Why people hate 4WD drifter?

[Domjh1992]

Hi, I play Gt5 since almost one week and begins to drift a couple days ago. I have to admit that there is a real problem in this comunity. I come from forza, and I am a good forza drifter, most people drift rwd in forza, some drift awd, but nobody care about that, why in gt5 people HATE, they dont only dont like, they HATE 4wd drifter, why??? Is it easier?? I know its not really real life to drift awd car, but why people are so upset about that???

It works both ways to be honest, 4wd "drifters" always make silly comments/Digs towards rwd drifters and vise versa. people will always retaliate/stick up for their beliefs.

at the end of the day "drift" how you want, but if rules are set out in lobbies/competitions don't expect them to change because you like to power slide in your 4wd car with racing tyres at 130mph.

Rwd drifters are looking for realism, more like simulation to make it more enjoyable for them, rather than just using something that can potentially make it easier. each player will be looking for different things in gt5: simulation/fun/community

 

[Lock2Lock]

Yo maverick... Just forget about it homie... We have all worded it many ways... No one is listening to the whole picture probably explains people quoting half of what people actually posted and just focusing on one part of it... This thread is still not on topic at all... "why awd drifters are hated" not "what drive-train you prefer".... This thread has had more up and down emotions than a teenage girl going through a first breakup (my own twilight joke hoped you liked it)... But anyway I'm out

 

[maveric25]

Yo maverick... Just forget about it homie... We have all worded it many ways... No one is listening to the whole picture probably explains people quoting half of what people actually posted and just focusing on one part of it... This thread is still not on topic at all... "why awd drifters are hated" not "what drive-train you prefer".... This thread has had more up and down emotions than a teenage girl going through a first breakup (my own twilight joke hoped you liked it)... But anyway I'm out

Yeah this is a lost cause. And no twilight jokes please.

 

[JBanton]

I'm cool with pushing a 10/90 Impreza '07 with CS tyres sideways into a corner, I do it myself every now and then

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

GT5 should have let us 0/100 torque split, just like in real, R32 GTR can be set to RWD only just by removing a fuse ... while other 4WD like evos, wrxs can be converted to RWD, then there won't be these so called AWD hater ...

 

[Team THRT Drift]

GT5 should have let us 0/100 torque split, just like in real, R32 GTR can be set to RWD only just by removing a fuse ... while other 4WD like evos, wrxs can be converted to RWD, then there won't be these so called AWD hater ...

I know what u mean..

U can still drift with the skyline. Set the torque dif. 10/90, set the LSD for the back 45,55,30, and the front 5,5,25. I sometimes drift with my 2001 Skyline R32 Pace car with the flashing lights and everything.

 

[Max911]

I don't like 4wd drifting nor fwd drifting, but saying its not drifting is kind of an ignorant statement people make. It's all drifting but rwd drifting is back to basics.

In my own opinion I think rwd drifting is best because it requires the most time to learn and is traditional. I like traditional.

Ken Block does it. And he's badass.

 

[Stavingo]

Ken Block does it. And he's badass.

Here we go again...

 

[maveric25]

Here we go again...

It's a waste of time dude, just ignore them.

 

[bob876]

When you drift a person using 4wd the experience is not the same as all rwd drifting because entry speeds and angles are different for the different drivtrains. This angers some people and they need to blame others, so naturally the people that are different get the blame.. To solve this problem just try to group up with like drivetrains. I personally can have fun with any restriction. I just hate when people act a fool and ruin everybody else's fun, you know the type of guy.

 

[MSTER232]

GT5 should have let us 0/100 torque split, just like in real, R32 GTR can be set to RWD only just by removing a fuse ... while other 4WD like evos, wrxs can be converted to RWD, then there won't be these so called AWD hater ...

You might be onto something here. Do 4WD drifters drift 4WD cars because they wished they were RWD or because it's much "easier"?

 

[Stavingo]

You might be onto something here. Do 4WD drifters drift 4WD cars because they wished they were RWD or because it's much "easier"?

Either/or actually.

 

[Bobalob]

for the love of god, drifting means front wheels GRIP rear wheels SLIDE. End of. some randomers wikipedia article and a million ignorant people do not change this fact.

Just because to the uninvolved they both look the same it sure as **** doesn't make it the same, I could bust into peoples pool/darts/football/tennis competitions and start renaming all of thier moves and equipment, I just need a million energy drink consumers to follow me like blind sheep and BINGO any element of a sport can be called anything you like, just depends on how ignorant you are to the actual subject.

Yes any car can slide but not every car can drift.

 

[MSTER232]

Either/or actually.

My point is, if people drift 4WD Skylines because they wish they were RWD then having a option to swap the drivetrain in GT Auto / Tuning Shop would be nice. If they drift because it's easier then there's nothing we can do really...

 

[Max911]

It's a waste of time dude, just ignore them.

Wow, no sense of humour around here. Sad.

 

[Powellx235]

Wow, no sense of humour around here. Sad.

Doesn't seem any different with you...

I noticed that anybody with 4wd/ff "drifting" hasn't mentioned what goes on in real world drifting, so that kinda shows they have no interest in proper drifting and how they do it.

 

[Downhill Dino]

You can have a complete drift fanatic drift 4WD and FF cars. Don't generalize like that.

You might be onto something here. Do 4WD drifters drift 4WD cars because they wished they were RWD or because it's much "easier"?

This makes me wonder. What if I joined a room and drifted an R32 GTS-T/GTS-R? Also I find rear wheel drive drifting easy and four wheel drive drifting hard. Strange stuff.

for the love of god, drifting means front wheels GRIP rear wheels SLIDE. End of. some randomers wikipedia article and a million ignorant people do not change this fact.

And if I can actually do just the sort of thing with a 4WD car? Now what?

 

[Bobalob]

You can have a complete drift fanatic drift 4WD and FF cars. Don't generalize like that.

This makes me wonder. What if I joined a room and drifted an R32 GTS-T/GTS-R? Also I find rear wheel drive drifting easy and four wheel drive drifting hard. Strange stuff.

And if I can actually do just the sort of thing with a 4WD car? Now what?

You can't slide 4wd with the front gripping.

I'm not going to go into the ins and outs of how different the steering inputs are between the two drivetrains, although throttle control is similar.

I really don't mind what you do and I DO enjoy sliding 4wd. Just don't tell me your doing the same thing as rwd because, your not.

 

[Downhill Dino]

You can't slide 4wd with the front gripping.

Then how do RWD cars drift? You even said this:

for the love of god, drifting means front wheels GRIP rear wheels SLIDE. End of. some randomers wikipedia article and a million ignorant people do not change this fact.

Unless you're making a typo. There is always the 10/90 and some LSD settings option. Practically the same thing.

Oh and by the way, under certain terms, we are in danger of losing some things. Click here. However I'm not exactly sure if we are breaking it.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

You might be onto something here. Do 4WD drifters drift 4WD cars because they wished they were RWD or because it's much "easier"?

It's all down to preferences for me, I have driven R32 GTR in it's original ATTESA mode, then for some fun, took the fuse out, enjoy RWD GTR with that RB26 power, believe me it's totally different animal with almost instant power over in every low speed corner exit.

A normal ATTESA enabled R32 GTR IRL can be drifted, sort of, not big angle sideways, just mild drift, but it took a real skill to do it - especially the non Vspec version, there's an aftermarket torque split controller for GTR in real life and they can be set up to 0/100 for a real RWD, why can't we have it in GT5 ...

I believe there's no such thing as "easier" car to drift, even if it has 4wd drivetrain with 10/90 torque split, try to drive one in real life, R32-34 GTR can have it's ATTESA system modified, try to drift it, bet it won't be easy ...maybe in game ...

 

[Davidies]

Ya sure can, this is the shelter for those who are indifferent to choice of drivetrain, lot of room, nice music, and a nice clear view of the battlefield.

I'll join then.

 

[spikeyhairdude]

I hate awd drifters because most of them think there all ken block do gymkhana. If you want to do gymkhana buy dirt3.
The reason why most people hate awd drifters is that they have all 4 wheels spinning. and when they say there torgue distrubuter is 10 - 90 its changed to a rwd when it still has power going to the front.

In real life. Do you ever see comps where people are drifting awd.... No. They only drift rwd. If you dont know go watch formula drift or d1gp japan on youtube.

 

[Bluntified]

I am personally starting to HATE AWD drifters. When I'm in a room drifting with other RWD cars, some noob in a AWD car has to come and screw up the flow causing all kinds of chaos. That's not the worst part, the worst is when they start pulling away with a grin on their face as if they're better than you or something. Me and my buddies do perfect lines in Tsukuba, some guy in a AWD comes, takes two corners, and flies away. Where's the competition in that?

In my opinion drive what you want but if you're driving AWD, don't expect to drive with someone driving RWD. I've seen 2 people online so far that can actually "drift" properly and maintain a tandem with other RWD cars. The reason why these guys are comparable is that they maintain their speed and keep the competition.

 

[maveric25]

The main problem with them (most of them) is that they don't know how to tune it to make it close to RWD. Someone even posted a "drift tune" on the Public Drift Setting Depot thread for a Mitsubish 3000GT with 50/50 torque split & stock LSD.

 

[MSTER232]

The main problem with them (most of them) is that they don't know how to tune it to make it close to RWD. Someone even posted a "drift tune" on the Public Drift Setting Depot thread for a Mitsubish 3000GT with 50/50 torque split & stock LSD.

I agree, although I think it deserves a much more epic facepalm:

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[Downhill Dino]

In real life. Do you ever see comps where people are drifting awd.... No. They only drift rwd. If you dont know go watch formula drift or d1gp japan on youtube.

That would be because it's easier to maintain a long drift. You always have the issue of the car backfiring on you in an AWD, unless you've tuned it correctly.

 

[daveydeez]

I am personally starting to HATE AWD drifters. When I'm in a room drifting with other RWD cars, some noob in a AWD car has to come and screw up the flow causing all kinds of chaos. That's not the worst part, the worst is when they start pulling away with a grin on their face as if they're better than you or something. Me and my buddies do perfect lines in Tsukuba, some guy in a AWD comes, takes two corners, and flies away. Where's the competition in that?

In my opinion drive what you want but if you're driving AWD, don't expect to drive with someone driving RWD. I've seen 2 people online so far that can actually "drift" properly and maintain a tandem with other RWD cars. The reason why these guys are comparable is that they maintain their speed and keep the competition.

this happened to me last night, some kid had a Subie spec C and was constantly hitting people, and messing up the flow of things. when i called him out, only then did he start to apologize to people he hit. when he inherited the room, he quickly went to change the track settings to allow all aids. luckily he left, but i'll admit its kinda hard to tandem if the guy in the AWD keeps gripping and taking off.

 

[Basiba Davia]

this happened to me last night, some kid had a Subie spec C and was constantly hitting people, and messing up the flow of things. when i called him out, only then did he start to apologize to people he hit. when he inherited the room, he quickly went to change the track settings to allow all aids. luckily he left, but i'll admit its kinda hard to tandem if the guy in the AWD keeps gripping and taking off.

I admitt i often drift awd cars, but i try to not hit other people.
because it hate to mess up for other, but im must add this
awd and rwd drifting is to different thing.

im from Norway and here the awd drifting is just a
thing we always have done.
im not better then the rwd drifters, even that i drive faster, but som times i just wana drift vith different cars all the time.

but I gone try not to destroy for othhers, vhen im drift awd car,

sorry for typing little bad english. im better talking.

 

[daveydeez]

I admitt i often drift awd cars, but i try to not hit other people.
because it hate to mess up for other, but im must add this
awd and rwd drifting is to different thing.

im from Norway and here the awd drifting is just a
thing we always have done.
im not better then the rwd drifters, even that i drive faster, but som times i just wana drift vith different cars all the time.

but I gone try not to destroy for othhers, vhen im drift awd car,

sorry for typing little bad english. im better talking.

to be clear, i dont have a problem with AWD, just as long as you know what you're doing, and that goes for all the platforms. the other night there was someone with a AWD and we had no problems.

 

[Basiba Davia]

to be clear, i dont have a problem with AWD, just as long as you know what you're doing, and that goes for all the platforms. the other night there was someone with a AWD and we had no problems.

this i agree but