Who will not buy GT6?

[Yardang]

I am surprised at the amount of people that act like gt5 is a waste of money. You can't tell me that you haven't blown $50-$60 on a terrible game at some point in your gaming career. Gt5 is not one of those terrible games that gets shelved[...]

Yes, I've surely blown my money on games that didn't live up to my expectations. Mostly recently, that game was Ace Combat Assault Horizon. Long story short, it wasn't like the past games which I loved to death and the PR guys weren't exactly right about the scripted events being optional. As a result, that game has been permanently shelved.

GT5 wasn't as disappointing as the new Ace Combat (AC:AH was a slap..punch in the face), but I feel it's not too far away. The game just doesn't feel complete compared to past iterations and after six years, it still feels rushed. I sometimes hop on GT5 every blue moon when an update is out or if I get an urge, but I only last maybe an hour before remembering why it's collecting dust in the first place.

If PD can include MANY of these TGS 2006 planned features, then I think we'd all be a bit happier and optimistic.

You're right. If PD can add all the features (and more) they presented at TGS 2006, I'd have some hope for GT6. Sad thing is, a lot of those left out features probably would have given me a compelling reason to turn on GT5 more often.

 

[1241Penguin]

I am surprised at the amount of people that act like gt5 is a waste of money. You can't tell me that you haven't blown $50-$60 on a terrible game at some point in your gaming career.

It's really getting close to being shelved. If I can manage to get rFactor to work properly on my computer, then it's good bye Gran Turismo, possibly forever.

Gt5 is not one of those terrible games that gets shelved, sure there are improvements that could / should be made but it still a game that most people play almost everyday a year and a half after it's release. That is sort of something considering the short attention span of games these days. Most people are conditioned to buy the "new" version of whatever game they are playing every year.

You speak as if your opinion on a game reflect that of everyone else's.

 

[Tornado]

That's the problem, it's not that different, but the gaming landscape, racing in particular, certainly is.

And the ways that it is different, it manages to be inferior more often than not.

 

[KWZX10]

I don't really understand why you detest GT5 that much. It isn't that different from the previous games. Single player may suck, but there's lots of fun to be had online.

Here, that's the real problem.

I've played so many hours with the old titles, without an online mode.
Now, gt5 and many other "new generation" games, they are almost useless without the online component (one example, battlefield 3, but that's obviosly oriented on the online gaming so it's ok... i guess), not enough effort in single player.
So yeah, gt5 now is different: We don't have a solid single player anymore.

I've played with gt4, without any online feature, since the release date until...well, basically before gt5 came out. Never tired of it.

Now? Well, for example i remember that, when i've changed house in 2011, we had problems with the internet provider, so basically i didn't had internet for 2 months.
No gt5. Some laps around and random races but nothing else. Really boring without online, and this never happened with the old titles.
When i buyed gt5 i expected a good game like before, and i didn't had a decent connectiona at the time, it was a little frustrating. The lack of this game totally kills it if you don't have internet.

That's an important point. We need a good game, and then the online part.
Because, yes i have fun online, but it really far from "perfection", and many people stil have major problems, so you can't even say that they worked on the online too much to work enough on the offline side, like in the case of online oriented game .
Pd, but not only them, need to realize this, single player is still important, if you're not an online oriented game.

Not a waste of money? True, in my case, i can play online and have everything. But someone without internet? A big fail.
Think about no patch, everyone in that situation would quit really fast this game.

 

[Samus]

Quite simply take away all online capabilities from GT5 and what are you left with? Not a lot at all.

 

[KWZX10]

Quite simply take away all online capabilities from GT5 and what are you left with? Not a lot at all.

...You ruined all the effort i've put in my long post with this short version, are you happy now?

LOL joking. Anyway yeah, it's pretty simple.

 

[MadmuppGT]

I dont really play online with many games, I'm old school till the end, If I want multiplayer it will be a mate sat on the couch with me, not some whiney kid half the world away who cant play the game and rage quits.

I've played GT5 every day almost since release and only stopped playing it a few weeks back... which is pretty good going for a game... but it does lack the excitement, its looking really old these days, especially the car list.

The GT series is in many ways like an old dog youve had since it was a pup, youve watched it from that first day you brought it home and it was new and nervous... then grew more confident and learned some new tricks, Then your dog got to GT3, and it was doing amazing tricks, you would be playing with it everyday and going on adventures new everyday, spending time with your dog never got old or tiring, Then your dog started to calm down a little, it still had its old tricks, it could still run around the park like before but looked slightly less boundy, less alive...
then we come to GT5 where it seems all your dog can muster is a gentle walk around the park or relaxing infront of the fire, sure youve not got a dog walkers club to go to where you can hang out with other dog owners, but you long for those energetic days, just you, your dog... and the endless hours.

I think you'll all agree that I hope GT6 doesnt turn out to be the installment were we have to take old GT dog outside behind the shed with a shotgun under our arm.

 

[Samus]

...You ruined all the effort i've put in my long post with this short version, are you happy now?

LOL joking. Anyway yeah, it's pretty simple.

Haha, sorry fella. It really is that simple though, online was meant to enhance the GT experience, not be the only worthwhile part of it with any longevity.

I dont really play online with many games, I'm old school till the end, If I want multiplayer it will be a mate sat on the couch with me, not some whiney kid half the world away who cant play the game and rage quits.

Same here, I very rarely play any game online, no matter how good it is. That's just my preference so I need a good single player game.

I think you'll all agree that I hope GT6 doesnt turn out to be the installment were we have to take old GT dog outside behind the shed with a shotgun under our arm.

Indeed. There are a few must haves additions/features in GT6 for me to buy it.

 

[Yardang]

Quite simply take away all online capabilities from GT5 and what are you left with? Not a lot at all.

No online capabilities at all? GT5 without any patches would be really rough to play. If you're including patches/DLC, then it still would be a very dull experience without a multiplayer mode.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I'm not sure what Kaz's vision is for Gran Turismo. I really don't.

BUT! If I could make an ideal GT game, and let's call it GT6 for argument's sake, it would be an automotive playground.

Imagine a 60 year old man who would LOVE to paint his classic Mustang the same way he owned it in 1966.

Imagine a 15 year old boy who LOVES art and could create his own wonderful liveries.

Imagine a hard-core racer that could spend endless hours in his official race team/club.

Imagine a casual fan that just wants to roam around in his favorite exotic cars and not race anybody.

Imagine a hard-core tuner that could fiddle with engines swaps and other mechanical changes.

That's my vision of GT. And right now, GT has mastered none of those.

 

[Samus]

No online capabilities at all? GT5 without any patches would be really rough to play. If you're including patches/DLC, then it still would be a very dull experience without a multiplayer mode.

Well GT1-4 had none of that, so yes. But either way yes, you're not left with much. Remember GT4 was originally meant to have online capabilities? Well that was meant to be an addition to the single player game, which is exactly what should have happened with GT5.

Offline game as good as GT4 + online game, not offline game worse than GT4 + online. It's a good job GT4 didn't end with online capabilities because if it did that would have just made GT5 look even worse.

 

[thelvynau]

I am surprised at the amount of people that act like gt5 is a waste of money. You can't tell me that you haven't blown $50-$60 on a terrible game at some point in your gaming career. Gt5 is not one of those terrible games that gets shelved, sure there are improvements that could / should be made but it still a game that most people play almost everyday a year and a half after it's release. That is sort of something considering the short attention span of games these days. Most people are conditioned to buy the "new" version of whatever game they are playing every year.

Good point but gt5 is enough to question paying full price at launch as far as bang for your buck gt5 fell short.

Having said that I won't say I didn't and still don't enjoy playing it I just don't think it was worth the money hence why I'm waiting for gt6 to go down in price.

 

[ch3ng]

I dont know. I will decide it after i saw the competition for GT6 and GT6 itself.
50:50

 

[ItsHim]

I'm not sure what Kaz's vision is for Gran Turismo. I really don't.

(...)

That's my vision of GT. And right now, GT has mastered none of those.

Hate to use the F word, but you just summed up the customising options of, you know, that ***** game.

Nothing wrong with that, but camouflaging it as a "vision" is a bit rich. Just be straight and say you'd like GT to be a ***** clone so for whatever reason you don't have to switch consoles and buy a 360.

I still have mine btw, so I might give the evil half-twin a chance next year when T10 releases a new iteration.

 

[King1982]

If PD can include MANY of these TGS 2006 planned features, then I think we'd all be a bit happier and optimistic.

hahaha omg i almost forgot about this one

Livery editor?
Teambuilder? hahaha

 

[seba-sw]

Am i the only one who wasn't disappointed with GT5? Yeah there were features cut but to me it's understandable those guy's are only human. It takes time to develop a totally new engine with new physics and weather on a totally new platform back then. I just ended my final project for my bachelor and there were things i would like to have done but did not have any time for it because of unforeseen circumstances so i understand it all to well

Chill and enjoy the game. So yes i will be buying gt6 because i know i'm going to enjoy it.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

In retrospect of GT5, I believe PD was too overwhelmed with all the next gen expanse of capability, and the work load that came with them.
Other projects, such as GT on PSP further depleted already limited resources.

As a result, the overall concept, content, structure, balance, and cohesiveness suffered.
All the foundational parts for greatness, that made previous GTs above and beyond anything else.

I sincerly hope and expect PD to redeem these qualities in GT6.

Of course the eventual reality, maybe something else.

I'm not sure what Kaz's vision is for Gran Turismo. I really don't.

BUT! If I could make an ideal GT game, and let's call it GT6 for argument's sake, it would be an automotive playground.

Imagine a 60 year old man who would LOVE to paint his classic Mustang the same way he owned it in 1966.

Imagine a 15 year old boy who LOVES art and could create his own wonderful liveries.

Imagine a hard-core racer that could spend endless hours in his official race team/club.

Imagine a casual fan that just wants to roam around in his favorite exotic cars and not race anybody.

Imagine a hard-core tuner that could fiddle with engines swaps and other mechanical changes.

That's my vision of GT. And right now, GT has mastered none of those.

Here in lies the real wildcard.
The expanse of capabilities, plus the unknown of Kaz's vision.

Like the previous GTs, we will have to wait for GT6 to find out.

 

[thelvynau]

Am i the only one who wasn't disappointed with GT5? Yeah there were features cut but to me it's understandable those guy's are only human. It takes time to develop a totally new engine with new physics and weather on a totally new platform back then. I just ended my final project for my bachelor and there were things i would like to have done but did not have any time for it because of unforeseen circumstances so i understand it all to well

Chill and enjoy the game. So yes i will be buying gt6 because i know i'm going to enjoy it.

Not that I was disapponted just thinking it wasn't worth the price tag given the fact it wasn't finished on release and other issues but overall not disappointed.

 

[mjm23race]

I am sorry I jumped to the conclusion that "most" people enjoyed / enjoy gt5.

Wow, a lot of you seem really jaded! I thought the scrutinizers were just sprinkled in throughout the community, I guess there are a lot more than I thought.

 

[thelvynau]

I am sorry I jumped to the conclusion that "most" people enjoyed / enjoy gt5.

Wow, a lot of you seem really jaded! I thought the scrutinizers were just sprinkled in throughout the community, I guess there are a lot more than I thought.

If you read my earlier post you will see I said I still enjoy gt5 my issue isn't lack of enjoyment just stating it wasn't worth the full price.

 

[250 GTO]

Yes I will buy GT6...
I was massively disappointed in GT5 when it was released, it's a much better game now than it was, but it is in no way a perfect game, and the fact that it got so many perfect/near perfect review scores when it was first released is beyond me. However PD have had more time to work with the PS3 system now, so Gran Turismo 6 can only be a better game... I just hope they won't stall time by making a GT6 Prologue first...

And then if my playstation could refrain from breaking down on release day like it did with GT5, that would just be swell... worst month ever!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

If all the cars are not premium in GT6 I will not buy it. I did not buy GT5 because of this reason (ended up being a christmas gift). If all the cars are premium in GT6 then I will buy it with my own money for sure. But GT6 is a long long long long long way away. If it took 5-6 years for the 20% completed GT5 then its going to be at least another 5-6 years for GT6.

 

[vandaliser]

I don't know why anyone bothers replying to vandaliser, his posts are always utterly ridiculous it's not even worth it.

I dont know why anyone bothers to respond to yours. Complaining like a fisherwoman all day long on an internet message board about a 2 year old game surely has to tire you at some point? Or is it your life is empty when you switch off that computer of yours?

Wow, I hope situations that require logic or rational thinking never frequent your life.

Actually I challenge you to explain to all of us how that works. Since you wont try though, why troll on this forum all the time with you fanatic love of all that is GT/PD?

fanatic love? hardly. I spend £35 quid on this game and i got my money's worth. May be you did not. But i have. So i will buy the next installment regardless of what anyone thinks. And that will continue until the day PD disappoints me with a **** game.

But you and the rest of the negative nancies are welcome to buy something else. After all there are other alternatives out there. It's a simple matter of putting your money where your mouth is and moving on.



To the rest of the haters. Let me explain it this way. I was a huge and i mean a huge rpg fan. The day i bought final fantasy 7 was the day i got hooked in rpgs like never before. Subsequently i played 8,9 and 10 with equal fervour.

When number 12 was released and i bought it i was struck on how mediocre it was. It was fair to say that it was a **** game and from then on i never touched another ff game.

But here's the main difference between you and me. I didnt log in to FFfan sites moaning and thrashing the game. I didnt complain non stop on how ripped off i felt or how mch i waited for it or how i hated wada for ****ing up final fantasy.

No i simply moved on and played other things. Perhaps you should do the same. Game is ****. Fair enough. Not every game is lovable to everyone else. But if you have a an emotional intelligence beyond a teenager then after a few grumbles you will pack off and move on.

I mean i am not a heavy user on gtplanet and i come in here occasionally to see any news or something new. But one thing you can count on is seeing the same folks with same user ids moaning and complaining. Bloody hell. Have you got something new to say for once? I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful or anything in that fashion but my word it's tiresome.

People often say that you project your mental state on to the internet especially on forums and messageboards. I hope that is not true for some folks on here and i sincerely mean that

 

[mr_serious]

..big rant

Why do you care? Are you responsible for GT5?

 

[aadil717]

Why do you care? Are you responsible for GT5?

He/she cares because everyone cares where their hard earned money goes.

 

[Horde_R35]

Will buy it at the 1st day of release.

 

[Fred la Poignee]

1st day of release of course, (almost) whatever it is

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Most racing game reviews are written by people that aren't solely into racing games.

Even going by reviews from a site like ours isn't reliable. There are going to be fanboys and haters and everything in between. The only person that can give an accurate review is yourself.

Yes but you see that number count under my name? That count shows that I spend far too much time on here- I nearly contribute ten posts a day- and to get to the point, I know who is a biased fan and who is realistic. Thus this is a place you can trust especially if you read through the several GT5 forum threads like this one. Also just because those people aren't into racing on certain review sites, doesn't mean they cant distinguish the fact. I don't want to hear about such and such game having "soul" like GT5 was said to have, that is an opinion, not fact. The facts are what will help me if I buy or don't buy this next GT game.

To be honest I'm the only person that can give an accurate review? Depends on how you view the world, if your selfish and personally bias then yes only I can tell myself what is good or not. Now if I'm willing to be open minded (which I am on things I'm beginning to learn about) I will listen to the people that put for whole hearted reviews and then decide if I go forth or not.

 

[axl54]

All I can say Vandaliser is thank your lucky stars you managed to avoid Final Fantasy 13,
the first 70% was genuinely, painfully bad. My biggest disappointment this gen, followed (at some distance) by Gt5, though it's gotten a lot better since launch.

 

[CSLACR]

I don't really understand why you detest GT5 that much. It isn't that different from the previous games. Single player may suck, but there's lots of fun to be had online.

You answered your own question here btw.

GT5 is basically as "new" from GT4/5P as most Madden games are from one year to the next.
The prime difference is those Madden games come out every year, GT5 took much longer, only to be the same amount of progress as 1-2 years of normal games.

I dont know why anyone bothers to respond to yours. Complaining like a fisherwoman all day long on an internet message board about a 2 year old game surely has to tire you at some point? Or is it your life is empty when you switch off that computer of yours?




fanatic love? hardly. I spend £35 quid on this game and i got my money's worth. May be you did not. But i have. So i will buy the next installment regardless of what anyone thinks. And that will continue until the day PD disappoints me with a **** game.

But you and the rest of the negative nancies are welcome to buy something else. After all there are other alternatives out there. It's a simple matter of putting your money where your mouth is and moving on.



To the rest of the haters. Let me explain it this way. I was a huge and i mean a huge rpg fan. The day i bought final fantasy 7 was the day i got hooked in rpgs like never before. Subsequently i played 8,9 and 10 with equal fervour.

When number 12 was released and i bought it i was struck on how mediocre it was. It was fair to say that it was a **** game and from then on i never touched another ff game.

But here's the main difference between you and me. I didnt log in to FFfan sites moaning and thrashing the game. I didnt complain non stop on how ripped off i felt or how mch i waited for it or how i hated wada for ****ing up final fantasy.

No i simply moved on and played other things. Perhaps you should do the same. Game is ****. Fair enough. Not every game is lovable to everyone else. But if you have a an emotional intelligence beyond a teenager then after a few grumbles you will pack off and move on.

I mean i am not a heavy user on gtplanet and i come in here occasionally to see any news or something new. But one thing you can count on is seeing the same folks with same user ids moaning and complaining. Bloody hell. Have you got something new to say for once? I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful or anything in that fashion but my word it's tiresome.

People often say that you project your mental state on to the internet especially on forums and messageboards. I hope that is not true for some folks on here and i sincerely mean that

So in this post, you complain that people complain, you complain about people complaining about a 2 year old game for the past 2 years, in which you've constantly complained that people complained.
See anything wrong there?

You also repeatedly state GT5 is the best out there, yet here you imply it's very possible if you played since GT1 you might feel exactly the same about GT5 as others.

If you didn't go on message boards for that game, why are you on the message boards for this game? I don't go on message boards for other games at all either. Ever.

So yeah, once you get past the blatant hypocrisy of this post, you kind of have a point. The fact you don't realize the point is as much to be made of yourself as anyone else on here is just amusing.