Who will not buy GT6?

[1241Penguin]

To the rest of the haters. Let me explain it this way. I was a huge and i mean a huge rpg fan. The day i bought final fantasy 7 was the day i got hooked in rpgs like never before. Subsequently i played 8,9 and 10 with equal fervour.

When number 12 was released and i bought it i was struck on how mediocre it was. It was fair to say that it was a **** game and from then on i never touched another ff game.

But here's the main difference between you and me. I didnt log in to FFfan sites moaning and thrashing the game. I didnt complain non stop on how ripped off i felt or how mch i waited for it or how i hated wada for ****ing up final fantasy.

No i simply moved on and played other things. Perhaps you should do the same. Game is ****. Fair enough. Not every game is lovable to everyone else. But if you have a an emotional intelligence beyond a teenager then after a few grumbles you will pack off and move on.

You know what the world would be like without criticism, right? You know, Toyota still wouldn't be aware that their cars have sticky throttles, Subaru would still be using 4-speed automatic transmissions... you know where I'm going with this. We'd be still stuck in the past, because no improvements will be made because no problems have been brought up in the first place.

The thing with GT5 is that some problems, such as the engine sounds, have been a problem since GT1, and never have I seen any sort of effort to improve it.

I mean i am not a heavy user on gtplanet and i come in here occasionally to see any news or something new. But one thing you can count on is seeing the same folks with same user ids moaning and complaining. Bloody hell. Have you got something new to say for once? I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful or anything in that fashion but my word it's tiresome.

People often say that you project your mental state on to the internet especially on forums and messageboards. I hope that is not true for some folks on here and i sincerely mean that

Have you got something new to say for once? Rather than trying to convince others what you think even though your logic is severely flawed.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I dont know why anyone bothers to respond to yours. Complaining like a fisherwoman all day long on an internet message board about a 2 year old game surely has to tire you at some point? Or is it your life is empty when you switch off that computer of yours?




fanatic love? hardly. I spend £35 quid on this game and i got my money's worth. May be you did not. But i have. So i will buy the next installment regardless of what anyone thinks. And that will continue until the day PD disappoints me with a **** game.

But you and the rest of the negative nancies are welcome to buy something else. After all there are other alternatives out there. It's a simple matter of putting your money where your mouth is and moving on.



To the rest of the haters.

Oh, so we're haters now, even though some of us have been playing GT and own every game since the beginning. And even though some of us want to see GT become better. Stopped taking your post seriously after that.

 

[georgetigra]

gt6-7-8-9-10 for sure!

 

[CorvetteConquer]

gt6-7-8-9-10 for sure!

Hopefully a joke, but then again, there are some TRULY dedicated fans here.

Makes me want to vomit on myself.

 

[Terronium-12]

Hopefully a joke, but then again, there are some TRULY dedicated fans here.

Makes me want to vomit on myself.

And saying this was necessary how, exactly?

 

[CorvetteConquer]

And saying this was necessary how, exactly?

Don't worry. I cleaned it up already!

I admit, my comment was ludicrous and unnecessary. But it wasn't as ludicrous as a user stating that he/she would buy a game 5 installments from the current one!

Unnecessarily scary!

 

[Samus]

Oh, so we're haters now, even though some of us have been playing GT and own every game since the beginning. And even though some of us want to see GT become better. Stopped taking your post seriously after that.

I wouldn't say that, last time I told him I'd played since GT1 he flat out said I was lying, there was no way I could have been if I didn't like GT5, and I obviously don't like Gran Turismo at all.

 

[ItsHim]

You know what the world would be like without criticism, right? You know, Toyota still wouldn't be aware that their cars have sticky throttles,

After the investigation was finished it was found there was no proof whatsoever anything was wrong with the throttle of Toyotas.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5aca598a-a4d5-11df-8d8c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xebwGygy

That's what happens if a brand gets dragged in the dirt.

 

[thelvynau]

After the investigation was finished it was found there was no proof whatsoever anything was wrong with the throttle of Toyotas.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5aca598a-a4d5-11df-8d8c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xebwGygy

That's what happens if a brand gets dragged in the dirt.

I'm stunned you took the time to research that well done.

Edit: my apologies that came across as sarcastic I didn't mean for it to come across that way.

 

[windmill]

Not gonna buy it GT5 was the last one .
Why ?

Bad servers , connection problems , PD not willing to improve on that and Sony even worse they don't care about there clients . 👎 👎 👎

 

[darkpigraph]

I'm reasonably confident that GT6 will be a strong consolidation of GT5 content- and design-wise, while using the same engine. So i'm 90% certain i'll get it. Besides, even considering the many complaints, i still think GT5 is a fantastic game.

 

[runfast1]

Ps3 is old now, I'd buy gt6 if they had a pc version. But that will never happen! Ps3 sucks IMO! Not enough power

 

[TankAss95]

All that PD needs to do with GT6 is use the pre-existing model from GT5 and give us a layout that would use the content to the full potential. In any case, I'm 95% sure I'll get GT6. Maybe that sounds ridiculous to some and that's fine, but I just love Gran Turismo, and it's the strongest racing simulator on the PS3.

 

[Samus]

Ps3 is old now, I'd buy gt6 if they had a pc version. But that will never happen! Ps3 sucks IMO! Not enough power

 

[CSLACR]

After the investigation was finished it was found there was no proof whatsoever anything was wrong with the throttle of Toyotas.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5aca598a-a4d5-11df-8d8c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xebwGygy

That's what happens if a brand gets dragged in the dirt.

I'm stunned you took the time to research that well done.

Edit: my apologies that came across as sarcastic I didn't mean for it to come across that way.

I'm stunned he felt the need to defend Toyota over such a remark.
Where does that leave it?
Does he understand the post he read?
Or does he feel by posting this he has refuted that progress is made by recognizing shortcomings?
Or is it simply Toyota fanaticism that compelled him to post this?
Maybe it's just a simple correction (Of course how often do big names end up leaving "proof", so it's debatable and off-topic), but it could mean just so many things.

I don't have a clue.

 

[ItsHim]

I'm stunned he felt the need to defend Toyota over such a remark.
Where does that leave it?
Does he understand the post he read?
Or does he feel by posting this he has refuted that progress is made by recognizing shortcomings?
Or is it simply Toyota fanaticism that compelled him to post this?
Maybe it's just a simple correction (Of course how often do big names end up leaving "proof", so it's debatable and off-topic), but it could mean just so many things.

I don't have a clue.

1241Penguin made a blooper when he mentioned a sticky throttle problem as an example for improving things by customer feedback, while overlooking there was no problem in the first place.

There's a certain irony to this, now you mention it, as in fact sounds were tweaked in the recent GT5 update. So that part of the posting is wrong as well. Though it's of course open to debate if the recent tweak is an improvement or not, but it won't go there either.

Getting ones facts straight isn't always easy, but it's very helpful if one is trying to make a point.

 

[CSLACR]

1241Penguin made a blooper when he mentioned a sticky throttle problem as an example for improving things by customer feedback, while overlooking there was no problem in the first place.

There's a certain irony to this, now you mention it, as in fact sounds were tweaked in the recent GT5 update. So that part of the posting is wrong as well. Though it's of course open to debate if the recent tweak is an improvement or not, but it won't go there either.

Getting ones facts straight isn't always easy, but it's very helpful if one is trying to make a point.

You needed evidence to believe that customer feedback could improve something?

It's also still debatable whether there was a problem with the Toyotas or not, more than a single person complained of exactly the same thing from afar. But that's totally off-topic...

Which is why if you get the point you don't debate the examples.

If you do...

Where does that leave it?
Does he understand the post he read?
Or does he feel by posting this he has refuted that progress is made by recognizing shortcomings?
Or is it simply Toyota fanaticism that compelled him to post this?

One is left to guess if you're arguing the point or simply being trivial.

 

[PAPPACLART]

I have been playing GT5 from release day. It cost me £35. Probably the best £35 I have ever spent despite all the floors and inconsistencies with the game.

Yesterday I went out for a meal with my girlfriend. We spent around 50 euro. I could have made a better risotto, way too much oil and the rice was under cooked. The pasta I had was also undercooked and had literally only 2 bits of meat in it, and was over seasoned with pepper, which I did not even ask for.

Its very easy to spend more than the cost of GT5 and get very little enjoyment, longevity and value out of it if comparing with GT5 or any other game that you may enjoy.

If GT6 cost £100 retail, I would still buy it. From the nights "in" when I race the money I save rather then out is worth it alone.

 

[StGeorge]

Ps3 is old now, I'd buy gt6 if they had a pc version. But that will never happen! Ps3 sucks IMO! Not enough power

You'd be saying the same about your PC when technology advances again.

 

[1241Penguin]

1241Penguin made a blooper when he mentioned a sticky throttle problem as an example for improving things by customer feedback, while overlooking there was no problem in the first place.

My point doesn't change, now does it?

 

[ItsHim]

You needed evidence to believe that customer feedback could improve something?

It's also still debatable whether there was a problem with the Toyotas or not, more than a single person complained of exactly the same thing from afar. But that's totally off-topic...

Which is why if you get the point you don't debate the examples.

If you do...

One is left to guess if you're arguing the point or simply being trivial.

It would have been a much nicer discussion if you would have been prepared to accept Toyota being both a wrong and on second thoughts an ironic example.

Feel free to write a letter to the US road safety body and convince them their own investigation is wrong.

I will not endure more of your attitude. I do not appreciate you taking a pot shot at me when you run out of arguments. This is were it ends.

Penguin: You were wrong on both accounts, so if your consumer feedback is based on wrong facts, it's of no value whatsoever.

 

[StGeorge]

On February 8, 2011, the NHTSA, in collaboration with NASA, released its findings into the investigation on the Toyota drive-by-wire throttle system. After a 10 month search, NASA and NHTSA scientists found no electronic defect in Toyota vehicles. Driver error or pedal misapplication was found responsible for most of the incidents. The report ended stating, "Our conclusion is Toyota's problems were mechanical, not electrical." This included sticking accelerator pedals, and pedals caught under floor mats.

Just to clear things up....

 

[CSLACR]

It would have been a much nicer discussion if you would have been prepared to accept Toyota being both a wrong and on second thoughts an ironic example.

Feel free to write a letter to the US road safety body and convince them their own investigation is wrong.

I will not endure more of your attitude. I do not appreciate you taking a pot shot at me when you run out of arguments. This is were it ends.

Penguin: You were wrong on both accounts, so if your consumer feedback is based on wrong facts, it's of no value whatsoever.

Our conclusion is Toyota's problems were mechanical, not electrical.

That sure sounds like a problem. It's not necessarily the throttle itself, although the words here don't even fully determine that. Just that it was not an electrical problem.

But as I've said in every post since you brought this up, it's off-topic.

Penguin: You were wrong on both accounts, so if your consumer feedback is based on wrong facts, it's of no value whatsoever.

Talk about attitude.

So you are debating that "customer feedback" (a term you injected for what was actually used) can help improve things?

 

[1241Penguin]

Penguin: You were wrong on both accounts, so if your consumer feedback is based on wrong facts, it's of no value whatsoever.

My original point was that without criticism, we wouldn't be getting anywhere too soon. According to you, my Toyota example was false, so never mind that.

If you're trying to argue that we don't need people to criticize the game, then go right ahead...

 

[WedgeX]

Gran Turismo is like Star Trek ... the odd numbers suck

can't believe people really liked GT3 personally.... I missed the whole ps2 era owning a PC instead...but I went back and played them for nostalgia .... but out of order, so I ended up playing GT4 first.... and then out of order GT3 ... wow, what a gap ....GT4 drove like the first proper Sim on consoles.... then GT3 felt like I was playing Ridge Racer by contrast.... the road surface was still noticeably polygonal, graphics really bad, not to mention GT3 had utterly awful force feedback and didn't feel worth playing with a wheel compaired to GT4 which felt great! ... night and day...

I liked gran turismo 1 as the exception... not a huge gap between 1 and 2 ...but huge between 3 and 4 ... and I honestly believe if you rate GT4 and 5 strictly on the single player elements GT4 is the better game.... graphics aside there is just way more to keep you busy and challenged in GT4 than 5 ....

so by this pattern GT6 could be amazing

 

[ch3ng]

My original point was that without criticism, we wouldn't be getting anywhere too soon.

True Story.

 

[mjm23race]

There has been plenty of people criticizing each other and GT. I somehow doubt any of that will translate to us getting a better game.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

There has been plenty of people criticizing each other and GT. I somehow doubt any of that will translate to us getting a better game.

Each other, by that I guess you mean us "critical fans" toward the more dogmatic type fans. What does that criticizing have to do with GT and it being better, the same or worse? Nothing! If PD came on here, I doubt they'd care about our back and forth banter. The criticizing that has been very constructive here toward GT will probably help improve it, but I don't see how we will know.

Even if GT6 is improved and is a great game, fans (as yourself) will deny that the constructive GT Fans were the reason for such changes. So really it all comes down to many people just wanting to have it their way for argumentive sake over a video game.

 

[maxpontiac]

I will day one, as I have with all Gran Turismo games.

 

[CSLACR]

There has been plenty of people criticizing each other and GT. I somehow doubt any of that will translate to us getting a better game.

It already has.

There's a list of updates, and the list here on GTPlanet of most wanted updates/patches. Many are straight from that list.
Many things that have been complained about have come to life, or been fixed. If we were all sitting here quietly, talking about how perfect GT5 is, we wouldn't have 90% of it. Common sense, really.