.

People spend small amounts of money on things that generate little reward. They spend large amounts of money on things that generate lots of reward. But things that generate little reward are much less risky than things that generate lots of reward. The same thing applies to employers.

You want a "safe" job? You can have one, but they won't pay you well. You'll be doing relatively dull things that you can get wrong a few times a day but cause no harm and you'll generate a lot of wealth for other people. There are long careers here - most folk don't move on and up.

You want a well paid job? You can have one, but you'll need a lot of training to get there and if you screw up even once in your lifetime, at best you'll lose your job - and usually someone will die. There are long careers here, but only for the select few who are excellent at the job and never fail - the longer you're in the job, the more likely you are to fail tomorrow. And with that comes stress - a whole boatload of it.


Every money-spinning career above is a killer, both of the people in it through stress and of the consequences when you fail. Civil engineering, law, medicine, air traffic control... they pay well and they're as safe as scorpion underpants - one slip and you're gone, usually along with a whole bunch of other dudes.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Find something you enjoy doing and get really good at it. If it makes money, you will have cool things and will be able to do fun things, if it doesn't make you rich then at least you will still be happy.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

@Famine

Well, I guess taking the risky path would be the better one. I mean, hundreds of millions of people do it, so why can't I?

You don't seem to have passion for any job so it kinda makes it difficult because you will therefore have little motivation to work at that field and build yourself up to the top (if its possible) from the bottom where you won't be earning great money.

Its not that I don't have a passion for a job, I am interested in Engineering, Business and Law. The issue is that I have no idea what I should do, because I'm not sure if a career is worth it or not, and which one I could be better at.

Its fair enough to want to earn good money, however your idea that it is all that drives the world is quite wrong.

Well, it drives quite a noticeable bit of it.

 

[lbsf1]

Its not that I don't have a passion for a job, I am interested in Engineering, Business and Law. The issue is that I have no idea what I should do, because I'm not sure if a career is worth it or not, and which one I could be better at.

Well, it drives quite a noticeable bit of it.

So far you in this thread you haven't shown any passion for those jobs you have just shown that you are interested in them because of the good pay. If you were passionate about a career then you wouldn't be questioning if its worth it or not, you would know that is what you want to do.

Whilst money is VERY important you won't find anyone in a well paid job who got there without passion or drive in that area. By definition to be successful you must have beaten others who are also striving for this success, this success is not garunteed by any means. These other people will want this success more than you because have passion for the job aswell as the money and thus they will naturally work harder to achieve this.

You also need to find what you are good at, you said you hate science so engineering at a high level seems out of the question to me due to the extremely complex physics. Law is very difficult to get to the top of due to how competitive it is, so once again no garuntee of success there. Business would suit you best because it simply is about money, however once again if you want to be the person making good money you have to be skilled at your job, take risks (which can go badly aswell) and above all of this be better than others who also want that money since otherwise you will last 4-5mins in the competition of buisness.

 

[Liquid]

Well, I guess taking the risky path would be the better one. I mean, hundreds of millions of people do it, so why can't I?

wut?

Has it not occured to you that if there was a top paying, very easy job that we'd all want it? Which would paradoxically make it a very difficult job to get, if it was so sought after.

Do what you're good at or do what makes you happy. If you can combine the two, then you're a lucky man.

 

[lbsf1]

wut?

Has it not occured to you that if there was a top paying, very easy job that we'd all want it? Which would paradoxically make it a very difficult job to get, if it was so sought after.

Do what you're good at or do what makes you happy. If you can combine the two, then you're a lucky man.

I don't think he has quite grasped exactly this and to be honest I'm slightly running out of hope that he will.

 

[Famine]

@Famine

Well, I guess taking the risky path would be the better one. I mean, hundreds of millions of people do it, so why can't I?

No. Very few people do it. Very few of those succeed. Those that fail do so catastrophically - either through taking blame for the failure of others or through the consequences of their own failure.

Hundreds of millions of people take the safe path and most of those remain safe.


Whichever you take is your choice, but the point is that you cannot have both a high salary and a safe career.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Whichever you take is your choice, but the point is that you cannot have both a high salary and a safe career.

I'm not trying to challenge your statement here, but can you explain how (for example) a doctor doesn't have a safe career and a high salary?

 

[Clark]

Because he may get something wrong one day and end up killing somebody.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Because he may get something wrong one day and end up killing somebody.

But how likely is that to happen? Isn't that why there's job training and school?

 

[Clark]

Because nothing is risk free. Especially not when you're charged with somebody's health and wellbeing.

 

[F1GTR]

Become a deep sea welder.

 

[Famine]

I'm not trying to challenge your statement here, but can you explain how (for example) a doctor doesn't have a safe career and a high salary?

A doctor is always one tablet or injection away from killing someone - and when that happens there's suspension and criminal prosecution, usually with the words "million dollars" in it.

And even when they don't kill someone through their actions, they see a crapload of death - and always wonder if they could have done one thing different to prevent it.

If you want a list of very well paid jobs that are immensely unsafe, I'd be nailing doctor in the top five.

But how likely is that to happen?

Incredibly.

Incidentally, are you aware that the suicide rate amongst junior and trainee doctors is three times the national average? Do you know why?

 

[Small_Fryz]

Become a deep sea welder.

 

[Schwartz]

I too, would be laughing if I got the six figure salary of an underwater welder.

 

[nick09]

It pays well because it's a dangerous job and you need to have welding and diving experience. Those masks are dark enough during regular welding, imagine doing that work while underwater in dark waters and having to monitor what depth you are at while welding.

 

[Akmuq]

Sounds like you wanna be a politician or else a sports star.

 

[Small_Fryz]

I too, would be laughing if I got the six figure salary of an underwater welder.

Yes but you couldn't have picked a more dangerous job even if you tried. Which is why I found it funny

 

[Schwartz]

I think by "relatively safe career field," he meant least likely to lose your job, not least likely to lose your life. But then again, if you die, you lose your job as well, unless there is an opening in a less physically demanding position that a corpse could fill.

Edit: No pun intended. But I'm still proud of myself.