Why people hate 4WD drifter?

[Basiba Davia]

I hate awd drifters because most of them think there all ken block do gymkhana. If you want to do gymkhana buy dirt3.
The reason why most people hate awd drifters is that they have all 4 wheels spinning. and when they say there torgue distrubuter is 10 - 90 its changed to a rwd when it still has power going to the front.

In real life. Do you ever see comps where people are drifting awd.... No. They only drift rwd. If you dont know go watch formula drift or d1gp japan on youtube.

sorry bud ken block no see her the Alm brothers are the thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PzcIpoWjzE

and a old hero her in norway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t5eGARRP9E


and more alm older video at the end of the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwlypJv0sQ&feature=related

 

[Bluntified]

sorry bud ken block no see her the Alm brothers are the thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PzcIpoWjzE

and a old hero her in norway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t5eGARRP9E


and more alm older video at the end of the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwlypJv0sQ&feature=related

Com'on, you can't win with that. You're proving RWD drifters right lol. Look at the second vid, he almost ran off the track. In the third vid, he did the same thing plus only connected 2 out of 4 corners. He would have spun out after the first corner but the AWD helped him outta that one lol.

Love the smoke though when the RWD drifters came on, on the third vid.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Com'on, you can't win with that. You're proving RWD drifters right lol. Look at the second vid, he almost ran off the track. In the third vid, he did the same thing plus only connected 2 out of 4 corners. He would have spun out after the first corner but the AWD helped him outta that one lol.

Love the smoke though when the RWD drifters came on, on the third vid.

Yeah i loved that part too.... But did you see on the 3rd video when he was drifting that audi that the AWD was actually making the car
1. Straightening out
2. No angle
3. And truly it was slower

Those videos shows a lot of what we RWD drifters are talking about... In the first video that car was going so fast to stay sideways... And in that third video showed that the audi had a lot of trouble trying to maintain the drift on slower tracks.. Which yes that does prove what the RWD drifters are saying... The AWD drifters have to go faster to maintain a drift which makes it almost impossible to tandem with them

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Lets highlight this one:

1. I really enjoined the Supra at the begining of the video.
2. Got a litle distubed with so many smoke between that couple in the 2nd session.
3. And then comes a rich 🤬 awd to mess up everything.

Then, my reaction was like:

 

[Stavingo]

^^ Holy crap new facepalm meme for whole of GT5 drifting community 👍

But the video does prove RWD drifters points right though.

 

[maveric25]

The AWD damaged the video.

 

[MSTER232]

Ha that's the best "facepalm" picture I've seen yet! But technically, isn't that a "glasshood"? LOL !!

 

[Davidies]

Lets highlight this one:

1. I really enjoined the Supra at the begining of the video.
2. Got a litle distubed with so many smoke between that couple in the 2nd session.
3. And then comes a rich 🤬 awd to mess up everything.

Then, my reaction was like:

Thats no facepalm! Thats the ''Hoodpalm'' feature in the new cars. Available as extra for only 100$!

 

[MSTER232]

Thats no facepalm! Thats the ''Hoodpalm'' feature in the new cars. Available as extra for only 100$!

!

 

[Downhill Dino]

Why does it matter how fast he goes? It's all for show anyways.

 

[Bluntified]

Why does it matter how fast he goes? It's all for show anyways.

It doesn't but a lot, if not most, people drift AWD cars, and cars with sport tires for that matter, for speed. My opinion, quality over speed.

A RWD is slower off the line than an AWD in most cases but looks and feels way nicer drifting.

 

[Megamarcx84]

I'm beginning to think these Alm brothers are scared of doing a proper rwd conversion

Seriously though, longitudinally mounted engine, capacity for major hp, and no need to create a rear end because there's already a driveshaft headed that way. What more can you ask for for a rwd conversion? there's guys out there that dont bother rotating the engine in their evo that make it rwd..Team Orange and the Subaru need to be acquainted w/ a Team Grey and some proper rwd Audis

 

[Basiba Davia]

sorry but not mistake me im not say what is better than the other. some one like the other thing, im not a awd drifter in real life I own 3 cars and al of them got rwd. and i drift vith two of them,
im drifting because i just love the fealing i get by go sideways.
im not competative. because i see drifting as a fun thing to do.
but I must really say se awd drifters that really do it good is not wrong and dont think it is easy.
drift vith rwd is something every one can learn.

for me drifting is cool even by awd and rwd.
as long its som nice combos som little variasjons.
for me awd drifters in the game does not boddring me more then thos who just crash in to you and just keep on doing it.
becaus think about them that just ar newbeginners they also want to learn so let them do that becaus if you got skills you can just drift around them
and se it as a challenge and let them do their trainin g

 

[UnionStrike]

The xenophobia against awd cars here is amusing, awd or rwd, it's just ballet with cars.

 

[Bobalob]

The xenophobia against awd cars here is amusing, awd or rwd, it's just ballet with cars.

Hmmn race drivers say that.

They use the grip upto the point of lost traction, we use it up to that point and beyond

 

[OtakuTaikun]

I drift AWD a lot, and i honestly don't feel like it's much faster. Granted, i try to set it up to handle like a more stable FR, but when drifting for show, it feels just as slow as my IS-F, S2000, and even slower than my Levin and my Spirit R FD. Feel like VCD needs to be set at at least 85/15.

And just for the sake of my dignity, AWD drift and Ken Block do not correlate in my head... ugh ken block.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Hmmn race drivers say that.

They use the grip upto the point of lost traction, we use it up to that point and beyond

Generalizing to much. They, if not we, can do the same.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

The xenophobia against awd cars here is amusing, awd or rwd, it's just ballet with cars.

Then:

Hmmn race drivers say that.

They use the grip upto the point of lost traction, we use it up to that point and beyond

And then:

Generalizing to much. They, if not we, can do the same.

My statement is:
Bobalob is right. EliteDreamer, if he is defending that grip racers also enjoy drifts, hes talking about the exception. In general, grip racers don´t "waste" their time unsharping their grip skills putting FR cars in sideways, because many of them don´t know how to do it, specialy when they are behind a real wheel (we are talking about GT5, aren´t we?).

Its funny because, yesterday i was in ACR (Auto Club Revolution) forums and i opened a thread asking if that game was fine for drifting. That was enough to start a clash between people how enjoy to drift and grip racers that want to keep that game "pure" (in their vision).

To be more fair, i even took a look at UnionStrike´s photo thread, just to see what material he produced for drifting. And the closest was some few pics of a lancer skidding with small angle in the Eiger hairpins. Im not saying that he is wrong, but same as i dont go to a racing thread complain about race, he shouldn´t come here underpraise the drifting as a whole.

I´m not even saying that compare ballet to drifting is underpraise, because i respect even ballet (or freestep, or breakdancing, whatever...). Same as i like MMA but i like to see Capoeira, same as i enjoy to see skates in a vertical half pipe, but i prefer to see tricks in "street" style. I guess that even bizarre, you will understand those comparassions.

But no matter if its MMA, Capoeira, Ballet, Vertical Skate, Street skate....... who pratice any of these things with passion, respect who takes it seriously. Drift can be taken as fun and relaxing, or hasted and competitive, but always keeping the respect for the pratice.

So, UnionStrike... if you don´t understand why the drifting forum is a serious place and points AWD as "drivetrain xenophobia", maybe you should look at yourself and analise your own xenophobia against the drifting as a whole.

 

[JBanton]

Maybe RWD people hate AWD guys because their RWDs aren't accepted in WRC?

I don't know, I'm just putting it out there.

 

[MSTER232]

Maybe RWD people hate AWD guys because their RWDs aren't accepted in WRC?

I don't know, I'm just putting it out there.

I don't understand the relevance of WRC to drifting...?

 

[Stavingo]

Maybe RWD people hate AWD guys because their RWDs aren't accepted in WRC?

I don't know, I'm just putting it out there.

Facepalm because people used to race RWD's in WRC.

Rally driving is completely different from drifting as well by the way, we lose grip intentionally while you guys try and drive through a stage as fast as possible, sometimes you lose grip on a corner and you have to drift through it then so be it.

I don't understand the relevance of WRC to drifting...?

My thoughts exactly.

 

[MSTER232]

Maybe RWD people hate AWD guys because their RWDs aren't accepted in WRC?

I don't know, I'm just putting it out there.

Double facepalm:

 

[JBanton]

I don't understand the relevance of WRC to drifting...?

Facepalm because people used to race RWD's in WRC.

Rally driving is completely different from drifting as well by the way, we lose grip intentionally while you guys try and drive through a stage as fast as possible, sometimes you lose grip on a corner and you have to drift through it then so be it.



My thoughts exactly.

Double facepalm:

Come on, I said I didn't know

 

[MSTER232]

Come on, I said I didn't know

Fair enough that you was giving your own opinion, but when giving your opinion, please make it relevant to the thread. World Rally Championship has nothing to do with drifting...

 

[JBanton]

On topic, the answer is simply that some people may just class AWD drifters as "noobs", just like how many people class Red Bull X-cars and the Bugatti Veyron as "noob cars"

So far as I know FR cars, are the "truest" drifters because there is no weight on the powered wheels, therefore more skill is required to drift it.

Personally, if it intentionally moves sideways under control I have no problem with it. If people don't like something, that's just the way it is, it's true with everything; not everybody will like it. It's been that way since dinosaur times

 

[Stavingo]

Not really classed by cars but most known for their attitudes but yeah.

 

[MSTER232]

So far as I know FR cars, are the "truest" drifters because there is no weight on the powered wheels, therefore more skill is required to drift it.

Meh? I don't care where their engine is placed.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Meh? I don't care where their engine is placed.

That is another discussion, mate.

 

[MSTER232]

That is another discussion, mate.

Note that it was in response to JBanton's message, where he claims that cars that are rear-wheel drive with the engine placed at the front are the "truest" drifters.

 

[JBanton]

Note that it was in response to JBanton's message, where he claims that cars that are rear-wheel drive with the engine placed at the front are the "truest" drifters.

"Claim"? You mean quote