Who Do You Want To Be The Next President Of The US?

[Delphic Reason]

Washington State had an 86% voter turn out... I think that's a record for this state...

CNN says:

Bush: 249

Kerry: 211

 

[Solid Fro]

CNN, for some reason, is still not counting Ohio. Bush won Ohio.



Bush 269

Kerry 221

 

[Delphic Reason]

CNN, for some reason, is still not counting Ohio. Bush won Ohio.



Bush 269

Kerry 242

There are still a possible 600k votes outstanding in Ohio... Some stations have given it to Kerry...

We are not going to have a result tonight....

Then of course there are the immanent recounts....

EDIT: CNN says:

Bush: 249

Kerry: 242!!!

as of 11:40 Pacific Standard Time

 

[Solid Lifters]

It looks like deja vu. Edwards came out to the fans waiting for the word, and said, "Wait unitl every vote is counted." So, it looks like we wont find out who gets Ohio until tomorrow. Sorry, but Ohio is too close to call. Though, if Kerry wins Ohio, which would hurt Bush, he still is not a for sure winner. Bush could still lose Ohio, and still win the election. So, it looks better for Bush, but it's still too early to say for sure.

 

[Delphic Reason]

It looks like deja vu. Edwards came out to the fans waiting for the word, and said, "Wait unitl every vote is counted." So, it looks like we wont find out who gets Ohio until tomorrow. Sorry, but Ohio is too close to call. Though, if Kerry wins Ohio, which would hurt Bush, he still is not a for sure winner. Bush could still lose Ohio, and still win the election. So, it looks better for Bush, but it's still too early to say for sure.

Agreed...

It is very close... We may not know for sure until tomorrow, or even 10 days or so...

 

[Solid Lifters]

Nevada Governor just declared the state for Bush. It's now 254 to 242 which means the best Kerry can do is 269. If that happens, it means the HOR would get to vote who becomes the President, because of the tie. Because there are more Republicans than Democrats in the HOR, it's safe to say Bush will continue to be the President of the United States.

Bush wins!

Iowa = 7 Bush leading by over 20,000 votes with 98% reporting.
Ohio = 20 Bush leading by 144,000 votes. 99% reporting.
New Mexico = 5 Bush leading by 17,000 votes with 96% reporting.
Wisconson = 11 Kerry leads.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Neveda Governor just declared the state for Bush. It's now 254 to 242 which means the best Kerry can do is 269. If that happens, it means the HOR would get to vote who becomes the President, because of the tie. Because there are more Republicans than Democrats in the HOR, it's safe to say Bush will continue to be the President of the United States.

Bush wins!

Sorry, but it's still way too early to tell... We have a possible 11 days to wait before getting a total count...

CNN is still saying 249 to 242... in favor of Bush...

 

[Solid Lifters]

Sorry, but it's still way too early to tell... We have a possible 11 days to wait before getting a total count...

CNN is still saying 249 to 242... in favor of Bush...

No. Ohio Governor just stated that Bush won Ohio, and that Kerry should concede. The votes that have not been counted, wont surpass the vote lead held by Bush. So, it looks like Bush has Ohio and that means he wins. The "11 days to wait" no longer matters.

 

[Delphic Reason]

No. Ohio Governor just stated that Bush won Ohio, and that Kerry should concede. The votes that have not been counted, wont surpass the vote lead held by Bush. So, it looks like Bush has Ohio and that means he wins. The "11 days to wait" no longer matters.

lol....

We'll see...

 

[Solid Lifters]

lol....

We'll see...

You do know the votes not yet counted for Ohio are mostly Republican areas of the state, right? What are the chances of all estimated 140,000 plus votes yet to be counted will go to Kerry? None. Bush got Ohio, and Nevada and that ends it.

But, Kerry wont concede, I bet. But, it's over for him much like it was for Gore.

 

[Goomba]

I can't believe that Bush has the popular vote by so much.

What I'm really surprized at is that Nader didn't win!

 

[Arwin]

I think Kerry will concede tomorrow. Congress and the Senate are now both 'hostile'. I wouldn't want to clean up Bush' mess under those circumstances and be held accountable for not delivering after those four years.

 

[ledhed]

BUSH WINS

 

[Solid Fro]

It's funny how CNN (and silviadrifter) still refuse to put Ohio in Bush's win column. 100% of the precincts have reported in. Bush won, get over it.

Bush 269

Kerry 242

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Woo Hoo! Another four years of looking over my shoulder in fear of terrorism! Break out the bubbly!

 

[Goomba]

It's funny how CNN (and silviadrifter) still refuse to put Ohio in Bush's win column. 100% of the precincts have reported in. Bush won, get over it.

Bush 269

Kerry 242

You seem more assured than Bush himself.

 

[Solid Fro]

Yeah, I am. The math doesn't add up for Kerry.

Bush has also received the most votes for the popular vote in American history. Over 57 million votes for Bush.

 

[Solid Fro]

Does any know how to say "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" in French?

 

[Pupik]

So it was quite close again.

Well, at least this time Bush won the popular vote and the individual states, there can be no real argument there. Kerry should concede, unless he can somehow prove that 4 million dead people "voted" for Bush.

Here's to an interesting 2008 election, in which both major parties have to introduce new candidates. And maybe the Libertarian Party can have a chance at getting 5% of the popular vote, too...

 

[ledhed]

If you consider losing by over 3 million votes close...but the more interesting thing is the swap between last year and this among the democrats opinions of the electorial collage..hehehehe talk about iriony. Then you have the desperate ones looking for miricle provisional ballots that will wipe away a 144,000 vote margin in Ohio. think about that stretch. Not only would you need to have 144,001 ballots but they all would have to be valid and they all would have to be for Kerry.

 

[TheCracker]

its a sad day for the world

 

[milefile]

Except the 57 million people who voted for Bush, the 25 million he liberated in Afganistan, and the 50 million in Iraq, and people who use periods.

It is a sad day for Bin Laden, Kerry and his monkey, and the liberal vandals, though. Better luck next time.

 

[Tacet_Blue]

its a sad day for the world

Sad day for your little world, but there are millions who voted FOR Bush, its a democratic election...the majority wins

btw Its not quite over yet, I'm lookng at 254 : 242 with a predicted 269 for Bush...but isn't the target 270. White House is convinced of a Bush Victory, but I wouldn't start celebrating just yet.

@Do You Race: Kerry made a big deal about leaving the troops in Iraq and being tough on terrorism, so why do think you wouldn't have to look over your shoulder, with him elected?

 

[milefile]

@Do You Race: Kerry made a big deal about leaving the troops in Iraq and being tough on terrorism, so why do think you wouldn't have to look over your shoulder, with him elected?

Because if we just stop pissing them off they'll all go face Mecca and leave us alone. Remember? Bush is responsible for terrorism.

 

[Tacet_Blue]

The main argument for Kerry (ignoring the schoolyard politics and the name calling) is that the world would be safer from terrorism with him as President.

How he managed to make people think this without ever actually explaining how, is magnificent campaigning.

A lot of people say that Kerry is a great negotiator, better than Bush, but can you really negotiate with terrorists, would it have any effect.

Case in point: Margaret Hassan, an Irish national with an Iraqi husband, kidnapped in Iraq and threatened with beheading. She is also the senior representative of the largest aid charity working in Iraq, and has helped Iraqi's for 30 years. So you think that as soon as her captors realise who she is they would release her?...NO, they like the headlines, they like the fear...I can't see anyone being able to negotiate any meaningful deal with a terrorist.

 

[milefile]

Not negotiating with terrorists has always been US policy. It's not something Bush came up with. It's ingrained into the minds of America. We've all heard it a thousand times. For Kerry to barely stop short of promising to negotiate with terrorists was probably a bad move in the last analysis.

I don't see how anyone could believe terrorists would leave us alone if Kerry was elected. They'd just play him like an accordion, and with him the country.

 

[K_Speed]

I can already see the european people laughing at the US, some of them concerned. Terror will rise even worse when Bush elected. The US is a damn strong country with a whole lot of power. But Bush wont use these powers responsibly.

If I was an american living in the US, I wouldnt want a "war minded" (as he said himself) to be my president and to run my country. Sometimes war is neccesary, but this time it wasnt and I dont think the world can trust this man to lead this kinda of a country.

But its up to you people over there. We over here will just laugh, and think how these smart people who invented pretty much everything thats on this earth for voting such an complete, idiot.


Oh boy, theres gonna be so much contreversy.....and were gonna have to talk about it at school for hours


DOH

 

[Tacet_Blue]

I wouldnt want a "war minded" (as he said himself)

No he didn't. He said he is a President with war on his mind, not the same thing. The country is at war...he is the president...bit odd if he didn't have war on his mind when making decisions.
He also said that he didn't want to be a war President, but that is the situation he finds himself in

Oh boy, theres gonna be so much contreversy.....and were gonna have to talk about it at school for hours
DOH

oooh controversy in the playground. That will shake the world

 

[Ghost C]

I can already see the european people laughing at the US, some of them concerned. Terror will rise even worse when Bush elected. The US is a damn strong country with a whole lot of power. But Bush wont use these powers responsibly.

If I was an american living in the US, I wouldnt want a "war minded" (as he said himself) to be my president and to run my country. Sometimes war is neccesary, but this time it wasnt and I dont think the world can trust this man to lead this kinda of a country.

But its up to you people over there. We over here will just laugh, and think how these smart people who invented pretty much everything thats on this earth for voting such an complete, idiot.


Oh boy, theres gonna be so much contreversy.....and were gonna have to talk about it at school for hours


DOH

Wow. You should leave the opinions forum alone, you're apparently not informed well enough to make an opinion, so you follow all the other "europeans laughing at us" because you think you're cool.

In other news, there's supposed to be only 135,000 provisionals in Ohio uncounted. Provided that they were all votes for Kerry (Not possible), he'd still lose by around 1,000 votes. Even the liberal media has accepted that Kerry lost. In fact, I think the only ones who haven't accepted Kerry's defeat are Kerry and Edwards.

 

[Tacet_Blue]

In other news, there's supposed to be only 135,000 provisionals in Ohio uncounted. Provided that they were all votes for Kerry (Not possible), he'd still lose by around 1,000 votes. Even the liberal media has accepted that Kerry lost. In fact, I think the only ones who haven't accepted Kerry's defeat are Kerry and Edwards.

I'm looking at Bush being 150,000 votes in front at Ohio, so even with ALL 135,000 votes, thats still 15,000 short.

Oh.. and they are taking bets on Hilary Clinton for 2008 Thats a bit of a dig at Kerry I think.

Odd that such an "unpopular" and "stupid" man like Bush can see off such a strong candidate like Kerry, with the biggest voting turn out since 1968.